Whedon liked this tweet.
Hmm.
"I love mankind...it's people I can't stand!!"
- Charles Schultz.
I think the key difference is that Snyder doesn't really puff himself up and feed into the hype of being some uber feminist creator. So there are less expectations and instances of being a hypocrite when the writing doesn't land. Joss created one truly great female main character (Buffy) and surrounded her with some great female supporting characters and villains she had complicated relationships with. But even her he sort of undermined by prioritizing the arc of her sexual assaulter over her in her own damn show. Plus all the female characters he fridged over in Angel. Or the original plans for Innara in Firefly.
If all this is legit, plus stuff like his treatment of Carpenter and the stuff his ex-wife said, he comes across as a worse person than Snyder. I've soured on Snyder as a creator, but none of the actors he's worked with have given any indication he's difficult to work with or does creepy things as a person.
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He may not have been a fan of the animated shows. Cyborg using that catchphrase comes from the cartoons, he didn’t say that in comics before the ‘03 cartoon. Fisher’s Cyborg strikes me as being more faithful to the more serious, broody, Cyborg from the original Marv Wolfman and George Pérez comics version than the more sassy, carefree, version from the Titans animated shows. If he really didn’t want to say it, then it’s likely because Fisher probably felt that catchphrase was simply not suitable and too corny for his more darker take on the character. Comic Victor doesn’t really say cornball catchphrases like The Thing’s, “It’s clobberin’ time!”
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"I love mankind...it's people I can't stand!!"
- Charles Schultz.
Fisher’s Cyborg has John's all over it.
I'm seeing rumors on SHH! that Jeremy Irons told Whedon his dialogue was fucking stupid and went off to his trailer to re-write his lines himself.
I'm not confident it's true, but I hope it is because Scar telling Joss he sucks is a terrific mental image.
He did with Sucker Punch.
Yup.So there are less expectations and instances of being a hypocrite when the writing doesn't land. Joss created one truly great female main character (Buffy) and surrounded her with some great female supporting characters and villains she had complicated relationships with. But even her he sort of undermined by prioritizing the arc of her sexual assaulter over her in her own damn show. Plus all the female characters he fridged over in Angel. Or the original plans for Innara in Firefly.
Years ago I remember there as a beef with a stunt choreography on Buffy and an allegation was that Whedon somehow hacked staff emails and reading them, but nothing came of it. How Charisma's pregnancy was responded to was childish and stupid, I lost respect for Whedon over that. The thing is that just because something hasn't come up with Snyder doesn't mean it won't, maybe he's a saint in the work place or it just hasn't been his turn. Everyone thought Whedon was fine until he wasn't.If all this is legit, plus stuff like his treatment of Carpenter and the stuff his ex-wife said, he comes across as a worse person than Snyder. I've soured on Snyder as a creator, but none of the actors he's worked with have given any indication he's difficult to work with or does creepy things as a person.