DC/WB Films/Worlds (No Spoilers)

[Last Son of Krypton]

Wonder Gal and Batfleck stand-ins for Peacemaker. Apparently the latter and Cyborg were cut by WB.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaGn7YTrot9/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaKpbLvJskM/

Another newspaper from the Batgirl set misspell Luthor name, lol.

[skyvolt2000]

Never heard of it but that sounds lit

Do NOT feel bad about it.

The book came out in 1997 as Milestone's run was ending. It went 12 issues and never saw a trade.

It's one of those series that you never hear about until something like this happens.

Priest got the rights back when he started doing Deathstroke.

I lucked out and only need 3 issues to have the whole run. I think 2 of them MIGHT be at a Movie Trading post store by my school.

[Vordan]

Wonder Gal and Batfleck stand-ins for Peacemaker. Apparently the latter and Cyborg were cut by WB.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaGn7YTrot9/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaKpbLvJskM/

Another newspaper from the Batgirl set misspell Luthor name, lol.

So they cut Batman and Cyborg but let Superman stay? What the hell is going on over at WB? Are they still trying to get Cavill back, or at least leaving the door open for him to return?

[Holt]

Yes. Affleck has said in no uncertain terms he’s not interested in playing Batman anymore and we know he’s being replaced. Ray Fisher says he won’t play Cyborg again unless Walter Hamada is fired, which doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon. Cavill to my knowledge has not said he doesn’t wanna play Superman, and the lack of appearances seems to be money/contract dispute related more than a lack of interest on his part.

Also, of the three, Superman is the easiest to recast without issue. It’s clear they went with bringing back Keaton over recasting Batfleck because Pattinson is the running Batman they’re pushing going forward, and Fisher will raise holy hell on social media if they cast someone else as the cinematic Cyborg. But Superman? There’s no rebooted Superman movie series or any sort of racial controversy with Cavill.

Loving the cowl here.

[Frontier]

A part of me is tempted to think they also didn't want Batman among the Leaguers whom Peacemaker calls out, but that might be me being petty .

[manwhohaseverything]

But they've evolved from their early inspirations and become their own thing.

More and more I'm starting to realize how much the MCU represents the lack of proper accountability in comics and how much people are willing to accept Superhero protagonists getting away with it.

But modern incarnations of Superman are definitely leaning less and less on him as a government stooge, especially takes like Superman and Lois Clark.

I don't take a Frank Miller perspective on vigilante's personally. Even if it's not wholly legal I don't view them in the same way as the people they fight. They're better than that.

And I think that's a problem, personally.

It exists partially because of the code but it has still evolved into becoming a big part of their characters and identity.

Accountability is always touted with registration and blanket ban in both dc and marvel.I think accountability by media press is there in marvel(both mcu and comics..i mean,poor spidey).DC has none.But,i do believe the outlaw nature of these characters are crucial for them.They been trying to shove them into being a police force.Superman had publically professed to hate vigilantes(what a hypocrite).

My hero acedemia has a government sanctioned force named superheroes.It's structured different from dc and marvel.There is no secret identity.Heroes are ranked.Everything is commercialised and under government control.The only franchise that does it structurally well compared to dc or marvel.Keep in mind,vigilantes are there as well.It
is done well.It might be of your liking.(I prefer one piece version of outlaws fighting for what's right.sucker for zorro and hats)

I don't think that is problem.Absolutist rigidity is more of a problem for me.There are no objective standards to morality as of yet we can all agree on(entire world).Until it arrives,people need to let it go.People come from different backgrounds.from war,poverty,death and disease.So called "ideal heroes" would rather toute some half baked wisdom and turn a blind eye(quest for peace).That ain't ideal nor wise.

It exist precisely because of comics code.It is continues to exist because of stupid nostalgia and "children"(fans) screaming "my childhood is ruined".that is it.Keep in mind,i don't care if superman doesn't kill.What i can't stand is moral grandstanding and posturing of superiority because of morality.I firmly believe true morality is avoiding that.Morality shouldn't something we should be proud of.It is mere duty of us as individuals of society. stupid tall claims that the character can't back up or his audience don't want him to be tested for,makes it harder to enjoy.If you are going to say superman is an ideal for mankind.The objective good.The character would be put in position like zod situation.Point blank.

[Frontier]

Accountability is always touted with registration and blanket ban in both dc and marvel.I think accountability by media press is there in marvel(both mcu and comics..i mean,poor spidey).DC has none.But,i do believe the outlaw nature of these characters are crucial for them.They been trying to shove them into being a police force.Superman had publically professed to hate vigilantes(what a hypocrite).

