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    Quote Originally Posted by Konja7 View Post
    I'm sorry, I was rude.

    You're right. It's fair that you find other cultures and background interesting.

    I just would not use it as an argument for diversity. However, that's just my opinion.
    No worries dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konja7 View Post
    I like Damian with white skin, but keeping his culture.
    Damian doesn't really have a culture.

    If you go by "Birth of the Demon" Ras is not religious, and it is not even really clear if his people were Muslim (they are only shown to sacrifice to demon called Bishu). It is in that story kind of ambiguous what his were, and Ras has basically erased them, their history and their language.


    The League of Assassins is a very international organisation with members all over the world. And Ras himself is in many stories not residing in the middle east.


    And at least in the post Flashpoint continuity Damian didn't grew up in the Middle East but was iirc raised on an Island in the Pacific.

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    I also prefer it when Damian isn't coded white/European/American. Not only because diversity/representation is important (the very existence of Cass was what made me, an Asian girl, want to start reading comics in the first place), but because the Al Ghuls are clearly made up of a bunch of "exotic" motifs plucked from Arab and Asian culture, so if you wanna use our culture and history as set dressing you better at least make the characters brown. lol

    The point about light-skinned POC needing representation is a good one, though. I, personally, am more in favor of him having a little browner skin, though, because 1) without it, most readers assume he's fully white, and 2) with the stigma against dark skin, it's always nice to have a major hero be not so pale. Also, character design wise, it does add variety to the Robins. If you want to make one of them paler and brown-haired, I'd do it with Tim or maybe Jason (if we're going with his ginger incarnation).

    And in terms of culture--it doesn't matter if he grew up on an island or in the mountains or whatever, there's going to be some elements of culture in his life. I don't think the Al Ghuls being religious makes sense because they're basically the head of a cult. They're like their own religion. But I think everyday things like food, clothes, crafts, music, etc. would have roots in Middle Eastern culture. Like Damian wearing a thawb. It makes more sense than if the League had adopted European or American culture, in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybats View Post
    And in terms of culture--it doesn't matter if he grew up on an island or in the mountains or whatever, there's going to be some elements of culture in his life. I don't think the Al Ghuls being religious makes sense because they're basically the head of a cult. They're like their own religion. But I think everyday things like food, clothes, crafts, music, etc. would have roots in Middle Eastern culture. Like Damian wearing a thawb. It makes more sense than if the League had adopted European or American culture, in any case.
    Exactly.

    Culture isn't only about religion. There are many elements of a culture like traditions, food, music, etc. We have seem Damian with some elements of this (I really like these moments).


    As I said, I like Damian with white skin, because he isn't white even then. However, it's true that DC has big problems with the diversity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Its not Bendis that concerns me, but DC. We know how they are in these situations. Like you even bring up, its what DC even did last time they tried to launch a line around them. Regardless if it succeeds or fails, its what DC does in preparation that concerns me. This Chris Kenting of Jon doesnít bode well.

    And Nightwing is probably not long for this world, and honestly the Titans books too i donít see much of a future for.
    I think a year or two might be tough but SC will never abandon the Titans line, Nightwing or Damian. Everything comes back full circle imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybats View Post
    But I think everyday things like food, clothes, crafts, music, etc. would have roots in Middle Eastern culture.
    When I look at Damians up brining, I don't think thats the case.

    He was raised on an isolated island, and a teachers that came from all over the world. If you go by Robin #0 at least his teachers in music and painting seemed to be European.

    And I you look at his weapons and costume there is definitely a stronger Japanese and maybe Chinese Influence.

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    The costume is Persian inspired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armor of God View Post
    The costume is Persian inspired.
    The Robin costume?
    For me it looks like it was more Samurai/Ninja inspired.

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