Dick Grayson: Robin, Nightwing, Agent of Spyral Appreciation 2018

[Pohzee]

I'snt it a conflict of interest having this particular guy write RHATO and Nightwing?
So we're getting what he failed to sell from nu52. Goodie.

No because despite how we act on here sometimes, these characters aren't competing. A writer having stake in one character doesn't mean that they have to undermine another character.

That being said, I'd still like a new writer please.

[Rac7d*]

No because despite how we act on here sometimes, these characters aren't competing. A writer having stake in one character doesn't mean that they have to undermine another character.

That being said, I'd still like a new writer please.

It be nice if it was true but nah

[dietrich]

No because despite how we act on here sometimes, these characters aren't competing. A writer having stake in one character doesn't mean that they have to undermine another character.

That being said, I'd still like a new writer please.

So Lobdell is just that bad that he believes this is a good idea for nightwing?

[dropkickjake]

That sneak peak from YJ season 3 with Dick in Russia breaking trafficked children free and talking to Oracle. That is perfect for what Nightwing should be. Why can't we have that?!

[oasis1313]

No because despite how we act on here sometimes, these characters aren't competing. A writer having stake in one character doesn't mean that they have to undermine another character.

That being said, I'd still like a new writer please.

In theory, the more books a creator has going on and the more successful they are, the bigger the paycheck.

[yohyoi]

They are gonna ship Ric with that crazy Joker wannabe. I'm out!

[yohyoi]

No because despite how we act on here sometimes, these characters aren't competing. A writer having stake in one character doesn't mean that they have to undermine another character.

That being said, I'd still like a new writer please.

But Nightwing is still getting New52 Lobdell so?

[Konja7]

#50 was a milestone issue, and #51 had a foil cover. Every ongoing book has a sales bump.

It's true, the books with a foil cover seem to have a increase of sales.

[Ascended]

That sneak peak from YJ season 3 with Dick in Russia breaking trafficked children free and talking to Oracle. That is perfect for what Nightwing should be. Why can't we have that?!

Someone needs to go to a con and ask Didio that very question. We've got the blueprint for Nightwing's future. We know it can be successful. We know it would give Dick a solid purpose and role that would not only help him stand on his own, but would even add (if tangentially) to Bruce's legend.

Why DC isn't pulling the trigger and making it happen is beyond me. I'm relatively certain that this has objectively passed into the realm of "bad business because someone has a bias they can't get past" rather than just being a "solid, well-considered business choice that fans simply don't like because we're Wingnuts."

[oasis1313]

But Nightwing is still getting New52 Lobdell so?

I've got no issues with Lobdell personally; a lot of people disliked his work on Young Justice, but I never saw it since I don't buy anything with Tim Dreck in it. I've liked what he's done in his X-Men/Gen-X history and I love what he's done for Jason. I love all Fabian's work. More and more as things come out, this shooting out Dick's batbrain was Tom King's idea with absolutely no plan beyond the panel with the bullet colliding and it all got dropped in Lobdell and Fabian's laps so they're trying to make the best of it. I can't be mad at Lobdell and Fabian here; hopefully they can make something decent out of it (somehow). I'm glad the book is still double shipping so maybe they can get past it more quickly. Too bad Dick got shot instead of Tim Dreck--now THAT would have had some noticeable impact on the emotions of the rest of the Bat-Family.

[Konja7]

Someone needs to go to a con and ask Didio that very question. We've got the blueprint for Nightwing's future. We know it can be successful. We know it would give Dick a solid purpose and role that would not only help him stand on his own, but would even add (if tangentially) to Bruce's legend.

Why DC isn't pulling the trigger and making it happen is beyond me. I'm relatively certain that this has objectively passed into the realm of "bad business because someone has a bias they can't get past" rather than just being a "solid, well-considered business choice that fans simply don't like because we're Wingnuts."

Dick as spy on Grayson was successful, because it has good writers. I don't know if the direction would work with a mediocre writer.

DC doesn't seem to be interested on put good writers on Dick/Nightwing. Maybe it's because they don't think it would make more profits (Grayson started strong, but its become a midseller over time).

Also, it doesn't seem to be popular writers interested on Dick at the moment. Didio and others will probably allow a popular writer to take Nightwing if these writers are interested.

[Godlike13]

Wasn't #50 more expensive?

So... they are so dumb
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11...-to-nightwing/

Fist Superheavy, and next RH/Arsenal. How long before they move him to Burnside at this rate. LoL, this new direction just continues to look so frigging lazy and uninspired.

[Rac7d*]

That sneak peak from YJ season 3 with Dick in Russia breaking trafficked children free and talking to Oracle. That is perfect for what Nightwing should be. Why can't we have that?!

nightwing like that is not accessible to batman thus can no longer be a tool

[Ascended]

Dick as spy on Grayson was successful, because it has good writers. I don't know if the direction would work with a mediocre writer.

Of course it'd survive with mediocre writers. What do you think is happening right now? Nightwing has had a long string of short runs and bad talent (with a few highlights here and there, admittedly) and is still one of DC's most consistent books; outselling most of the DCU that isn't Justice League. The fact that it sells so well even when it's utterly terrible is exactly why we have this problem in the first place. Well, that and possibly managerial bias.

Worst case scenario is that such a change in direction doesn't yield any positive results. DC *literally* has nothing to lose by trying.

DC doesn't seem to be interested on put good writers on Dick/Nightwing. Maybe it's because they don't think it would make more profits (Grayson started strong, but its become a midseller over time).

That's quite likely, I suspect. DC seems to feel that Nightwing has a high sales floor, but a low ceiling, meaning they suffer some serious diminishing returns for larger and larger investments. And I think in the short term that's likely correct. But building a brand isn't a quick, six-month advertising campaign, it's a long term investment.

Also, it doesn't seem to be popular writers interested on Dick at the moment. Didio and others will probably allow a popular writer to take Nightwing if these writers are interested.

Who knows? Impossible to tell from this side of things. But for many years big name writers weren't allowed to write Superman (reportedly), so if there's a ban on major talent handling Nightwing I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[Godlike13]

Good creators are most likely running from his book right now. It’s editors have created an unstable and undesirable situation with the book and character. Thats not gonna attract talent. Who would want to take over a book you can’t write what you want to write, has no support, and would have to inherit a direction that has been met with nothing but mockery and disdain.