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    Quote Originally Posted by Armor of God View Post
    Joker's Daughter? Really DC? I know people will and have been blaming Lobdell but where's DC in all this? Truth is that garbage characters like her exist because DC pushes everything Joker affiliated to the moon. No character in recent memory has come close to be a trainwreck on her level. Its why Snyder can push stupid characters like the Batman who Laughs who in my opinion is as bad as Joker's daughter or Johns can push stupid concepts like 3 Jokers.
    Lobdell likes her character and is likely the one that pushed to use her in this arc. He has some bizarre fascination with her that I don't understand and he was the last one to write her. She was one of the worst creations of the entire New 52 mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onthetrapeze View Post
    Maybe Ric should be a model...Stop wasting Dick Grayson's ASSets, Ric.
    Now THERE is one thing Nightwing can do that Batman can’t: Rock the best azz in the universe!

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    Speaking of models... look at this... porn version of Batman that Dan Panosian made for an unpublished Batgirl issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badou View Post
    Lobdell likes her character and is likely the one that pushed to use her in this arc. He has some bizarre fascination with her that I don't understand and he was the last one to write her. She was one of the worst creations of the entire New 52 mess.
    Who thought turning Duela into "that" was a good idea? I know she is kinda obscure but that doesn't mean do whatever the hell you want to them. It's always Titans characters that get bastardized, doesn't matter how popular or obscure. If they have even one fan DC won't stop till they are pissed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzetoun View Post
    Yeah, between the Nightwing storyline, the spy war that should have involved Grayson, and changing Jon Kent into what looks like an angry adolescent, February stinks like a dead polecat on a bed of onions. Oh well, I will keep my money. Best message I can send.
    Looks like they're going to get rid of Jon so Bendis' Connor will be the only Superboy. And people gripe about the companies pandering to the customers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    Speaking of models... look at this... porn version of Batman that Dan Panosian made for an unpublished Batgirl issue

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    That is disturbing. WTF is he smirking at? and why is he posing by the door? Is he coming on to her by trying to be Grayson?

    On nightwing DC is trying their very best to get me to drop this. Also really hope Lobdel isn't on this title past 60
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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    That is disturbing. WTF is he smirking at? and why is he posing by the door? Is he coming on to her by trying to be Grayson?

    On nightwing DC is trying their very best to get me to drop this. Also really hope Lobdel isn't on this title past 60
    That was Dick Grayson under the cowl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onthetrapeze View Post
    That was Dick Grayson under the cowl
    Yeah, I was wondering why Batman was smiling. He'd probably get more points with Babs if he took off the stupid cowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onthetrapeze View Post
    That was Dick Grayson under the cowl
    Oh Phew! It was bothersome trying to make sense of what the heck Bruce was playing at.

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    So picking up Nightwing today I realized on the cover it said We Are Nightwing. I think I’m starting to understand what DC is doing here. The amnesia, Copwing, We Are Nightwing, and coming soon Jokers Daughter. The people behind Nightwing and this book are either just so lazy, can’t be bothered, or just that creatively inept to even try to put forth any real effort, creative or otherwise, that they are now just recycling ideas from a few years ago. And not the good ones, but the bad ones that bombed and were for the most part rejected by readers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    Oh Phew! It was bothersome trying to make sense of what the heck Bruce was playing at.
    Bruce is so UN-sexy. Most of the women he dates are just to further his "playboy" image to hide his Batman persona (the person he REALLY is) and he has no actual interest in them; there's nothing less sexy than a man who isn't interested. He's not interested in Bruce Wayne, either, or Bruce Wayne's life; he's just a cypher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    So picking up Nightwing today I realized on the cover it said We Are Nightwing. I think I’m starting to understand what DC is doing here. The amnesia, Copwing, We Are Nightwing, and coming soon Jokers Daughter. The people behind Nightwing and this book are either just so lazy, can’t be bothered, or just that creatively inept to even try to put forth any real effort, creative or otherwise, that they are now just recycling ideas from a few years ago. And not the good ones, but the bad ones that bombed and were for for the most part rejected by readers.
    Kill me please
    It's the Dynamic Duo! Batman and Robin!... and Red Robin and Red Hood and Nightwing and Batwoman and Batgirl and Orphan and Spoiler and Bluebird and Lark and Gotham Girl and Talon and Batwing and Huntress and Azreal and Flamebird and Batcow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis1313 View Post
    Bruce is so UN-sexy. Most of the women he dates are just to further his "playboy" image to hide his Batman persona (the person he REALLY is) and he has no actual interest in them; there's nothing less sexy than a man who isn't interested. He's not interested in Bruce Wayne, either, or Bruce Wayne's life; he's just a cypher.
    Really? I have understood that there are women who think men not interested are sexy (or, at least, sexier than men too interested).

    That said, I feel Bruce is too old to be sexy.


    PS: I realized that I feel that Bruce is old (even although he's 30s), because of Dick. So, DC is partially right about this.

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    I don’t get it.
    All DC has to do is make Bruce 11 years older than Dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearman View Post
    I don’t get it.
    All DC has to do is make Bruce 11 years older than Dick.
    I doesn't matter how old DC establish the characters.

    Based on the relationship between Bruce and Dick, many readers will feel that Bruce is much older that Dick (who is already an adult). That's why DC won't allow to Dick grow more (they will reduce his age).

    DC feel fear that "fans feeling that Bruce is old" is a threat to the popularity of the character (they are probably right at some level).

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