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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Chappelle is GD ananakin skywalker lol

    You were supposed to destroy the sith! not join them!
    Does that mean that eventually, his son will save him?
    Watching television is not an activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    Well, it does make sense, Chappelle does appeal to "anti-woke" people for lack of a better term, as does Musk, and they're both friends with Joe Rogan.

    Not only that, but kid's a ginger, a literal red haired stepchild.

    The town I grew up in is still pretty segregated along both lines of race and class, I went to the "ghetto" school that had a bad reputation just because it was on the side of town where more black people lived, even though more black kids went to the rival school on the affluent side of town. When I started college in the early 2000's I didn't know how to use email because the only computer access I had was at either the school library and computer lab where they watched us like hawks and the public library which was on the other side of town. I felt like an idiot.
    Musk is basically an attention seeking right-wing activist now. Politics aside, his whole "look at me, I'm so funny and quirky and rich" act is cringe AF.

    There are too many people like that walking around nowadays. It's like being rich and famous isn't enough anymore, these guys want to "run things" and want people to talk about them constantly. I'm not surprised people are booing Musk, the way he screwed out the Tesla founders (he had no hand in founding the company but wants to be credited as founder and screwed out the founders of the company), constantly tries to manipulate Tesla stock, allows the racist and generally poor treatment of Tesla factory workers, and completely bullied, humiliated and treated Twitter workers shows how terrible a person he really is (although, there's been calls for the Silicon Valley guys to unionize but that's an entirely different discussion).

    The problem now is that people like Kanye and Musk are very influential. Instead of using their platform and riches actually to help people, they prefer to say nasty, hateful things just because of their ego. It's disgusting to see. Social media and big tech platforms are so messed up by their algorithms that the most hateful, disgusting things keep getting boosted when you log into them. Youtube shorts are dominated by red-pillers like Andrew Tate and even more extreme anti-semitic excerpts from Kanye West. This is very, very problematic in various ways.

    This is all compounded by the "mainstream media" that really should know better constantly giving these guys airtime instead of ignoring them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    Musk is basically an attention seeking right-wing activist now. Politics aside, his whole "look at me, I'm so funny and quirky and rich" act is cringe AF.

    There are too many people like that walking around nowadays. It's like being rich and famous isn't enough anymore, these guys want to "run things" and want people to talk about them constantly. I'm not surprised people are booing Musk, the way he screwed out the Tesla founders (he had no hand in founding the company but wants to be credited as founder and screwed out the founders of the company), constantly tries to manipulate Tesla stock, allows the racist and generally poor treatment of Tesla factory workers, and completely bullied, humiliated and treated Twitter workers shows how terrible a person he really is (although, there's been calls for the Silicon Valley guys to unionize but that's an entirely different discussion).

    The problem now is that people like Kanye and Musk are very influential. Instead of using their platform and riches actually to help people, they prefer to say nasty, hateful things just because of their ego. It's disgusting to see. Social media and big tech platforms are so messed up by their algorithms that the most hateful, disgusting things keep getting boosted when you log into them. Youtube shorts are dominated by red-pillers like Andrew Tate and even more extreme anti-semitic excerpts from Kanye West. This is very, very problematic in various ways.

    This is all compounded by the "mainstream media" that really should know better constantly giving these guys airtime instead of ignoring them.
    He also didn't really start PayPal either, PayPal absorbed the finance company he founded. Elon is basically a reddit chud that was born at the right time (before the dot.com bubble) and in the right place (everyone knows about the emerald mine), That's why Reddit loved him so much. Robert Downey Jr's Iron Man was modeled after Elon Musk, he was even in the first movie. I remember seeing him on the Colbert Report. He convinced us all he was the new Howard Hughes, but he's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    That's why Reddit loved him so much. .
    Eh, the reddit hivemind started to turned on him long ago and has only gotten louder post twitter buy

    Dudes backed by good ol trump lovers esque conservatives now, especially the younger ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    He also didn't really start PayPal either, PayPal absorbed the finance company he founded. Elon is basically a reddit chud that was born at the right time (before the dot.com bubble) and in the right place (everyone knows about the emerald mine), That's why Reddit loved him so much. Robert Downey Jr's Iron Man was modeled after Elon Musk, he was even in the first movie. I remember seeing him on the Colbert Report. He convinced us all he was the new Howard Hughes, but he's not.
    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Eh, the reddit hivemind started to turned on him long ago and has only gotten louder post twitter buy

    Dudes backed by good ol trump lovers esque conservatives now, especially the younger ones.
    Yeah, I've seen a lot of folks actually turn on him.

