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    SW trilogy is just so... unplanned.

    That starts at the top with KK.

    Its not even on pace for a billion right now. Heads will roll
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    SW trilogy is just so... unplanned.

    That starts at the top with KK.

    Its not even on pace for a billion right now. Heads will roll
    What exactly has Kathleen Kennedy done right? I'm seriously starting to wonder now.

    Then I found this. Of note, this part:
    "The report notes that Disney is considering hiring another woman as her replacement, at least in part so it’s not accused of mistreating women in power. Again, this is just a rumor for the time being, but it does make sense, considering the fan backlash following The Last Jedi, and especially The Rise of Skywalker, as well as the Solo flop."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Grey View Post
    What exactly has Kathleen Kennedy done right? I'm seriously starting to wonder now.

    Then I found this. Of note, this part:
    "The report notes that Disney is considering hiring another woman as her replacement, at least in part so it’s not accused of mistreating women in power. Again, this is just a rumor for the time being, but it does make sense, considering the fan backlash following The Last Jedi, and especially The Rise of Skywalker, as well as the Solo flop."
    Well, TFA renewed interest in SW movies and TLJ was the highest grossing movie of 2017 despite the fan backlash . The only blunder she seems to have on her record is Solo and maybe TROS but we'll have to see how this pans out.

    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    SW trilogy is just so... unplanned.

    That starts at the top with KK.

    Its not even on pace for a billion right now. Heads will roll
    People forget the original trilogy wasn't planned either. The only SW movie trilogy that was planned was the prequels.

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    To be fair Disney and Kennedy has watched complete chaos reign over Star Wars. Unlike Kevin Feige who has built a kingdom of the Marvel Film universe with 99% good films and earnings ; Star Wars hasn't had that. In fact Feige seems to let his directors have power to do the film they want to do. He never steps in to screw with the vision the Russo brothers or anyone seems to have for the films.

    Kennedy meanwhile has let executives fire directors off films halfway through twice (Rogue One and Solo). She fired a director who was working on Rise of Skywalker and wouldn't approve a script he had worked on a few times. The people she had set to do films (the Game of Thrones creators were set to do a new Star Wars trilogy and that went to hell) and would watch them leave.

    The biggest issue Kennedy can't seem to get out of her own way and has screwed a billion dollar franchise.
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    Why are women with power always so eager to flex it?

    God, I feel like an asshole for even asking it, but it always seems like whenever there's an executive board, the ones to dread/beware are the female minority like Kathleen Kennedy. They're ruthless and obsessed with control. If you don't bow to their vision, you get pressed into a stamp. Not that there aren't many, many males who are the same way, but the women dictators just stand out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome men don't lose fights View Post
    Why are women with power always so eager to flex it?

    God, I feel like an asshole for even asking it, but it always seems like whenever there's an executive board, the ones to dread/beware are the female minority like Kathleen Kennedy. They're ruthless and obsessed with control. If you don't bow to their vision, you get pressed into a stamp. Not that there aren't many, many males who are the same way, but the women dictators just stand out.
    You answered your own question. There is no difference. They just stand out cause their rarer.

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    Kelly Marie Tran's reduced role in The Rise of Skywalker has drawn criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome men don't lose fights View Post
    Why are women with power always so eager to flex it?

    God, I feel like an asshole for even asking it, but it always seems like whenever there's an executive board, the ones to dread/beware are the female minority like Kathleen Kennedy. They're ruthless and obsessed with control. If you don't bow to their vision, you get pressed into a stamp. Not that there aren't many, many males who are the same way, but the women dictators just stand out.
    You are NOT being an asshole for asking that. Because it happens. Every case (and this applies to MEN too) is different.

    What exactly has Kathleen Kennedy done right? I'm seriously starting to wonder now.

    The biggest issue Kennedy can't seem to get out of her own way and has screwed a billion dollar franchise.
    This is her since 2015
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens (producer, 2015)
    The BFG (executive producer, 2016)
    The Girl on the Train (uncredited executive producer, 2016)
    Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (producer, 2016)
    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (producer, 2017)
    Solo: A Star Wars Story (producer, 2018)
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (producer, 2019)

    4 "hits" & 2 flops.
    Her resume says she knows what she is doing as she has a LOT of success. She basically got F-U money.

    Then you look at the franchise as a WHOLE-we did not see all this backlash to OTHER characters in the expanded universe. Yet a black Storm Trooper and an Asian woman set the man babies off.

