DC/WB Films/Worlds (No Spoilers)

[Pinsir]

Animated movies have been destroyed in the post pandemic box office, like Disney and Pixar animation studios are basically on fire at this point. Yeah, Minions is making bank, but that's been the exception. Also, super hero animated movies have never performed that well, Spiderverse made 200 million less than the worst performing live-action Spiderman movie. The movie costs 90 mill to make, its not that big of a hole to overcome.

Calling this a W for me. I said DC Super Pets will probably make double its budget (not exactly, but that is what I meant) and it has. Didn't even predict the collapse of the box office in September either. Also, this isn't me saying this, but analytic companies are predicting Black Adam is gonna have 300+ mill domestic box office...

[Robotman]

TL;DR Despite saying he wants a Feige, Zaslav doesn’t intend to give up much power. He’s still going to be the one deciding what gets greenlighted or not, and the new DC head is going to be stuck trying to deal with Zaslav’s demands as well as the demands of the creatives. For all intents and purposes, Zaslav is the new DC head.

He’s not going to give anyone a lot of freedom because the company is still in massive debt thanks to the insane AT&T merger. When a studio is in such a horrible position they don’t really have the luxury of experimentation and risk taking.

If a person is in debt and they hire a financial advisor, the advisor is probably not gonna say “go off and do whatever you want.”

[Holt]

Sounds like the Batgirl controversy continues to be an issue. That really did send shockwaves throughout the industry in a wave Zaslav didn't seem to consider.

[manwhohaseverything]

There's a rumor the Black Canary film will feature a martial arts tournament. http://https://twitter.com/LookUponT...r9euBqGlUyYqqw

Green Arrow will appear initially as an enemy, although he and Dinah are on a similar mission. https://twitter.com/LookUponTheSta/s...U8N4_U3qA&s=19

Not sure what the credibility of whoever this is but I've seen other sources post about it.

Now this i am excited for..A martial arts tournament.

[Rac7d*]

Sounds like the Batgirl controversy continues to be an issue. That really did send shockwaves throughout the industry in a wave Zaslav didn't seem to consider.

The general public will let his cartoons slaughter slide but a female POC led superhero film. Marvel has not even yet done that. He should have upgraded the film to be theaters worthy. This has happened before but not in the age of social media. It will go down in infamy with Zazlav name attached to being the monster.

[John Venus]

If tv shows are what's in Zaslav's wheelhouse them maybe that's what DC should focus on. I always felt DC characters worked better in serialized format than blockbuster ones. If something works, then take it to the movies. Not everything needs to be a billion dollar box office. Start small and work your way up.

[John Venus]

Also, I doubt Fiege had latitude from the start. He was only promoted to Chief *after* the success of the first Iron Man plus IM, Dr Strange and other IP's were up for collateral so if the first IM had failed, Marvel wouldn't own those characters anymore. Fiege was also said to be in talks to move to DC around 2016 because of the frustration of working with Ike Perlmutter which eventually lead to Iger structuring Marvel Studios so Fiege answered to Iger directly. It's evident that his string of successes is what granted him more and more creative freedom over the years.

There is also the fact that Zaslav is expecting one guy to be in charge. By all indications, Fiege is only one facet of a team of producers working at Marvel Studios. There is also Victoria Alonso, Nate Moore, Louis D'Esposito, Stephen Broussad, Trin Tranh and a whole bunch of other people we don't see whose managing these projects from behind the scenes. There is also Johnathan Schwartz who selects screenwriters for projects and plays a large part in shaping whichever project he's a part of.

Zaslav needs to select a whole team of people for DC projects and spread out the responsibility instead of putting a **** ton of pressure on one guy.

[Vordan]

The general public will let his cartoons slaughter slide but a female POC led superhero film. Marvel has not even yet done that. He should have upgraded the film to be theaters worthy. This has happened before but not in the age of social media. It will go down in infamy with Zazlav name attached to being the monster.

Lol that’s not why it sent shockwaves. Bluntly, most people don’t care about that aspect at all, and the general public has already moved on. It sent shockwaves because usually in Hollywood you don’t scrap finished movies, even if the movie is total garbage. Don’t Worry Darling is trash but WB still put it out anyway. It’s all about nepotism in Hollywood, who you know, who you do favors for, the previous regime at WB let Clint Eastwood put out films that bombed because Eastwood had done some hits for them in the past and he never went over budget. Zaslav put an end to that, that kind of thinking where you let talent put out flops just as a favor is how the game is played, and he’s not playing it.