    Even the youtube crowd (except the far-right loons) have really turned on him. It's no surprise seeing the way he's behaved lately.

    In other news, that stupid FTX fraud Sam Bankman-Fried has been arrested. They should arrest EVERYONE running FTX.

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    "Momma!" In Takeoff voice, RIP.

    Beefing up the old home security, huh?
    You bet yer ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf View Post
    "Momma!" In Takeoff voice, RIP.

    Please be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    That's it exactly. Their clothes are touching, but their skin is not, as if white skin touching black skin will give the white person "cooties" or something.
    The woman doesn't even have white skin. It's not the color of snow. When I was a kid drawing and coloring, I used the peach and apricot labeled crayons for skin coloring of so-called white people unless I want them having skin like The Joker. I also didn't use the pink crayon for that color would look unnatural for skin coloring.
    Look at animation for Disney's version of Snow White. Her skin color is no way near the color of her collar which is white.
    The fact is that pale colored skin is referred to as white even though it's not actually white.

    The man doesn't have black skin. It's brown. It's the color of chocolate.



    Black and white races are social constructs that have no scientific basis any way. If these social constructs weren't created, there would not be any stupid arguments about people being black and white in regards to anything. Human beings are far too diverse to be pinned down to color names. There is a highly great amount of diversity in Africa alone. Africans have the greatest genetic variation. Africa is an extremely diverse continent with over 2,000 ethnic groups. That includes Nigeria with over 400 ethnic groups. These social constructs of races were created out of ignorance. I stopped believing in the social constructs of the black and white races over 7 years ago.


    The social constructs of the black and white races and the one drop rule are of White Supremacist ideology which stems from ignorance of human genetics and evolution though. 2003 Human Genome Project reported that all us humans are 99.9% genetically similar to each other. There used to be a strong belief in polygenism which posits the view that the human races are of different origins (polygenesis). Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution challenged polygenism. Sub Saharan Africans were thought to have been a different species. They were thought of as being subhumans.




    White or Caucasian was not always considered a unified race composed of anyone of European descent.

    Whiteness was often considered exclusive to Anglo-Saxon descendants while other European groups were broken into different ethnic categories such as "Celt", "Slavs", "Iberics", and "Hebrews" which were considered separate races from the 1840s to the early 20th Century.

    In the 1920s when there was a stemming migration from Europe, different races were subsumed into one category called "whiteness" to shore up a cultural majority against other racial groups and immigrants and this persisted throughout the 20th Century.

    Race started as as a marker of kinship, but then we see it shift to become less about familial inheritance and more focused on physical indicators due to the rise of Enlightenment reasoning and labor exploitation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVxAlmAPHec&t=547s

    I have been into Genetic Genealogy since 2011. The more I read up on genetics of human populations, the more I am convinced that the social constructs of the black and white races are outdated, racist, and stupid.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3BIIIPlahw&t=413s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAWrwexw-To&t=671s

    Africans have more genetic variation than anyone else on Earth.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/african...etic-variation


    I never believed in the one drop rule which is outdated, racist, and stupid.



    According to a 2015 research study, The Genetic Ancestry of African Americans, Latinos, and European Americans across the United States:

    From 23andme database

    African Americans show average proportions of 73.2% African, 24.0% European, and 0.8% Native American ancestry.

