Yeah, filming starts next month. He's definitely signed a contract already. I imagine at worst, WB would just give him less screen time outside of the costume and woud let someone else shoot most of the scenes in costume if he's really concerned about COVID.Originally Posted by Holt
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03-23-2021, 09:40 PM #11281Extraordinary Member
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03-23-2021, 09:40 PM #11282Moderator
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Why would they go for an original villain? Originally Posted by Hypo
Are they planning to save the Monster Society for the third film? I guess maybe they're expecting Black Adam 2 to be Billy vs Adam?
Shouldn't Wonder Woman be involved in this?
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03-23-2021, 10:03 PM #11283Incredible Member
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Cosmic Book "News". Barf. Originally Posted by BBally
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03-23-2021, 10:05 PM #11284Incredible Member
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I think he's messing around. He's been locked in since DC Fandome. Originally Posted by Serpico Jones
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03-23-2021, 10:15 PM #11285Invincible Member
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Maybe they don’t want to touch Johns stuff given all the controversy he’s embroiled in? Feel like Shazam 3 would be Adam vs. Billy. Originally Posted by Frontier
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Am I only one who would have preferred if Sivana in first Shazam was some original villain? Johns already changed him significantly during new 52 and movie version changed him even further. Asides of name he barely had anything in common with his classical stories.
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03-23-2021, 11:07 PM #11287Moderator
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Maybe it's better to let the Rock establish himself in his own movie first before crossing him over to Billy's. Originally Posted by Vordan
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03-24-2021, 12:07 AM #11288Obsessed & Compelled
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I'd agree. He feels so far removed from his original self, I don't know why they bothered calling him Sivana at all. Originally Posted by HsssH
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03-24-2021, 02:50 AM #11289Ultimate Member
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Well, considering Flash is Flashpoint just not in name, I doubt that's related to it. FWIW though, Johns wasn't mentioned as a producer for Shazam 2 in the Helen Mirren announcement, despite that he previously was in the Rachel Zegler announcement last month. Him and his production company were both mentioned last time and now they're not, so this could possibly be connected to what Fisher previously said about Johns being quietly phased out. Originally Posted by Vordan
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03-24-2021, 07:25 AM #11290Invincible Member
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It’s not really Flashpoint either. The story doesn’t conform to comic Flashpoint at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if they phased Johns out of the film side while allowing him to continue his TV work with Berlanti. Originally Posted by Johnny
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03-24-2021, 09:05 AM #11291Extraordinary Member
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So that if something happens they can pretend that he works for CW and not for them?
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Why would they? Because a little known actor with no real credits to his name and no proven drawing power compared to anyone else said he did bad things about him and refused to substantiate any of it? Against a guy who has proven to be able to make WB money? Originally Posted by Vordan
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03-24-2021, 09:21 AM #11293Ultimate Member
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Boils down to corporations wanting to avoid bad publicity at any cost. Walter Hamada and Toby Emmerich seem to be irreplaceable for them and it seems Warner Media would defend them at any cost. Geoff Johns is a different story, there's really nothing left to keep him at DC even if none of the stuff with Fisher transpired anyway. All of Johns' peers were fired last year or left, he's now doing more creator-owned stuff, I imagine he also doesn't come cheap for them either and he'll keep making money from royalties and DC will keep selling his TPBs anyway. There doesn't seem to be much of a reason for him to work for DC or WB anymore.
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03-24-2021, 09:26 AM #11294Invincible Member
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Don’t see the PR problems as offsetting the cost. DC is still letting him do comics when he wants to and he’s still friends with Berlanti so he’ll get to do TV/streaming stuff. But he seems to be boxed out of the film side. Originally Posted by achilles
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I did think that entire second arc Johns wrote was written entirely to service a sequel given how much the original film adapted his first Shazam arc, but maybe it's too recent. Originally Posted by Vordan
I don't think they can really ignore Sivana or Mister Mind though.
I mean, I don't see why you'd ever need an original villain for a hero that has an extensive Rogues Gallery. Originally Posted by HsssH
It's like taking a Batman movie and he ends up having to fight some random crime boss.
How is it not Flashpoint though? It's not going to be a one-to-one adaption like the animated movie but the premise is exactly the same. Originally Posted by Vordan
It's like saying the TV show didn't adapt Flashpoint because it wasn't a one-to-one adaption even though they explicitly called it "Flashpoint."
Is Barry Allen going to go back in time to save his mother from being murdered and thus change the timeline or something to that effect? Then yeah, it's Flashpoint.
