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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
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    This just sounds bad. So the Flash movies are just the 'Flash/Batman: Power Hour'? So, Batfleck just disappears along with Cavill Man and Keaton and Sasha fills in for them? Not as much of a 'continuity rewrite' as I was expecting. Still, even with Flash having a multi season show the fact that they still think the movie needs Batman in it is disheartening. Its one thing for Batman to appear in one Flash movie but not in multiple ones.

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    It's a rewrite. Continuity wise, Keaton is presented as a sort of continuation of Batfleck, like a weird recast. What Batfleck was doing at the beginning of the movie (try to help Barry to get his dad out of jail) get a pay off with BatKeaton at the end, like they were the same character the whole time. Keaton arrives driving the same Batfleck's car he had at the beginning of the movie. I think it's the same car from BvS.

    Batgirl establish BatKeaton was the DCEU BM all along in the intro scene, it's a flashback with young Barbara, like a decade in the past, and her dad (Simmons) helps BatKeaton with criminals. As the director said they mix Snyder's and Burton's continuities.

    Batfleck is somehow lost elsewhere and need Barry's help to be rescued. From what was described he does appear to be using Lex's tech to communicating with Barry. There's the Lexcorp logo behind him. Maybe Jesse Eisenberg will join him, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I love that the film continuity is going to be just as much a continuity clusterfuck as the comics.
    General audience will get an headache like us DC readers, lol. Welcome to the club!
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    Sounds like the Flash won't be the course correction they planned. And we are wasting Keaton's Bruce for Batgirl instead of Batman Beyond. It really isn't more apparent how far ahead Marvel Studios is than right now. Marvel announces movies through 2025 and DC can't even decide who's playing Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comicstar100 View Post
    Sounds like the Flash won't be the course correction they planned. And we are wasting Keaton's Bruce for Batgirl instead of Batman Beyond. It really isn't more apparent how far ahead Marvel Studios is than right now. Marvel announces movies through 2025 and DC can't even decide who's playing Batman.
    Beside switching BM actors and introducing Supergirl, the movie does feel a standalone with little impact to the rest of the DCEU. Majority of the film is set in an alternate fucked up timeline that get wiped out at the end (like the flashpoint comic). The Supergirl and Batman (Keaton) that are shown for the majority of the movie aren't the same characters (their backstories) that we'll see at the end of The Flash and going forward in the DCEU. So the movie doesn't even do proper world building.

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    It seems like the Flash movie intentionally messes up the timeline so it can be fixed down the line with a Crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veni View Post
    J.K Rowling will never give the rights to WB. Regardless of what you think of her, it's her creation. WB wanted their own Star Wars and met with her in order to continue the franchise. It was their idea to continue the franchise, not hers. They should have never made the Fantastic Beasts films ( even tho the first film was good). WB should focus on new franchises like Dune.
    No sane executive is going to let go of a world wide phenomenon like Harry Potter, before the MCU that was the biggest franchise in Hollywood history at the box office. Dune wishes it’d come close to matching 1/4 of the popularity of Harry Potter. Thankfully Zaslav understands the importance of the wizarding world to WBD success

    Quote Originally Posted by comicstar100 View Post
    Sounds like the Flash won't be the course correction they planned. And we are wasting Keaton's Bruce for Batgirl instead of Batman Beyond. It really isn't more apparent how far ahead Marvel Studios is than right now. Marvel announces movies through 2025 and DC can't even decide who's playing Batman.

    By Marvel gas always been far ahead of DC in comics so why would you expect any different from the films. Also let’s not kid ourselves and think that all those Marvel projects are going to be any good, especially if phase 4 is any indication on the quality of the MCU films/shows in the future. Quality > Quantity
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Gato View Post
    By Marvel gas always been far ahead of DC in comics so why would you expect any different from the films. Also let’s not kid ourselves and think that all those Marvel projects are going to be any good, especially if phase 4 is any indication on the quality of the MCU films/shows in the future. Quality > Quantity
    Lol. You do realize that your comment in no way even relates to the topic Veni is talking about, don't you? They're talking about Harry Potter.

