Dick Grayson: Robin, Nightwing, Agent of Spyral Appreciation 2018

[Rac7d*]

Maybe theres at least hope that amnesiac Rick decides that Bludhaven is garbage and moves far far away.

his name not rick

[AJpyro]

I call upon the Night wing, Dick Grayson fans to answer my call: is rebirth a good jump in for Modern Richard Grayson for someone who has read a single night wing issue?

[Grayson - The Dark Heir]

I call upon the Night wing, Dick Grayson fans to answer my call: is rebirth a good jump in for Modern Richard Grayson for someone who has read a single night wing issue?

Definitely. Nightwing: Rebirth #1 is actually more of a transitional issue, so it might be weird to read, but #1 of the run and onward is pretty awesome imo. If you go by volume, it goes:
Vol. 1: Better than Batman
Vol. 2: Back to Bludhaven
Vol. 3: Nightwing Must Die
Vol. 4: Blockbuster
Vol. 5: Raptor's Revenge
Vol. 6: The Untouchable.
I'd also recommend:
Batman Prelude to the Wedding: Nightwing Vs. Hush #1


If you want a feel of what Nightwing was before getting into a whole run, I'd also recommend reading Higgins' final New 52 issues #28 and #29. You can then read #30 and go into the Grayson series which is a fan-favourite run of so many Dick Grayson fans. That's a five volume series itself, and directly leads into Nightwing: Rebirth #1 and the rest of that run.

[Badou]

I just don't get the logic of forcing him out when they could just develop the story naturally. Like, deliberately forcing him out sounds like an extra effort when he's already on the character list.

Snyder's Justice League Whatever's decision to replace Nightwing with Green Arrow makes more sense to me, in story because he's not a member of any team who Brainiac attacked, and out of story because he's a classic League member who hasn't been involved in any League event in a while.

So... I don't know when Heroes in Crisis was planned in relation to Bane's revenge but it makes more sense to me that King realized that if Bane's plan is to break Batman psychologically, on top of getting rid of Catwoman he will get rid of the rest of the family one by one and that's the reason he's written out... or... he wrote in Heroes in Crisis first, realized that logically Nightwing should have more screen time, then decided to expand Bane's revenge to involve Nightwing so he doesn't have to rewrite Heroes in Crisis.

I don't think they view it as forcing him out. This is just what Dick and Nightwing are. He is a disposable piece to be used in Batman's narrative and they don't really care what happens with him afterwards. It isn't bigger than that. It is just convenient that they can give him amnesia and don't have to bother using him in the HiC story when they weren't interested in using him in it when his "place" in the DCU suggests he should be more involved than he is.

And I don't think there is going to be much connection to the Bane story in Batman and the HiC event. I think the HiC event was a story King wanted to tell about heroes dealing with PTSD and the issues with being a hero, but it changed into being more of a formal Crisis event when Didio wanted to make it bigger.

[AJpyro]

Definitely. Nightwing: Rebirth #1 is actually more of a transitional issue, so it might be weird to read, but #1 of the run and onward is pretty awesome imo. If you go by volume, it goes:
Vol. 1: Better than Batman
Vol. 2: Back to Bludhaven
Vol. 3: Nightwing Must Die
Vol. 4: Blockbuster
Vol. 5: Raptor's Revenge
Vol. 6: The Untouchable.
I'd also recommend:
Batman Prelude to the Wedding: Nightwing Vs. Hush #1


If you want a feel of what Nightwing was before getting into a whole run, I'd also recommend reading Higgins' final New 52 issues #28 and #29. You can then read #30 and go into the Grayson series which is a fan-favourite run of so many Dick Grayson fans. That's a five volume series itself, and directly leads into Nightwing: Rebirth #1 and the rest of that run.

Thanks for that. Picked up Better than Batman. Here's hoping for good reads

[Alycat]

his name not rick

So the name change was just a rumor? Ah well, hope the rest of it plays out.

[2nd line g]

What/when was the first Nightwing/Robin/Dick on going series? I know I could google it, but would like to read people’s opinions. I’ve never read a Nightwing book and would like to start at the beginning. Any other recommended runs would also be appreciated!

[Hizashi]

Thanks for that. Picked up Better than Batman. Here's hoping for good reads

Grayson is absolutely worth the read, if you decide you want to read what he was up to before the current Nightwing series.

[Grayson - The Dark Heir]

What/when was the first Nightwing/Robin/Dick on going series? I know I could google it, but would like to read people’s opinions. I’ve never read a Nightwing book and would like to start at the beginning. Any other recommended runs would also be appreciated!

First ever solo stuff? So not including his team-up adventures in Detective Comics and Batman, I think that would be Star-Spangled Comics (it's apparently been collected in two volumes called the Robin Archives).

What you're probably looking for is the first and second series of Nightwing, you can read that with Vol. 1: Bludhaven, then Vol. 2 Rough Justice, and that goes all the way up to Vol. 7: Shrike as of now, Vol. 8: Lethal Force comes out in November.

There's also the newest series following Rebirth, which makes for a great starting point:

Vol. 1: Better than Batman
Vol. 2: Back to Bludhaven
Vol. 3: Nightwing Must Die
Vol. 4: Blockbuster
Vol. 5: Raptor's Revenge
Vol. 6: The Untouchable.
I'd also recommend:
Batman Prelude to the Wedding: Nightwing Vs. Hush #1

If you want a feel for what Nightwing has become in recent times, I'd also recommend reading Higgins' final New 52 issues #28 and #29. You can then read #30 and go into the Grayson series which is a fan-favourite run of so many Dick Grayson fans. That's a five volume series itself, and directly leads into Nightwing: Rebirth #1 and the rest of that run.

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DC Comics website. I wish there's a bigger one

[byrd156]

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DC Comics website. I wish there's a bigger one

Oh boy! As a long time fan this is nothing but exciting for me.

[byrd156]

who would when the story you want to tell could be ripped from under you

That's honestly the scariest thing to me. I hope to get into comic writing one day and I understand editorial mandates but that's all we seem to hear about these days. What was originally intended or what could've been.

[byrd156]

his name not rick

I think the whole Rick fiasco came from the heads at DC wanting the change for however many years and someone seeing the Casablanca reference in Titans with Dick and Miss Martian. I really hope that's it and that they don't try to pull some BS with Lobdell.

[oasis1313]

I don't think they view it as forcing him out. This is just what Dick and Nightwing are. He is a disposable piece to be used in Batman's narrative and they don't really care what happens with him afterwards. It isn't bigger than that. It is just convenient that they can give him amnesia and don't have to bother using him in the HiC story when they weren't interested in using him in it when his "place" in the DCU suggests he should be more involved than he is.

And I don't think there is going to be much connection to the Bane story in Batman and the HiC event. I think the HiC event was a story King wanted to tell about heroes dealing with PTSD and the issues with being a hero, but it changed into being more of a formal Crisis event when Didio wanted to make it bigger.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Didio might have figured out another way to kill Dick Grayson--just exile him from everything and let him wither away.

[byrd156]

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Didio might have figured out another way to kill Dick Grayson--just exile him from everything and let him wither away.

It's a war of attrition. The heads of DC have this stupid notion in their heads that only certain characters can be around instead of everyone. So they kill off, maim, and exile those they don't want away.