DC/WB Films/Worlds (No Spoilers)

[Agent Z]

Superman could of taken it out of the city. He didnt. Metropolis was annihilated.

He did try to take it out of the city. Zod brought it back.

[Agent Z]

A big difference is the Avengers went out their way to save people, tried to keep the fighting away from civilians, things Superman didn't do and unlike Superman didn't have the ability to take the fight somewhere else.
Context matters you know.

The Avengers were a crew of six people fighting the least threatening aliens put to film since M. Night Shyamalan's Signs. Supes was a guy who'd avoided violence against another sentient beinf all his life fighting an invading force of people with all his powers and far more combat training.

Not comparible. And the Avengers actually cause more damage to the city they're protecting than Superman does.

[Bloxer]

The excuses people make here are just comical.
If the Avengers can fight an entire army and still go out of their way to save people there's no reason Superman can't when he's fighting like 3 people.

[manwhohaseverything]

Superman could of taken it out of the city. He didnt. Metropolis was annihilated.

What is this?
Look dude, let me ask one simple question. What was zod's motive at that time?was he willing to compromise on his goal?Was this goal kal el or kal el's misery?

[manwhohaseverything]

The excuses people make here are just comical.
If the Avengers can fight an entire army and still go out of their way to save people there's no reason Superman can't when he's fighting like 3 people.

Zod can kill entire avengers roster without trying much.yeah!even mcu version of scarlet witch.heck! I would say one of zod's henchmen can do it. Zod has superspeed and flight. He is a genetically bred supersoldier.it wasn't 3 people. There were other kryptonIans.

[Agent Z]

The excuses people make here are just comical.
If the Avengers can fight an entire army and still go out of their way to save people there's no reason Superman can't when he's fighting like 3 people.

What's comical is how little context seems to mean to you.

[Bloxer]

What's comical is how little context seems to mean to you.

So more non-answers.

Zod can kill entire avengers roster without trying much.yeah!even mcu version of scarlet witch.heck! I would say one of zod's henchmen can do it.

Ok and? That has literally nothing to do with anything.

[manwhohaseverything]

So more non-answers.


Ok and? That has literally nothing to do with anything.

It does. That's zod's powerlevel.
An army of unintelligent fodder with zero strength =/= one guy with the power of 10 such army dead set on human extinction for smiting kal el.
Zod is focused, pissed, intelligent and dangerous. Avengers couldn't stop thanos. If thanos wanted he could have leveled any city on earth. Zod is thanos. Zod wanted extinction. But, clark stopped him at genocide.

[Bloxer]

It does. That's zod's powerlevel.
An army of unintelligent fodder with zero strength =/= one guy with the power of 10 such army dead set on human extinction for smiting kal el.
Zod is focused, pissed, intelligent and dangerous. Avengers couldn't stop thanos. If thanos wanted he could have leveled any city on earth. Zod is thanos. Zod wanted extinction. But, clark stopped him at genocide.

It still has nothing do to with anything the Avengers weren't the ones fighting Zod Superman was and Superman was just as powerful if not more than Zod so that excuse doesn't work for why he couldn't have tried to save people.
Take that power levels talk somewhere else.

[manwhohaseverything]

It still has nothing do to with anything the Avengers weren't the ones fighting Zod Superman was and Superman was just as powerful if not more than Zod so that excuse doesn't work for why he couldn't have tried to save people.
Take that power levels talk somewhere else.

No, superman was not powerful as zod. He was close enough . Zod wanted human extinction, by some miracle superman got upperhand for some moments. He took it.zod got killed.

[Bloxer]

No, superman was not powerful as zod. He was close enough . Zod wanted human extinction, by some miracle superman got upperhand for some moments. He took it.zod got killed.

Superman has been Earth for years bathing in sunlight and getting used to his powers and heightened senses, Zod was earth for like 10 minutes

[The_Lurk]

While I too would have preferred a more light and happy feeling Superman movie (if not at first than at least one between MoS & BvS) its ridiculous what some ppl claim. The setup was solid. Zod was relentless and did not gave Superman a breather moment; while its nice to see Superman swooping in to catch someone falling from a building or saving the bus full of people it would have felt out of place with how Zod, a Zod that grew more and more accustomed to Kryptonian powers by each passing second, was at his neck. So yeah, it was pretty grim and had a far to big uncounted body count for a Superman movie and I personally would have preferred the director would have done another setup that would have left time for more happy breathing moments. But he was consequent; he did thought the stuff through with the setup he gave. He put Superman between a hard place and a rock but it was always realistic. Even the infamous neck snap as a nod to post crisis Byrne Superman killing off Zod and his two goons and having an existential crisis afterwards because of it (which solidified him in the "no killing ever" stance he took).

So someone can blame the setup as a whole because one did not like the darker tone; but blaming the situations in the setup (like Superman not being shown saving people in the big fight with Zod) makes ppl look like someone who did not muster up the minimum attention for the movie required to participate in the discussion of its perceived failing or lacks the ability to understand what was happening in there.

[manwhohaseverything]

Superman has been Earth for years bathing in sunlight and getting used to his powers and heightened senses, Zod was earth for like 10 minutes

Different versions, different ruls. Superman's power work differently in man of steel movie. He tried to do it as realistic as possible. But, superman is fantastical.(come on flight is impossible with high gravity explanation. At best he jump really high ) . Solar radiation alone isn't superman's power source. Earths weaker gravity, earth's atmosphere being more rich , his own physiology.. Etc are also factors.This isn’t like kryptonIans being solar batteries or plants . Its more like a man on moon or another planet like in avatar . If i get to moon i can jump high.but,a high jumper goes to moon. He can jump higher than me any day.it wouldn't take days for them to do that.
Also clark had to adapt to earths environment. He had breathing problems, Sight problems, hearings problems..etc.zod did that pretty easily. Because he had training and was bred to be a warrior . That was the only gap between them. After that, he was basically manhandling clark. Zack snyder had tried to integrate all the explanations from different eras including the original Krypton's high gravity.

[batnbreakfast]

Anybody willing to have the old MoS/Avengers argument AGAIN should just read this thread from the beginning More news please

[mace11]

Zod can kill entire avengers roster without trying much.yeah!even mcu version of scarlet witch.

If you talking comics or mcu,not true by the way.
If you talking about mcu for example Captain marvel alone or MCU scarlet witch for would take him out by themselves.
Even mcu thor.
Anyway mcu thor with stormbreaker ,captain marvel and scarlet witch are above man of steel and justice league dceu supeman in power.
I would say mcu thor with mjolnir is around the same level of power that man of steel superman had,but believe that version of mcu thor overall is abit more powerful.