    Latinos show average proportions of 65.1% European, 18.0% Native American, and 6.2% African ancestry

    European Americans show average proportions of 98.6% European, 0.19% African, and 0.18% Native American ancestry

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25529636/





    A little elaboration on history of the social constructs of race

    Johann Friedrich Blumenbach divided the human species into five races in 1779, later founded on cranial research (description of human skulls), and called them
    the Caucasian race (Europe, the Caucasus, Asia Minor, North Africa and West Asia)
    the Mongolian race (East Asia, Central Asia and South Asia)
    the Aethiopian race (Sub-Saharan Africa)
    the American race (North America and South America)
    the Malayan race (Southeast Asia)
    These five groups saw some continuity in the various classification schemes of the 19th century, in some cases augmented, e.g. by the Australoid race and the Capoid race in some cases the Mongolian (East Asian) and American collapsed into a single group.

    The "three great races" according to Meyers Konversations-Lexikon of 1885–90.
    The subtypes are:
    Mongoloid race
    Caucasoid race
    Negroid race

    Dravidians and Sinhalese and their classification is described as uncertain
    The Mongoloid race sees the widest geographic distribution, including all of the Americas, North Asia, East Asia, and Southeast Asia, the entire inhabited Arctic while they form most of Central Asia and the Pacific Islands.
    Arthur de Gobineau was a successful diplomat for the Second French Empire. He came to believe that race created culture, arguing that distinctions between the three "black", "white", and "yellow" races were natural barriers, and that "race-mixing" breaks those barriers down and leads to chaos. He classified the populations of the Middle East, Central Asia, the Indian subcontinent, North Africa, and southern France as being racially mixed. Gobineau also believed that the white race was superior to all others. He thought it corresponded to the ancient Indo-European culture, also known as "Aryan".
    According to his definitions, the people of Spain, most of France, most of Germany, southern and western Iran as well as Switzerland, Austria, Northern Italy, and a large part of Britain, consisted of a degenerative race that arose from miscegenation. Also according to him, the whole population of North India consisted of a yellow race.


    In 1939, Charles Coon published The Races of Europe, in which he concluded:
    The Caucasian race is of dual origin consisting of Upper Paleolithic (mixture of Homo sapiens and Neanderthals) types and Mediterranean (purely Homo sapiens) types.
    The Upper Paleolithic peoples are the truly indigenous peoples of Europe.
    Mediterraneans invaded Europe in large numbers during the Neolithic period and settled there.
    The racial situation in Europe today may be explained as a mixture of Upper Paleolithic survivors and Mediterraneans.
    When reduced Upper Paleolithic survivors and Mediterraneans mix, then occurs the process of dinarization, which produces a hybrid with non-intermediate features.
    The Caucasian race encompasses the regions of Europe, Central Asia, South Asia, the Near East, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa.
    The Nordic race is part of the Mediterranean racial stock, being a mixture of Corded and Danubian Mediterraneans.
    In 1962, Coon also published The Origin of Races, wherein he offered a definitive statement of the polygenist view. Coon divided humanity into five races and believed that each race had ascended the ladder of human evolution at different rates.
    Since Coon followed the traditional methods of physical anthropology, relying on morphological characteristics, and not on the emerging genetics to classify humans, the debate over Origin of Races has been "viewed as the last gasp of an outdated scientific methodology that was soon to be supplanted."

    Charles Darwin concluded that the biological similarities between the different races were "too great" for the polygenist thesis to be plausible. He also used the idea of races to argue for the continuity between humans and animals, noting that it would be highly implausible that man should, by mere accident acquire characteristics shared by many apes.

    In The Descent of Man, Darwin noted the great difficulty naturalists had in trying to decide how many "races" there actually were:
    Man has been studied more carefully than any other animal, and yet there is the greatest possible diversity amongst capable judges whether he should be classed as a single species or race, or as two (Virey), as three (Jacquinot), as four (Kant), five (Blumenbach), six (Buffon), seven (Hunter), eight (Agassiz), eleven (Pickering), fifteen (Bory St. Vincent), sixteen (Desmoulins), twenty-two (Morton), sixty (Crawfurd), or as sixty-three, according to Burke. This diversity of judgment does not prove that the races ought not to be ranked as species, but it shews that they graduate into each other, and that it is hardly possible to discover clear distinctive characters between them.


