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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin of Sector 2814 View Post
    Literally right here:



    Or did you forget that you’d said this…?

    Bottom line: there’s nothing to suggest that Gal or Jason will disappear. It’s as simple as that…
    Yet again you are trying to twist things to fit your narrative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin of Sector 2814 View Post
    You do realize though that Gal is only able to get that big a paycheck from Netflix because of the fame and attention she’s garnered from being Wonder Woman, correct?? She would probably be the first to tell you: that is the role that quite literally saved her career. She was about to quit acting before she landed it.

    And if she were to step away from it too soon, those paychecks would likely dry up real fast.
    Roles aren't going to dry up once she stops playing WW. She already got the status. She's the 2nd live action WW. That title will stick with her just as it has Lynda Carter. Gal activitly playing WW didn't help promo or anything for those films because there was no WW to promote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    This incarnation of the DCEU isn’t going to go on forever. And if the upcoming movies flop or underperform there’s no telling what might happen. Nobody ever would have thought a Batman cartoon by Timm and Reeves would get axed for HBO MAX and have to go shop itself elsewhere, yet here we are.
    Of course it's not gonna go on forever. But it's weird how many seem to be rooting for it to fail so that they can get what they want without regard for what's actually realistic for the studio. Even if WB were to decide right now to axe the current DCEU and start completely from scratch, well that would require shelving at least 4 upcoming projects that are already in the can, resulting in huge losses for the company as well as potential lawsuits. And then on top of that, we'd have to wait a significant amount of time before any news came of a new continuity. So we'd be looking at maybe another 10 years before we had things up and established again.

    Why would WB do that? Why risk incurring huge losses when they already have these multi-million dollar franchises established?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    Truth is the DCEU has been a Cluster F since the moment they allowed a Trailer company to make a cut of the Suicide Squad (2016). They edit films without the approval of the Directors SS and JL, they announce films and then quietly quit development and end the project, they film a movie and shelve it, they release multiple versions of the same character at the same time, they've set the bar so low a snake could limbo under it.
    And that's what it boils down to. Simply that some people don't think that the DCEU could ever be successful because they didn't like the first few movies that came. And fair, some of them were really not good. But that being said, Suicide Squad made over $700 million at the box office, so it was successful. Also, this is not 2016 anymore. Since then the DCEU has produced much better content, ranging from decent to great. Since 2016's Suicide Squad, we got the first Wonder Woman, Shazam, Birds of Prey, Aquaman (which made a billion dollars), and even a Suicide Squad sequel/reset by James Gunn that was amazing and then a spinoff series from that in Peacemaker that was also great and is getting a season 2.

    So, just let the DCEU build off its recent wins since what they've been doing recently seems to be working.

    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
    Yet again you are trying to twist things to fit your narrative.
    I'm not twisting. That's just what you said.

    Roles aren't going to dry up once she stops playing WW. She already got the status. She's the 2nd live action WW. That title will stick with her just as it has Lynda Carter. Gal activitly playing WW didn't help promo or anything for those films because there was no WW to promote.
    Do you really believe that? Do you really think that audiences don't look at Gal Gadot and associate her with Wonder Woman, therefore giving studios a reason to continue to hire her?

    Also, you do know that celebrity can diminish, right? Since being Wonder Woman in the 70s, what project has Lynda Carter done that attracted the same amount of attention?

    Can Gal only play Wonder Woman? No. Is she secretly an Israeli Meryl Streep? I don't know. Maybe. But if she were to leave Wonder Woman, she would need to attract the right vehicle to showcase that talent while she has the chance in order to maintain the same level of celebrity she enjoys now.

    In either case, let Gal decide when she's done playing Wonder Woman. Because she hasn't given an indication that she wants to stop right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin of Sector 2814 View Post
    Of course it's not gonna go on forever. But it's weird how many seem to be rooting for it to fail so that they can get what they want without regard for what's actually realistic for the studio.
    You mean to get actual good films instead of films that developed toxic folks who went after folks to get what they want and then have the nerve to hide behind donations to a charity?

    Nobody is screaming for failure. Folks are TIRE of the Snyderverse gang. Who won't stop demanding to be pandered to.

    What is realistic for the studio is NOT concerning themselves what universe they are using but can they make a decent to good film without drama or pandering to toxic fanboys.

    They got some of that with Aquaman, WW, Shazam and Suicide Squad. Now the issue is can they do that with Blue Beetle and anyone else who is NOT a certain demographic.


