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    Quote Originally Posted by batnbreakfast View Post
    Anybody willing to have the old MoS/Avengers argument AGAIN should just read this thread from the beginning More news please
    Lmao some things never change. WB needs to give us a new Supes movie so we can switch to Snyder vs whoever succeeds him .

    Things will change once the WW 1984 and BoP trailers come out.

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    Avengers couldn't stop thanos.
    They did stop thanos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    If you talking comics or mcu,not true by the way.

    If you talking about mcu for example Captain marvel alone or MCU scarlet witch for would take him out by themselves.
    Even mcu thor.
    Nope! None of them come close to superman let alone zod. Zod would wreck them so hard. It would be a massacre . Mcu versions of characters are a joke in terms power.All mcu scarlet witch has is telekinesis and some telepathy. Zod has nothing to fear.captain marvel isn't an avenger. Even, then are you kidding me. She has no chance. At best she beats up ships. Oooh! Scary. They made hulk into a joke. Thor got some of his swag back in his last movie. But, no where near good enough. Anyways, this is out of topic. I am done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    They did stop thanos.
    Second time, with everyone behind them. Not the first time. First time, thanos tore through them like nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Nope! None of them come close to superman let alone zod. Zod would wreck them so hard. It would be a massacre . Mcu versions of characters are a joke in terms power.All mcu scarlet witch has is telekinesis and some telepathy. Zod has nothing to fear.captain marvel isn't an avenger. Even, then are you kidding me. She has no chance. At best she beats up ships. Oooh! Scary. They made hulk into a joke. Thor got some of his swag back in his last movie. But, no where near good enough. Anyways, this is out of topic. I am done.
    The dceu superheroes are not at the powers levels they are in comics as well and captain marvel is an avenger.Captain marvel by herself is taking out dceu superman or zod.
    The justice league superman is closer to thor with stormbreaker in power,but thor is still more powerful.The other comments you made i disagree with and are just incorrect too.

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    This was posted a few years ago on another forum i sometimes go to.
    kurse vs zod
    mcu vs dceu


    #32 Edited by Turr
    @heatforce: Say what u want, DCU Superman and MCU Thor are VERY comparable. Durability wise, Thor tanked direct hits from universe-level reality warping infinity stone from Malekith without more then a scratched, and Superman tanked planet-shaping gravity beam and a nuke, but was briefly KO'd both times. I don't think I need to say which is more impressive.

    Durability Thor > Sups
    Strength Thor = Sups

    Speed wise both move in MHS, entering and reentering earths atmosphere in seconds (Thor in Thor 2, Superman in MoS) and neither has FTL feats so far so they are roughly equal as well.

    Speed Thor = Sups

    Energy projection Thor = Sups

    So if anything, they are literally almost exact equals, with Thor being a bit ahead in durability.

    So Kurse stomping Thor, and Sups stomping Zod, should obviously give Kurse a win here. Unless you are biased, that is.
    Anyway to cometine the debate you should go here.I don't think this it the right thread for it.
    Clink link below.
    Poll: DCU Zod vs MCU Kurse

    http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums...se-1850012/#86

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    The dceu superheroes are not at the powers levels they are in comics as well and captain marvel is an avenger.Captain marvel by herself is taking out dceu superman or zod.
    The justice league superman is closer to thor with stormbreaker in power,but thor is still more powerful.The other comments you made i disagree with and are just incorrect too.
    Superman is very much at the very least at powerlevel of postcrisis superman . So is zod. Clark started at goldenage level. He was leap frogging fast in terms of powers.
    Look dude, superman beat up a demi godess and friends who beat a god that killed an entire pantheon, easily. Stormbreaker is powerful. But that would not be able to touch superman at his speed. Nope! Captain marvel hasn't done anything zod can't take. Captain marvel hasn't officially joined the avengers yet.scarlet witch hasn't shown any reality warping ability.
    The best durability feat is from thor in infinity war when he took the beam from forge. That is it. Not good enough. Nowhere near good enough. Jl basically puts clark back to precrisis level or atleast something like that.
    Also, superman has only bled twice through out this entire thing.
    Last edited by manwhohaseverything; 10-28-2019 at 09:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    This was posted a few years ago on another forum i sometimes go to.

    Anyway to cometine the debate you should go here.I don't think this it the right thread for it.
    Clink link below.
    Poll: DCU Zod vs MCU Kurse

    http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums...se-1850012/#86
    Reality stone hasn't shown much of anything. Thanos basically used it once against strange. That is it. I don't think it qualifies to put thor in the same league as zod or superman.

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    Reality stone hasn't shown much of anything. Thanos basically used it once against strange. That is it. I don't think it qualifies to put thor in the same league as zod or superman.
    Wrong again.
    I have a funny feeling if we were debating the comic versions of superman and thor you would say superman would still win.
    I just get that feeling.


