Dick Grayson: Robin, Nightwing, Agent of Spyral Appreciation 2018

[oasis1313]

Titans comics does not have a clear purpose. It started as a Wally/OG Teen Titans book then turned into a Junior Justice League book then turned into a DC X-men book. Now, it is an Event Fallout and Character Study Book. It's simply riding whatever event DC makes and turning its' heroes into their worst selves so their is struggle in the plot. Reminds me of New52 Teen Titans where everyone was near or are unlikable. In short, a lot of mopping and more mopping.

The original Titans book had a basic premise of (gifted) teens helping other (not so gifted) teens, and maybe they should go back to a definable mission like that. Dick's leadership skills and charisma need to be showcased again.

[Restingvoice]

Why does DC think Titans can only get character growth when they are acting like a bunch of immature teenagers?.

Because that's what they think their brand is. The most popular story about Titans, teens or otherwise, are either Trigon, Judas Contract, or mentor vs sidekick, so they replay those over on over. Much like how they keep Batman solitary all the time, because the most popular Batman stories are when he's solo like Year One or grim like TDKR. Same reason why they portray Joker getting more and more violent every time, because the most popular Joker stories are the sadistic ones.

They saw certain types of story are the most popular, so they try to shape the characters brand around that. Batman is solitary, Joker is sadistic and Titans are rebel.

Also, DC don't see Titans and Teen Titans as different brands. You can see it in how, whether the team consists of adult or teenager, in any medium, they keep replaying that same Trigon-Deathstroke-Mentor angle.

[Konja7]

Because that's what they think their brand is. The most popular story about Titans, teens or otherwise, are either Trigon, Judas Contract, or mentor vs sidekick, so they replay those over on over. Much like how they keep Batman solitary all the time, because the most popular Batman stories are when he's solo like Year One or grim like TDKR. Same reason why they portray Joker getting more and more violent every time, because the most popular Joker stories are the sadistic ones.

They saw certain types of story are the most popular, so they try to shape the characters brand around that. Batman is solitary, Joker is sadistic and Titans are rebel.

Also, DC don't see Titans and Teen Titans as different brands. You can see it in how, whether the team consists of adult or teenager, in any medium, they keep replaying that same Trigon-Deathstroke-Mentor angle.

Also, the concept of Batman solitary and Joker sadistic can be treated in different ways. So, they can use this indefinitely.

However, the concept of young heroes seeking independence has a limit. The characters have to find new concepts, but DC can not do that (especially since this may clash with Justice League hierarchy).


PS: I don't like the concept of Batman solitary.

[Onthetrapeze]

Because that's what they think their brand is. The most popular story about Titans, teens or otherwise, are either Trigon, Judas Contract, or mentor vs sidekick, so they replay those over on over. Much like how they keep Batman solitary all the time, because the most popular Batman stories are when he's solo like Year One or grim like TDKR. Same reason why they portray Joker getting more and more violent every time, because the most popular Joker stories are the sadistic ones.

They saw certain types of story are the most popular, so they try to shape the characters brand around that. Batman is solitary, Joker is sadistic and Titans are rebel.

Also, DC don't see Titans and Teen Titans as different brands. You can see it in how, whether the team consists of adult or teenager, in any medium, they keep replaying that same Trigon-Deathstroke-Mentor angle.

Sounds like the result of terrible market segmentation. Shame.

[yohyoi]

Solicitations are coming later. I'm not optimistic. It has been downhill the past months.

[Onthetrapeze]

Solicitations are coming later. I'm not optimistic. It has been downhill the past months.

Tomasi said Damian and Nightwing would be in his TEC run. At least we can count on that.

[oasis1313]

Tomasi said Damian and Nightwing would be in his TEC run. At least we can count on that.

Now THAT'S some good news!!!!!!

[Godlike13]

Cool, I’m excited to see Ric panhandling on the streets of Gotham

[DGraysonWorldsGreatestSpy]

Yeah if it’s still Ric I would like it if they left him out of it, it’s a Batman celebration so in today’s current comic book environment Dick Grayson suffers in the presence of Bruce Wayne.

[oasis1313]

Cool, I’m excited to see Ric panhandling on the streets of Gotham

Yeah, he can pretend he's blind. Or maybe he can turn cartwheels and hope that people will put a few pennies in a mason jar if they enjoy watching his tumbles.

[Arsenal]

NIGHTWING #57

written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art by TRAVIS MOORE
cover by CHRIS MOONEYHAM
variant cover by JEFF DEKAL
Destiny…fate…predetermined inevitability… these are all things that Ric Grayson has struggled to reconcile now that he has been given a second chance at life. A life recently unburdened with years of trauma, defeat and struggle when the hero known as Nightwing was shot in the head. Now, Ric must come to terms with who he is, and what kind of hero he wants to be…if he wants to be one at all. And while Ric is content to walk away from the mantle, one woman has been hiding in the shadows, waiting to solidify an identity of her own…an identity tied for all eternity to the clown price of crime…enter The Joker’s Daughter!

[Pohzee]

At least Moore is back?

But for this story so actually I don't care bc I'm not reading it.

[oasis1313]

NIGHTWING #57

written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art by TRAVIS MOORE
cover by CHRIS MOONEYHAM
variant cover by JEFF DEKAL
Destiny…fate…predetermined inevitability… these are all things that Ric Grayson has struggled to reconcile now that he has been given a second chance at life. A life recently unburdened with years of trauma, defeat and struggle when the hero known as Nightwing was shot in the head. Now, Ric must come to terms with who he is, and what kind of hero he wants to be…if he wants to be one at all. And while Ric is content to walk away from the mantle, one woman has been hiding in the shadows, waiting to solidify an identity of her own…an identity tied for all eternity to the clown price of crime…enter The Joker’s Daughter!

#57? We're still waiting for #52 or 53? So this is going on several months out from now; maybe Ric will fall headfirst into a vat of Rogaine.

[Arsenal]

I assume the Ric arc ends once DC has a permanent writer lined up for Nightwing. There’d be no point of establishing a new post Ric status quo until that happens.

[dropkickjake]

Got a link? He say anything specific?