    Charles Darwin's ideas have been discounted by people in his time period because he believed in Abolitionism.
    I believe that people that advocate and/or defend the social constructs of the races are part of the problem with racism.


    The racial categories Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid are actually considered obsolete racial classification of human beings based on a now-disproven theory of biological race.
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    The following AABA Statement on Race & Racism was written by the AABA subcommittee tasked with revising the previous AABA statement on the Biological Aspects of Race that was published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, vol. 101, pp 569-570, 1996. The Committee on Diversity (COD) subcommittee was comprised of (in alpha order): Rebecca Ackermann, Sheela Athreya, Deborah Bolnick, Agustín Fuentes (chair), Tina Lasisi, Sang-Hee Lee, Shay-Akil McLean, and Robin Nelson.
    The statement was unanimously accepted by the AABA Executive Committee at its meeting on March 27, 2019 at the 88th Annual Meeting in Cleveland, Ohio.

    This statement can be downloaded as a PDF file here.
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    Executive Summary: AABA Statement on Race and Racism

    Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation. It was never accurate in the past, and it remains inaccurate when referencing contemporary human populations. Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or racial genetic clusters. Instead, the Western concept of race must be understood as a classification system that emerged from, and in support of, European colonialism, oppression, and discrimination. It thus does not have its roots in biological reality, but in policies of discrimination. Because of that, over the last five centuries, race has become a social reality that structures societies and how we experience the world. In this regard, race is real, as is racism, and both have real biological consequences.

    Humans share the vast majority (99.9%) of our DNA in common. Individuals nevertheless exhibit substantial genetic and phenotypic variability. Genome/environment interactions, local and regional biological changes through time, and genetic exchange among populations have produced the biological diversity we see in humans today. Notably, variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasize in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type. No group of people is, or ever has been, biologically homogeneous or “pure.” Furthermore, human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed.

    While race does not accurately represent the patterns of human biological diversity, an abundance of scientific research demonstrates that racism, prejudice against someone because of their race and a belief in the inherent superiority and inferiority of different racial groups, affects our biology, health, and well-being. This means that race, while not a scientifically accurate biological concept, can have important biological consequences because of the effects of racism. The belief in races as a natural aspect of human biology and the institutional and structural inequities (racism) that have emerged in tandem with such beliefs in European colonial contexts are among the most damaging elements in human societies.

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    DAmn, Twitch killed himself.

    I vividly remember watching this dance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLtSfYX8tJk


    back in the day with my wife (ahh the days before streaming)

    ooof
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    On various social media, I have seen come people use genetic tests to use as analysis and confirmation of particular racial makeup even though the genetic tests aren't for that. Geographical regions have nothing to do with race.

    White and black races are social constructs without any scientific basis. Race is a social construct. It has no biological basis. Genetic Research shows that all of us Homo Sapiens are 99.9% similar to each other. The concept of white and black races stem from White Supremacy. Race used to be more about kinship, but then it became about physical traits as the result of labor exploitation and Enlightenment reasoning. I stopped believing in the social constructs of the black and white races over 7 years ago. I never believed in the one drop rule which is outdated, racist, and stupid. Even though I am around half Sub Saharan African, I never identified as black nor African American. I always despised the one drop rule, but I have grown to despise the social constructs of the black and white races.

    I am of highly mixed ancestry. Maybe I incarnated as a very mixed person to not only believe that there should be unity and universal love but also to challenge the social constructs of race. Therefore, I don't fit in any of the racial categories. I identified as multiracial/multiethnic for the last 3 US Censuses. I have never believed in the one drop rule. I never identified as black nor African American.