    Even if WB were to decide right now to axe the current DCEU and start completely from scratch, well that would require shelving at least 4 upcoming projects that are already in the can, resulting in huge losses for the company as well as potential lawsuits.
    Where does it say they have to be axed??? It's not like we haven't seen movies in different universes before.

    You can start again while letting those 4 finish what they started.

    The Batman movie nor Joker are in the same universe as Shazam or Black Adam or Birds of Prey or Justice League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    Aren't you projecting? You tell others not to project while acting like you know what the Studio and actors are thinking. Truth is no one knows what WB plans are for the future of DC on film I don't think even people who work at the Studio fully know right now, it all seems to be in flux.


    Truth is the DCEU has been a Cluster F since the moment they allowed a Trailer company to make a cut of the Suicide Squad (2016). They edit films without the approval of the Directors SS and JL, they announce films and then quietly quit development and end the project, they film a movie and shelve it, they release multiple versions of the same character at the same time, they've set the bar so low a snake could limbo under it.
    FYI there are cases where trailers are made without anyone from the movie having a say in them. Which is why some films have footage that was never meant to be in the movie yet is in the trailers.

    I know a few that had that happen to them and in some cases RUINED the box office for said films because the trailer presented something that was NOT in the movie.

    Whose Your Caddy movie is an example. The writer/director could not get work for 7 years because that trailer made his movie look a way that it was NOT.


    And if they were so concerned about money-why not release the Batgirl movie? Shelving it might be a tax write off but how many other studios and production companies will bypass them in the long run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin of Sector 2814 View Post
    Of course it's not gonna go on forever. But it's weird how many seem to be rooting for it to fail so that they can get what they want without regard for what's actually realistic for the studio. Even if WB were to decide right now to axe the current DCEU and start completely from scratch, well that would require shelving at least 4 upcoming projects that are already in the can, resulting in huge losses for the company as well as potential lawsuits. And then on top of that, we'd have to wait a significant amount of time before any news came of a new continuity. So we'd be looking at maybe another 10 years before we had things up and established again.

    Why would WB do that? Why risk incurring huge losses when they already have these multi-million dollar franchises established?



    And that's what it boils down to. Simply that some people don't think that the DCEU could ever be successful because they didn't like the first few movies that came. And fair, some of them were really not good. But that being said, Suicide Squad made over $700 million at the box office, so it was successful. Also, this is not 2016 anymore. Since then the DCEU has produced much better content, ranging from decent to great. Since 2016's Suicide Squad, we got the first Wonder Woman, Shazam, Birds of Prey, Aquaman (which made a billion dollars), and even a Suicide Squad sequel/reset by James Gunn that was amazing and then a spinoff series from that in Peacemaker that was also great and is getting a season 2.

    So, just let the DCEU build off its recent wins since what they've been doing recently seems to be working.



    I'm not twisting. That's just what you said.



    Do you really believe that? Do you really think that audiences don't look at Gal Gadot and associate her with Wonder Woman, therefore giving studios a reason to continue to hire her?

    Also, you do know that celebrity can diminish, right? Since being Wonder Woman in the 70s, what project has Lynda Carter done that attracted the same amount of attention?

    Can Gal only play Wonder Woman? No. Is she secretly an Israeli Meryl Streep? I don't know. Maybe. But if she were to leave Wonder Woman, she would need to attract the right vehicle to showcase that talent while she has the chance in order to maintain the same level of celebrity she enjoys now.

    In either case, let Gal decide when she's done playing Wonder Woman. Because she hasn't given an indication that she wants to stop right now.
    I liked Shazam, Aquman, both WW films, & Gunn's Suicide Squad and Peacemaker.

    But you're acting like the DCEU going forward is set in stone and any voices of decent or disbelief are just "haters". No it's not "haters" it's realist. Until Flashpoint, Aquaman 2, or a company statement on the future of DC on films comes out. Nobody knows what's going to happen and all speculation is valid no matter how much some dislike it.

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    What a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leancarp900 View Post
    That was short-lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico Jones View Post
    What a mess.
    Have to stay consistent
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    Smart man. Didn't fall for the trap of "Let's run before we can walk to try to catch up with Feige and when it inevitably fails again, I get blamed for it".

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    I can totally get looking at this mess and deciding nah, ain't worth it.

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    Yeah, I don’t buy the Rideback excuse since that was something that would’ve been ironed out early.

    Something else happened.

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    Guess the search continues. Other names on the supposed list were not very enticing (Amy Pascal taking over would be a nightmare).
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    God, WB is a GD mess right now.
    Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.

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