    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Superman is very much at the very least at powerlevel of postcrisis superman . So is zod. Clark started at goldenage level. He was leap frogging fast in terms of powers.
    Look dude, superman beat up a demi godess and friends who beat a god that killed an entire pantheon, easily. Stormbreaker is powerful. But that would not be able to touch superman at his speed. Nope! Captain marvel hasn't done anything zod can't take. Captain marvel hasn't officially joined the avengers yet.scarlet witch hasn't shown any reality warping ability.
    The best durability feat is from thor in infinity war when he took the beam from forge. That is it. Not good enough. Nowhere near good enough. Jl basically puts clark back to precrisis level.
    Also, superman has only bled twice.
    Wrong and dceu superman is nowhere near pre-crisis comics superman.
    In fact dceu superman is nowhere near post-crisis or new52 superman level.

    Here is more talk.
    If you want to further debate you need to go here.
    DCEU Superman vs Rebirth Superman
    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...erman-1952685/
    and here.
    http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums...se-1850012/#86
    Last edited by mace11; 10-28-2019 at 09:31 AM.

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    Here are some other views.
    Steel-Breakers: 16 MCU Characters Who Would Demolish The DCEU Superman
    https://www.cbr.com/mcu-vs-dceu-superman/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    Wrong again.
    I have funny feeling if we were debating the comics versions of superman and thor you would say superman would still win.
    I just get that feeling.



    Wrong and dceu superman is nowhere near pre-crisis comics superman.
    In fact dceu superman is nowhere near post-crisis or new52 superman level.

    Here is more talk.


    Steel-Breakers: 16 MCU Characters Who Would Demolish The DCEU Superman
    https://www.cbr.com/mcu-vs-dceu-superman/

    If want to futher debate you need to go here.
    DCEU Superman vs Rebirth Superman
    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...erman-1952685/
    and here.
    http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums...se-1850012/#86
    I have edited the post. I said, maybe something like that. Superman is stronger than the planet. That is the lower limit of the guy in dceu. That pretty much puts him at postcrisis level. He tanked a nuclear bomb similar to dark knight returns superman.that pretty much puts him at postcrisis level.Again, superman has never gotten hurt other than by kryptonite or doomsday . Zod was manhandling him. But they weren't causing each other enough damage to get even a cut on each other. That is saying something.None of the battle forum calculations really matter to me. None of the mcu characters have shown the impact of sheer power superman or zod has in the movie.That is just how i feel.When thor fights. It feels like a guy fighting another guy. Dceu had dbz like fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    I have edited the post. I said, maybe something like that. Superman is stronger than the planet. That is the lower limit of the guy in dceu. That pretty much puts him at postcrisis level. He tanked a nuclear bomb similar to dark knight returns superman.that pretty much puts him at postcrisis level.Again, superman has never gotten hurt other than by kryptonite or doomsday . Zod was manhandling him. But they weren't causing each other enough damage to get even a cut on each other. That is saying something.None of the battle forum calculations really matter to me. None of the mcu characters have shown the impact of sheer power superman or zod has in the movie.That is just how i feel.When thor fights. It feels like a guy fighting another guy. Dceu had dbz like fights.
    Incorrect and I disagree with your view and dceu superman is nowhere near pre-crisis or current comics superman.
    That is just the way it is.

    You should check the links and video below for talk of captain marvel power levels in the mcu etc..

    THREAD: CAROL DANVERS - CAPTAIN MARVEL APPRECIATION 2019
    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...on-2019/page83


    Carol Danvers stronger than Hulk and Thor - CBR Community
    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...-Hulk-and-Thor


    https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Dru-Zod_(...nded_Universe)

    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_...(Earth-199999)
    Last edited by mace11; 10-28-2019 at 09:57 AM.

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    Captain Marvel Is More Powerful Than Thor says Avengers Directors - MCU & Avengers News

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    With Superman its always hard to tell. He trains all his live to walk on eggshells even when subconscious to not hurt or break anything/anybody. In fights he always measures every punch and hit so its not lethal.

    This sums its up quite good imo https://youtu.be/4GDNd8b_QOo?t=156

    The gist of it? Darkseid would own all :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    Incorrect and I disagree with your view and dceu superman is nowhere near pre-crisis or current comics superman.
    That is just the way it is.

    You should check the links and video below for talk of captain marvel power levels in the mcu etc..

    THREAD: CAROL DANVERS - CAPTAIN MARVEL APPRECIATION 2019
    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...on-2019/page83


    Carol Danvers stronger than Hulk and Thor - CBR Community
    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...-Hulk-and-Thor


    https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Dru-Zod_(...nded_Universe)

    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_...(Earth-199999)
    I'm not exactly sure what all of the MCU's Captain Marvel feats are. But when it comes to strength, Superman is still the big kahuna. In BvS it was revealed that he shifted a tectonic plate, which weighs 24 quintillion tons. No one in the MCU has demontrated that level of strength.

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