    Like, it's as if people just want to find a reason to pile on DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin of Sector 2814 View Post
    Lol. You do realize that your comment in no way even relates to the topic Veni is talking about, don't you? They're talking about Harry Potter.

    Like, it's as if people just want to find a reason to pile on DC.
    Quoted the wrong post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
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    It's a rewrite. Continuity wise, Keaton is presented as a sort of continuation of Batfleck, like a weird recast. What Batfleck was doing at the beginning of the movie (try to help Barry to get his dad out of jail) get a pay off with BatKeaton at the end, like they were the same character the whole time. Keaton arrives driving the same Batfleck's car he had at the beginning of the movie. I think it's the same car from BvS.

    Batgirl establish BatKeaton was the DCEU BM all along in the intro scene, it's a flashback with young Barbara, like a decade in the past, and her dad (Simmons) helps BatKeaton with criminals. As the director said they mix Snyder's and Burton's continuities.

    Batfleck is somehow lost elsewhere and need Barry's help to be rescued. From what was described he does appear to be using Lex's tech to communicating with Barry. There's the Lexcorp logo behind him. Maybe Jesse Eisenberg will join him, lol.
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    So reality changed

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    And there are apparently no actual Flash villains...in a Flash movie.

    It sounds like Iris is barely in it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post


    Lol, don't ask me. I don't get the logic behind the BatKeaton/Batfleck merging. Maybe it's something they'll end up changing a bit down the line via reshoots. idk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    And there are apparently no actual Flash villains...in a Flash movie.

    It sounds like Iris is barely in it too.
    Does spoilers:
    future Flashpoint's Barry with a black suit (Black Flash?)
    end of spoilers counts as a Flash villain?

    Iris is at the beginning and the end. There are other Barry's supporting characters played by the young actors announced long ago (Rudy Mancuso and the others, I don't recall their names), they are his work colleagues. Minor roles.

    Nora and Henry Allen are in there though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
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    It's BM dealing with terrorists and call Barry for help. That's why they are in Gotham. It's the scene from the set pics with Batfleck on a bike. WW arrives at the end of the sequence to save the day.
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    spoilers:
    Batfleck is lost somewhere in the multiverse, and Barry has to find him. It's a sequel tease.
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    For ANOTHER Flash and Batman multiverse team up movie?
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    This is sounding worse and worse the more I discover. It's really a shame that this Flash has to be propped up by Batman and other DC characters/mythology unrelated to Flash
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cameron View Post
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    For ANOTHER Flash and Batman multiverse team up movie?
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    This is sounding worse and worse the more I discover. It's really a shame that this Flash has to be propped up by Batman and other DC characters/mythology unrelated to Flash
    It's not set in stone. With the shit going on with Ezra it could be dropped. If Barry gets recast, I don't see the point of a non-Ezra Flash wasting his time to travel the multiverse to search Batfleck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin of Sector 2814 View Post
    Lol. You do realize that your comment in no way even relates to the topic Veni is talking about, don't you? They're talking about Harry Potter.

    Like, it's as if people just want to find a reason to pile on DC.
    He was quoting my post which was about DC's upcoming content compared to Marvel's in film.

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    The Flash synopsis spoilers have all been relatively the same so I’m sure it’s legit. But this movie was completed a while ago and so much has changed since then.

    The movie seems like the swan song of the last WB regime. They seemed to want to restart the universe but keep it open to the more profitable parts of the Snyderverse (Aquaman and Wonder Woman). They had zero faith in Superman as a character and couldn’t get Cavill to do cameos, so they were attempting to move on with just Supergirl.

    Zaslav wants a connected universe and wants to revitalize Superman, so a lot of the plans The Flash put into motion may be scrapped. It’ll take a while before they get someone to oversee the DC movieverse so I guess we just have to wait and see.

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