    Why is that an issue here? Because legit concerns can not be addressed with them crying and attacking folks. Because nothing is stopping Disney from using them as scapegoats. So nothing get fixed because they can't STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    You are NOT being an asshole for asking that. Because it happens. Every case (and this applies to MEN too) is different.



    This is her since 2015
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens (producer, 2015)
    The BFG (executive producer, 2016)
    The Girl on the Train (uncredited executive producer, 2016)
    Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (producer, 2016)
    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (producer, 2017)
    Solo: A Star Wars Story (producer, 2018)
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (producer, 2019)

    4 "hits" & 2 flops.
    Her resume says she knows what she is doing as she has a LOT of success. She basically got F-U money.

    Then you look at the franchise as a WHOLE-we did not see all this backlash to OTHER characters in the expanded universe. Yet a black Storm Trooper and an Asian woman set the man babies off.

    Why is that an issue here? Because legit concerns can not be addressed with them crying and attacking folks. Because nothing is stopping Disney from using them as scapegoats. So nothing get fixed because they can't STFU.
    Its not the trolls that have killed this franchise for Disney right now...its Kennedy's own leadership. Bouncing directors off films twice (Rogue One and Solo) hasn't helped Disney's reputation here.

    Then she never would approve the directors script for this one after months and he walked. Then she would claim they really had no source material to make the films. (There is a 30+ year history of comics and novels to do any stort possible).

    I think Kennedy was under so much pressure to make this franchise as successful as Marvel film universe. To make it be a huge $$$ machine. And the pressure led to bad decisions.


    The next person in charge needs a total fucking reboot now. The big success people rave over is The Mandarleron on Disney+. Reboot the entire SW concept and series back to square one.

    Do not rush anymore films out...in fact give Star Wars a breather til 2023 and claim its being rebooted. But you have to bench Kennedy...its clear she failed this and its left complete chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    Rose's sister-what a WASTE-she gets a toy and gets axed in less than 10 minutes? Too many folks were wasted in that movie getting killed off so quick.
    Not sure what your complaint here is. Plenty of Star Wars characters get toys that don't even have lines and only a few seconds of screen time. As a kid I had figures of almost all the bounty hunters from Empire, an ugnaught, a couple of Bespin guards...the list goes on lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    The next person in charge needs a total fucking reboot now. The big success people rave over is The Mandarleron on Disney+. Reboot the entire SW concept and series back to square one.

    Do not rush anymore films out...in fact give Star Wars a breather til 2023 and claim its being rebooted. But you have to bench Kennedy...its clear she failed this and its left complete chaos.
    A total reboot is definitely NOT happening. As you said Mandalorian is a success so it goes without saying that is not being scrapped. Hell, they are filming season 2 right now. There are also Obi-Wan and Cassian Andor mini-series in the works.

    I agree about not rushing films out, and they've said they are taking a break. IMO it was a mistake to do the "one Star Wars film a year" thing they tried. This trilogy should've been the only movies with the year break in between them to help build anticipation. Then they could do the 'A Star Wars Story' thing (though Solo shouldn't have been made at all, IMO).
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    Im sick to my stomach. As of tonight, there have been nine major anti semitic attacks in new York within a span of 1 week

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    Quote Originally Posted by G. Boney View Post
    Not sure what your complaint here is. Plenty of Star Wars characters get toys that don't even have lines and only a few seconds of screen time. As a kid I had figures of almost all the bounty hunters from Empire, an ugnaught, a couple of Bespin guards...the list goes on lol.
    I had Lobot.



    I'd like to think if Solo was successful, he would have been the next Star Wars character to get a spinoff movie.

    Lobot: A Star Wars Story

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    I will knock K. Kennedy for not having a clear vision. But I don't believe Lucas had one either no matter what he says.

    I will say that if you are going to make a Star Wars movie every year, the least you could do is open up the damn lore a bit.

    They could have given us a story about X wing fighter pilots, or what it's like from a Stormtrooper's point of view or what would happen if a droid ever started thinking of itself as having free will(Solo just played with the concept but did nothing with the idea).

    Instead we got five prequel movies that answer questions that arguably nobody had ever asked. I know I never wanted to know where Han Solo got his name from or how the Emperor got his job or how the rebels got the plans to the 1st Death Star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryphon View Post
    Im sick to my stomach. As of tonight, there have been nine major anti semitic attacks in new York within a span of 1 week
    There isn't a large Jewish community where I live so I don't hear about this often. Are these attacks related, or is it just a string of separate attacks?
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