Arkham games doesn't work in the frame of realism, though. I don't know what the demographics is for titans tv show. Anyways, i think the stigma with robin also has to do with old robin costume and adam west tv show.It's sort of like aquaman and the talking to fish thing.
From a design and world standpoint I think there's enough of a sense or reality to where it could migrate to an actual live-action property.
The demographic for Titans is pretty adult.
I mean, if Batman and Aquaman can overcome those same stigmas, why can't Robin?
I meant the familiarity of audiences to the source material . Mass audiences would have people with no idea about the source material. Titans tvshow might have only attracted people who have a connection to the source material.
I am not saying robin can't. In fact i would welcome it. But, i am just saying these might be the factors for reluctance by the suits with character. At any rate, they could do nightwing.
I saw a few people wondering why a late twenty something Dick Grayson was still dressing up as Robin and wanting him to switch to the Nightwing identity quickly.
People seemed cool with Jason Todd's Robin though.
Marvel made Bucky the same age as Cap rather than go the teen sidekick route.
We may be seeing teen sidekicks/apprentices in Hawkeye the series and next Ant-Man film so it will be interesting to see how audiences respond to that.
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I meant for me. The everything is connected fatigue is real for me. I get financially that the MCU is going strong and people are watching, but I just want to see more stand alone one hero stuff that won't impact the rest of the universe for a while.
And of the DC films that made a billion, one was a Elseworld. I think the MCU makes so many billion dollar movies because they are good and has audience trust. DC doesn't need to be a shared universe to make a billion dollar Wonder Woman movie.
Shared universe fatigue is real outside of the MCU. Other studios have tried to launch one and failed. DC came the closest because they have one of the greatest catalog of characters and full access to all of them, but they somehow managed to fuck that up and now by necessity they pretty much have to focus on self contained movies of quality rather than worrying about crossing over. They haven't done much to show they get Superman on his own let alone worrying about having him interact with Batman.
As for Robin, the concept would work fine depending on how they do it. It's too vital of a relationship for Bruce to keep leaving out of adaptations. Just don't go all in on the child soldier thing, introduce Dick as a 13-14 year old and then time jump to the sequel where is around 18-19 and you can get a BTAS setup. Its not that hard
I don't think it expected enough familiarity with the source material to where it would be all that different from a feature film. At least in my opinion.
Even stuff arguably more geared towards general audiences like the Arrowverse shows have Arsenal/Speedy and Kid Flash.
Sidekicks are kind of a quinetessential archetype in action movies. I'm not expecting Golden Age Robin but that doesn't mean the character can't work.
I think most people forget DCAU Robin was college-aged until Tim came along.
For an established part of the mythos that the movies haven't done anything with in a while? I don't think so.
Doesn't mean he has to be added just because he could theoretically work, especially if the filmmakers don't want to add him (I don't think Reeves or Pattinson want Robin, not stated just my impression).
You don't think it's worth the hurdle either, or did you type that wrong?For an established part of the mythos that the movies haven't done anything with in a while? I don't think so.
But comic success doesn't equal movie success. Superman is having trouble getting a good movie, Harley Quinn had a good movie that didn't do well, meanwhile Aquaman made a billion. No reason to believe Dicks success would translate - never mind he hasn't been Robin in decades, and Pattinson's Batman is too young to have gone through the whole Robin to Nightwing story.
I don't think either has commented on it at all. Other than their approach (which doesn't rule it out because there's so much about it we're not sure about yet) I wouldn't rule anything out.
He doesn't have to be added but that doesn't mean he can't.
I don't think it's even that much of a hurdle to begin with.You don't think it's worth the hurdle either, or did you type that wrong?
That doesn't necessarily mean these characters are any less significant/important though.But comic success doesn't equal movie success. Superman is having trouble getting a good movie, Harley Quinn had a good movie that didn't do well, meanwhile Aquaman made a billion. No reason to believe Dicks success would translate - never mind he hasn't been Robin in decades, and Pattinson's Batman is too young to have gone through the whole Robin to Nightwing story.
No one is expecting Pattinson to start out with Robin but if this is really turning into a trilogy there is probably some expectation that they'll get into the sidekicks at some point.