I really like the Huntress image. That to me is a great look. Best of the 3. Canary looks different obviously but still good. She looks modern which is good though.
I really like the Huntress image. That to me is a great look. Best of the 3. Canary looks different obviously but still good. She looks modern which is good though.
I don't see it that way since the Shared Universe aspect was established from the ground up and there was enough consistency in tone and style to where it came off like she would fit in the same film as those three.
I'm not getting that sense with BoP versus other DC films.
I wonder how much character shifting we'll see in the new DC films.And Black Canary doesn't have to stay in a grounded light, especially when called up to the big league(s).
Except I didn't bring up the MCU, another poster did and invoked it to try to tear apart the DCEU. That context matters.
Also, I'm not criticizing the MCU, I'm stating basic facts in how it functions. The MCU operates on the same temporal framework as any other studio, they may have a long term goal, but the individual details are subject to change.
Also Zach Snyder had a Justice League trilogy planned, he's revealed the contents of the planned story publicly. I'm not sure now if there is a plan now, but there definitely was when Snyder was working at the project, yet this claim has circling about when Man of Steel was released.
I actually wasn't sure what you were talking, but I knew for certain that Avengers 1 Loki's staff did not possess an Infinity Stone and yep, I was right, they 100% retconed Loki's staff to have an Infinity Stone in it. Here's an article on CBR that says as much (FYI, the Cosmic Cube thing is listed there also). I'm pretty sure Loki only starts using the "mind stone" to possess people after coming into contact with the Cosmic Cube and its throughout the rest of the film that it is implied that its the Cosmic Cube that controlling people.Especially since you're not even getting the details right, you say the Tesseract suddenly had mind-control powers in the first Avengers but that's false it was Loki's staff which housed the mind stone, and describing the mind stone at its core to be like and AI doesn't even contradict anything.
I was was wrong in thinking it was the Tezzeret that was used to create Ultron, but I'm still not wrong in saying how inconsistent the stone was used. After this retcon you go from mind control powers to AI to putting it in a robot and giving him the ability to shoot lasers from his forehead
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Again you're trying to criticize and still getting things wrong, it leads me to doubt that you've even seen the movie.
Throughout the entire film every time mind control was used or brought up in the film it was from the Loki's scepter, it was never implied that it was the cube, and even admitting that the scepter housing the mind stone is a retcon it was used consistently throughout the films, Loki constantly used it to shoot lazers in the first Avengers so Vision using the stone to do it isn't anything new, and again being able to describe the mind stone as being similar to an AI still doesn't contradict anything that we've seen it do.
And then you said the other poster brought up the MCU to tear down the DCEU, now that's a flat out lie, I looked at the poster you replied to, and the person they replied and so on and not once in that reply chain did anyone bring up the MCU, that was all you.
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Um, Helena totally does. She's had multiple costumes but they are all variations of the same thing and you can tell who the character is just by looking at her. None of that is present yet in the film's marketing. She has a crossbow and that's it.
Dinah at the very least has blonde hair, black leather jacket and gloves, and fishnets, all of which could make it into most of her costumes.
But you are very vocal in your hatred for the MCU. If someone criticizes the DCEU, you have to tear down the MCU. Ascended never mentioned the MCU but you had to bring it up so you can tear it down. You do that quite frequently along with the same posters who hate the MCU.
Even by going by your record though, is it wrong to say that you liked 4/7ths of the current DCEU line up? Is that not a good record? How many movies is it going to take for you to consider the DCEU to be on the right track? 6 out of 9 with the release of BoP and WW2?
By all accounts WB has been attempting to rectify what fans did not like about Zach Snyder's work, but it feels like your being overtly punishing. What your basically saying is that WB failed with BvS and instead of doubling down and by their allowing another creator to make changes, including recasts, and that's also bad. It genuinely feels punitive.
There aren't that many shared universes out there. So when someone talks about how shared universes are suppose to be I think we can be honest and say your making a direct comparison to the MCU.When did I mention the MCU here?
This isn't about the MCU. This is about WB/DC not being able to stick to anything. A shared universe requires consistency. WB has none. For example, in the DCEU Batman is an older, worn down hero who (for a time) lost his way. Except now he's not an older guy and if the movie ever does actually happen who knows how much of his previous DCEU history will be included? There's no Superman at all right now. Cyborg is gone completely too I believe. So how is a shared universe supposed to exist when an individual IP keeps getting shifted and moved around and taken away? I know you're a fan of the DCEU and that's great. I'm glad someone is happy with the product. But this studio is not building a sustainable shared experience, they're stumbling to create single, individual films and have already lost track of their initial plans and actors. The whole thing is poorly run. It has nothing to do with Marvel at all.
Even if you weren't my points still stand, the consistency and forethought your ascribing to, let's admit it, the MCU, is over stated. Between Hulk 1 and Avengers the actor who played Hulk not only looks different, but appears to be a different race, Loki's scepter is an Infinity Stone now, even though it clearly wasn't in Avengers 1, Hawkeye and Black Widow were clearly being shipped together even though he had a wife, Thor 3 was clearly a functional reboot of the franchise, in Avengers 1 Cap is provided no reason to work and actually has his negative suspicions confirmed about them, yet in WS he's working for Shield...
Again, when I say these things, I'm not criticizing the MCU, I'm saying their are inconsistencies and retcons within the this shared universe because of course there would be. Some of these were obviously for the better too. Thor 3 got rid of most of the garbage that weighed down the previous films, new supporting cast, tonal and setting change, Thor's character changed too, and its much more beloved than any of the previous films.
I would go so far as to say shared universes don't require any consistency at all. No one would say Silver Age DC Comics isn't a shared universe, but there is absolutely no consistency between titles. If every comic book in the DC Silver Age line up was canon to each other, then there would be at least 3 Atlantises, the mantle of the earth would collapsed because of all the underground civilizations tunnelling through it and there would be a different alien invasion every day. The core of what a shared universe implies is that maybe once and a while Batman and Superman will team up. It doesn't require a long term plan at all.
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If they weren’t gonna go the purple outfit route, I wish they went with her “Grayson” costume instead.
Don’t particularly like the aesthetic for the little bits we’ve seen so far but I’ll hold off until they put a proper trailer/teaser out before I decide how I feel about it.
I agree, which is why I didn't make the claim. This was a response to the claim that Batman and other DCEU recasts were a problem. I’m just applying the same logic elsewhere.
I found this claim on a CBR article 15 Retcons in the CBR which showed up when I was looking for a reason why a poster claimed Loki's staff was an Infinity Stone. I think most people came away from Avengers thinking they were in a relationship and she even wears a piece of arrow jewellery in Winter Soldier too.nor is Black Widow and Hawkeye's relationship.
You are aware men and women can be friends right?
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But...but Jurnee doesn't look like Black Canary...Yeah, okay.