[Jokerz79]

Zaslav is a disaster for WB Hollywood is about relationships and stuff like Eastwood getting to make an occasional flop or Paramount keeping Robert Evans on contract with an office on the lot until 2019 even though he hadn't made a film since 2003 goes a long way in the Industry with building those relationships because it showed commitment to talent. WB use to be studio where lifelong relationships with talent like Actors and Directors led to great films now you have agents and managers telling talent not to sign with them because even if you make a film with them, they might get rid of it for a write off.

Speaking of said write offs to save 3 billion dollars Zaslav has devalued his company by 20 billion dollars with rumors now Comcast is seeing blood in the water and circling.

Discovery shareholders are claiming Zaslav knew Warner Media added AT&T subscriber numbers to HBOMAX subscriber numbers to make HBOMAX look more successful but kept quiet because he wanted the Discovery shareholders to vote for the merger. Thus, now Discovery shareholders are Sueing him.

Current Stock Prices for the major streaming services are as follows Netflix 235.44, Apple 138.20, Amazon 113, Disney (Owns Disney+ and Hulu) 94.33, Comcast (Owns Peacock) 29.33, ViacomCBS (Owns Paramount+) 21.54, and finally WBDiscovery which owns one of the most impressive libraries on Streaming is now 11.50.

So, Zaslav has ruined their relationships in the Industry with talent, devalued the company, gotten them involved in a class action lawsuit, and sent the stock in the gutter. Youtube Channel KnowledgeHusk recently did a video on the current state of WB and he said it best it's a Clown Car driving thru a Dumpster Fire.

[WebLurker]

Sounds like the Batgirl controversy continues to be an issue. That really did send shockwaves throughout the industry in a wave Zaslav didn't seem to consider.

Dunno, seems like the specific response to that died down fairly quickly (kinda sorry, since I was hoping that public opinion might sway them to back down). If anything, it seems like it's just one factor in the line of stuff that Zaslav has burned down, with the purge as a whole getting the most ire.

[Primal Slayer]

Zaslav is well versed in cheap reality tv and will likely try to focus Max originals around...like Gossip Girl/Pretty Little Liars and none powered DC characters.

The fact that Amazon has found huge success in The Boys and DC cant even get something similar off the ground for HBO/Max is...so WB.

[skyvolt2000]

Lol that’s not why it sent shockwaves. Bluntly, most people don’t care about that aspect at all, and the general public has already moved on. It sent shockwaves because usually in Hollywood you don’t scrap finished movies, even if the movie is total garbage. Don’t Worry Darling is trash but WB still put it out anyway. It’s all about nepotism in Hollywood, who you know, who you do favors for, the previous regime at WB let Clint Eastwood put out films that bombed because Eastwood had done some hits for them in the past and he never went over budget. Zaslav put an end to that, that kind of thinking where you let talent put out flops just as a favor is how the game is played, and he’s not playing it.

A few test audiences do NOT nor will they EVER speak for the general public.

It was still a finished movie and it is made worst it was a female POC lead movie.

Just because the general public is not going to levels Snyderverse Cult- does not mean it's a done issue.

For Hollywood the optics look bad and now you have to question and ask why do anything with the WB-especially if you are a POC or female lead project or company.

Nobody is going to care how many flops Eastwood put out for the WB. They are looking only at what was done with Batgirl.

Disney had tons of flops with white lead movies like John Carter yet it flopping did not stop Cap America while folks used Steel and Catwoman to prevent Black Panther and Cap Marvel from being made.

[Robotman]

Zaslav is well versed in cheap reality tv and will likely try to focus Max originals around...like Gossip Girl/Pretty Little Liars and none powered DC characters.

The fact that Amazon has found huge success in The Boys and DC cant even get something similar off the ground for HBO/Max is...so WB.

The fact that The Boys started off at DC makes it even crazier.

[Jackalope89]

The fact that The Boys started off at DC makes it even crazier.

And The Boys being an off-brand Justice League, while the real thing is well, yeah.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe the damn Mouse buys DC and merges it with Marvel. They have the money. And with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and other big names, Disney can market like no other.

[Frontier]

Zaslav is well versed in cheap reality tv and will likely try to focus Max originals around...like Gossip Girl/Pretty Little Liars and none powered DC characters.

The fact that Amazon has found huge success in The Boys and DC cant even get something similar off the ground for HBO/Max is...so WB.

Well, I'd say Harley Quinn's cartoon is pretty in-line with The Boys in some respects...Titans is basically The Boys, but bad.