I mean, Lois Lane exists in the DC Universe, so that's power of the press right there. But I wasn't talking about blanket registration but more the kind of stuff the protagonists get away with without being addressed in-depth. I felt this a lot in the recent Hawkeye show when it came to the stuff the Hawkeye's were doing and how they handled the fallout of Clint as Ronin.

I think it comes down to a matter of degrees and execution.

My hero acedemia has a government sanctioned force named superheroes.It's structured different from dc and marvel.There is no secret identity.Heroes are ranked.Everything is commercialised and under government control.The only franchise that does it structurally well compared to dc or marvel.Keep in mind,vigilantes are there as well.It
is done well.It might be of your liking.(I prefer one piece version of outlaws fighting for what's right.sucker for zorro and hats)

I'm always kind of confused about secret identities in MHA because it seems like some heroes operate incognito without people necesarilly knowing who they are or their civilian identities, although I guess the government is aware of them because they have to go to UA or school with their Quirks.

I know Vigilante's exist because I read the manga () but I think they operate in a similar way to DC/Marvel vigilante's as well.

I don't think that is problem.Absolutist rigidity is more of a problem for me.There are no objective standards to morality as of yet we can all agree on(entire world).Until it arrives,people need to let it go.People come from different backgrounds.from war,poverty,death and disease.So called "ideal heroes" would rather toute some half baked wisdom and turn a blind eye(quest for peace).That ain't ideal nor wise.

I think there are some baseline stuff people can generally agree is wrong and not something that should be done under any circumstance.

It exist precisely because of comics code.It is continues to exist because of stupid nostalgia and "children"(fans) screaming "my childhood is ruined".that is it.Keep in mind,i don't care if superman doesn't kill.What i can't stand is moral grandstanding and posturing of superiority because of morality.I firmly believe true morality is avoiding that.Morality shouldn't something we should be proud of.It is mere duty of us as individuals of society. stupid tall claims that the character can't back up or his audience don't want him to be tested for,makes it harder to enjoy.If you are going to say superman is an ideal for mankind.The objective good.The character would be put in position like zod situation.Point blank.

It's been a long time and a lot of adult writers have written the characters that way with a strict moral code. Characters back that up with their actions and by being true to who they are.

[Holt]

Superman’s stand-in.

[Last Son of Krypton]

So they cut Batman and Cyborg but let Superman stay? What the hell is going on over at WB? Are they still trying to get Cavill back, or at least leaving the door open for him to return?

Maybe he is already back? and will cameo in The Flash with his own full face... but, this time, bodyless... for the sake of keeping the meme going. 😜

Superman’s stand-in.

I thought Superman was CGI in the Peacemaker finale. 💀

I guess the Cyborg stand-in is going to be the next one posting his selfie... in a mo-cap suit. 🙃

[Frontier]

Superman’s stand-in.

He actually looks like he could play the role himself.

[Agent Z]

David Brenner, editor of BvS and the Snyder Cut, has passed away.

https://deadline.com/2022/02/david-b...or-1234956799/

[Frontier]

RIP Mr. Brenner.

[Robotman]

Wonder Gal and Batfleck stand-ins for Peacemaker. Apparently the latter and Cyborg were cut by WB.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaGn7YTrot9/


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaKpbLvJskM/

Another newspaper from the Batgirl set misspell Luthor name, lol.

Maybe WB didn’t want to have any promotion for Batfleck when they have Batinson arriving next month and Keaton taking over as the Batman of their connected movieverse.

Zero surprise that they didn’t want to have connections to Ray Fisher.

[Castling]

This view of DC and Marvel is extremely outdated, if it ever existed at all. It only applies if you're looking at the big 7 and even then it isn't accurate. Wonder Woman and Aquaman haven't had rules against killing in decades just for example

Do Wonder Woman and Aquaman run around killing humans, though? Or are they out there killing monsters?
In ZSJL, Diana blowing out people's heads against the wall was ridiculous, especially since we've seen her deal with criminals rather easily in WW84 with ZERO casualties. And she wasn't traumatizing children, either. She connected with them.

[The Kid]

Don't really want to comment too much on the whole killing debate but I have to say this is one of my favorite scenes in any superhero movie ever. You can feel the pure rage from Stark here. Another great scene is when he first breaks out of prison and murks everyone trying to stop him. Iron Man having a no-kill rule never made sense to me even in the comics and the MCU version feels more true to what a guy like Stark would be then early 616 who often felt constrained by comic book tropes and codes

For DC characters, I'm fine with them having bodies as long as it isn't done brutally. Burton and Nolan Bruce both killed but it was always never portrayed in a way that made it stand out. In the end, kids are used to action heroes killing the villains so as long as it isn't weirdly violent (Batman in BvS), I don't mind that much. I prefer Batman and Superman to not kill though especially when there are other ways