    My 23andme Ancestry Composition has me as being

    49.7% Sub Saharan African
    47.5% European
    1.7% Indigenous American
    0.6% West Asian
    0.3% Chinese/Southeast Asian
    0.2% Unassigned


    parental inheritance derived from my DNA phasing between my mother's DNA and my DNA

    Sub Saharan African: 43.4% is paternal, 6.3% is maternal
    European: 43.2% is maternal, 4.3% is paternal
    Indigenous American: 1.0% is maternal, 0.7% is paternal
    West Asian: 0.6% is maternal
    Chinese/Southeast Asian: 0.3% is paternal
    Unassigned: 0.2% is maternal


    My mother is mostly European (86.3%) with some Sub Saharan African (10.1%) with a little Indigenous American (1.9%). She has peach colored skin that fits anywhere in Europe, and she can tan. My father was mostly Sub Saharan African with some European with a little Indigenous American. He had chocolate brown skin that would fit quite well in the Sub Saharan regions of Africa. My tan skin is like a blending of my parents' skin colors, and I can get as dark as my father if I stay out in the sunlight for a long period of time.



    I am so multiethnic that I am related to many of my fellow Americans in many different ways.

    My Genealogical family lines
    https://diversegenes.blogspot.com/20...ily-lines.html



    My Genealogical Ancestry

    I am a 4th generation Californian on my mother's side, and my father was a 7th generation Louisianan.


    paternal grandfather: African American born in Louisiana

    paternal grandmother's father: African American born in Southern Louisiana
    other roots in Virginia, South Carolina, and Kentucky

    paternal grandmother's mother: African American with English and Acadian (French in what now known as Nova Scotia) born in Southern Louisiana
    colonial roots in Louisiana, Virginia, and North Carolina

    maternal grandfather's father: American born in California and son of immigrants from Cape Verde (Portuguese and Sub Saharan African)

    maternal grandfather's mother: American born in California with a father from Puerto Rico (Spanish, Sub Saharan African, and Taino) and a mother that was a Hawaiian daughter of immigrants from Madeira (Portuguese with Sub Saharan African)

    maternal grandmother's father: European American born in Oregon of mainly English ancestry with German, Swiss, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, and Frisian
    colonial roots in Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, and Rhode Island
    other roots in Missouri, Kansas, Alabama, Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana

    maternal grandmother's mother: Ashkenazi Jewish American born in Nebraska with a father born in Romania and a mother born in Courland (in what is now known as Latvia) in Russian Empire


    Because of the Transatlantic Slave trade, I don't know anything about my Sub Saharan African ancestry, but I am sure that it's mainly from West Africa. Most of the Sub Saharan African slaves were brought from West Africa. Africa has over 2,000 ethnic groups, and that includes Nigeria having over 400 ethnic groups. My Sub Saharan African ancestry is highly likely to consist of many Sub Saharan African ethnic groups. I don't know what kind of Indigenous American ancestry that I have on my father's side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    DAmn, Twitch killed himself.

    I vividly remember watching this dance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLtSfYX8tJk


    back in the day with my wife (ahh the days before streaming)

    ooof
    Yup! As I said elsewhere, this one hit me hard! I've been a fan since So You Think You Can Dance Season 4.

    And of course, Umar Johnson takes this opportunity to be disgusting, suggesting it wasn't really suicide but that his wife did it. 3 guesses as to why he'd say that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    DAmn, Twitch killed himself.

    I vividly remember watching this dance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLtSfYX8tJk


    back in the day with my wife (ahh the days before streaming)

    ooof
    Damn, didn't know him and I damn sure didnt watch Ellen but I have seen those Old Navy commercials. That brotha was barley 40. Idk man, distressing. The trappings of fame? That's too bad, RIP.
    Beefing up the old home security, huh?
    You bet yer ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    DAmn, Twitch killed himself.

    I vividly remember watching this dance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLtSfYX8tJk


    back in the day with my wife (ahh the days before streaming)

    ooof
    This is so sad.

    People should really check on their friends. We don’t know what people are really going through in their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
    Yup! As I said elsewhere, this one hit me hard! I've been a fan since So You Think You Can Dance Season 4.

    And of course, Umar Johnson takes this opportunity to be disgusting, suggesting it wasn't really suicide but that his wife did it. 3 guesses as to why he'd say that...
    Umar Johnson is a complete lunatic.

    Umar Johnson is one of those crazy ho-tep guys.

    It must be noted that there’s direct pipeline between the extreme right and the ho-tep stuff. That’s not to say all ho-tep guys are, just that a lot of people that start off in one space find themselves in the other.

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