Minorities in Comics and Other Media, etc

[Anthony Shaw]

well, I think a lot of his stuff would be toned down if written today though.

Plus, the bastard kids he murdered were trying to kill him lol. The teenage sidekick thing definitely wouldn't exist this day and age (still have no idea why writers are so obsessed with that). It would make sense that a character that is practically immortal wouldn't marry and might have kids here and there through the centuries.,

I think modernized a touch, black logan would be cool. Just don't take away all his warts... that is what makes him interesting.

I don't think Logan is ever meant to be a full samurai. Every hero needs an endgame that they will never see to full fruition in serialized fiction (unless he's gonna retire or die). It is the attempts under duress that makes a hero interesting.

[Anthony Shaw]

I still believe that the ninja turtles are the only mutants worth caring about, and the Elephantmen if they count. The X-men are a bunch of pretty people who sulk in a mansion all day when they're not hooking up. It's MTV's Real World with Superpowers. I think the Hulk and She-Hulk being black would be interesting. Could play up the whole angry black man/woman stereotype.

Edit: Im not sure about Namor, he has a history of lusting over blonde haired, blue eyed white women, I mean everyone came on to Sue at one point but Namor never quit.

Look up Jack Johnson, the boxer. Johnson was full of swag, and loved the snow bunnies.

[Anthony Shaw]

I think people underestimate the strength of Reed Richard's love hand.

Reed don't sweat none of those dirty macks trying to push up on Sue.

Reed does his thing knowing full well Sue is going nowhere.

That is game.

[MindofShadow]

I think people underestimate the strength of Reed Richard's love hand.

Reed don't sweat none of those dirty macks trying to push up on Sue.

Reed does his thing knowing full well Sue is going nowhere.

That is game.

big dick energy lol

[Anthony Shaw]

The FF member that is lacking, to me, is Johnny.

Not only does his ladies shake him, but they often immediately hook up with someone else.

I can see if she wants to be alone (and find herself), nope, she runs off with/falls for another man. Almost every time.

I can't blame Johnny when Frankie Raye ran off with Galactus. When a god chooses your gal....not much you can do.

Regardless of Ben's appearance, some lady (who is far from ugly) will hold deep affection towards him.

Reed & Ben are good.

But Johnny.....

[Overhazard]

Johnny fancies himself a ladies man, but dude got dumped for Quicksilver, Quick. Silver.

[Agent Z]

Damn. Would this mean I'd have to give Moses Magnum back?

What do you mean?

[Agent Z]

I honestly could not handle Wolverine being black. Perhaps the 1980's Wolverine could work as black. The guy who tried to live like a Samurai is my favorite version. But since the 1990's, writers have added too many contradictory traits to Logan.

Logan seems too much like a blatant white male power fantasy to me.

I could not handle a black Logan binge-drinking, pushing up on women in committed relationships, attacking allies over slights, having underage female sidekicks, a graveyard full of murdered lovers, whoring around, and perhaps worst of all......having a slew of bastard offspring that he went on to murder.

Cyclops as a black man could work for me.

Namor kinda reminds me of legendary boxer Jack Johnson.

It's possible to have a black Logan and leave out most of the problematic stuff.

I do find the "live like a samurai" thing pretty funny given real-life samurai weren't much better than Logan.

[Agent Z]

Reed needs better super powers to keep men away from Sue

Ain't no one scared of him at all lol

There's a scene in Heroes Reborn Fantastic Four were Reed is offered a part in a porn film but turns it down. Sue comments that now no-one but her will ever know the real reason he's called Mr Fantastic.

Speaking of FF, I once joked that the reason Sue wasn't black in the recent film was because a black woman whose powers are being invisible and putting up barriers to defend herself might have been too on the nose.

[PwrdOn]

The entire point of the X-Men is to give privileged white kids a vessel through which they can see themselves as the oppressed outcasts that nobody understands. Making them minorities would kind of defeat the purpose of that, plus people don't necessary need a fictional outlet to experience prejudice when they have enough of that in their actual lives, better to read some stories that show them doing something positive and succeeding instead.

[Agent Z]

The entire point of the X-Men is to give privileged white kids a vessel through which they can see themselves as the oppressed outcasts that nobody understands. Making them minorities would kind of defeat the purpose of that, plus people don't necessary need a fictional outlet to experience prejudice when they have enough of that in their actual lives, better to read some stories that show them doing something positive and succeeding instead.

That might have been the original point but it doesn't have to be that way.

Also, experiencing prejudice and doing something positive are not mutually exclusive.

[Killerbee911]

Wolverine, easy, He'd be a slave. His origin fits too well



change it to illegitmate son of slave owner and slave



I mean.. come on! fits too well

When he "snaps" and his mutation manifest, it can be because of his mom getting abused again.

Even the experimented on thing fits. He could also bounce between wars easier due ot how blacks were segregated... his "exploits" in war wouldn't be widespread knowledge

That is kinda brilliant, I was working on short story that is my take on the X-men. And my Wolverine like long living character who was originally "Yasuke" who was slave then went on show up in different eras. The experiment thing fits and you have a real life event like Tuskegee Syphilis incident to tie into it.

[KOSLOX]

The entire point of the X-Men is to give privileged white kids a vessel through which they can see themselves as the oppressed outcasts that nobody understands. Making them minorities would kind of defeat the purpose of that, plus people don't necessary need a fictional outlet to experience prejudice when they have enough of that in their actual lives, better to read some stories that show them doing something positive and succeeding instead.

Yeah, we know. We've commented on it a million times. This is a thought exercise.

[MindofShadow]

I don't play video games hardcore... (im still finishing HZD lol). I do everything like 2 years late it seems

But umm... did that Avengers trailer look kinda... shitty as hell?

It looks like it needed to come out in 2015 lol

[MindofShadow]

That is kinda brilliant, I was working on short story that is my take on the X-men. And my Wolverine like long living character who was originally "Yasuke" who was slave then went on show up in different eras. The experiment thing fits and you have a real life event like Tuskegee Syphilis incident to tie into it.

Change Sabertooth to the slave owning dude from Alabama and **** gets reaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly interesting