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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    bruh cosby is free lol
    And Jeff Epstein mysteriously died in Ryker's.

    BTW, Gaetz's investigation is still ongoing.

    And to prosecute Elvis you'd need a victim willing to press charges, a DA and a time machine ( or a Voodoo Wizard to bring him back from the dead).

    Let's not pretend that you couldn't make up a complete basketball team beach and starters with the amount of victims that had pressed charges against R. Kelly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    And Jeff Epstein mysteriously died in Ryker's.

    BTW, Gaetz's investigation is still ongoing.

    And to prosecute Elvis you'd need a victim willing to press charges, a DA and a time machine ( or a Voodoo Wizard to bring him back from the dead).

    Let's not pretend that you couldn't make up a complete basketball team beach and starters with the amount of victims that had pressed charges against R. Kelly.

    Yeah, a lot of these dudes are straight trash

    but their are levels to this lol. RK on a whole other level and he still got away with it for decades
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Shaw View Post
    We live in strange times. You have folks judging Smith & Rock, yet consider Kyle Rittenhouse a hero.
    Ill give you three guesses why.

    Remember that song from the kids show a few years back

    "One of these thing isnt like the other, one of these things inst the same."

    Rittenhouse to many nutjobs and racists stood up for the country protected lives and property.

    There were a lot of people who didnt want diversity at the Oscars to start with. In their minds Will Smith and Chris Rock ruined the yearly "Rich white people patting themselves on the back party."
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    What is the biggest load of crap is how people are screaming about protecting the integrity of The Oscars and the Academy think they should take Will Smith's Oscar away yet say nothing about Harvey W and Roman P keeping theirs.

    I guess losing your cool and slapping someone is a bigger threat to the Academy then sexual assault and rape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    What is the biggest load of crap is how people are screaming about protecting the integrity of The Oscars and the Academy think they should take Will Smith's Oscar away yet say nothing about Harvey W and Roman P keeping theirs.

    I guess losing your cool and slapping someone is a bigger threat to the Academy then sexual assault and rape.
    Actually the response of the Academy is directly related to the Weinstein issue. You are the one insisting on a double standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xheight View Post
    Actually the response of the Academy is directly related to the Weinstein issue. You are the one insisting on a double standard.
    Directly related to? Reacting by going after someone else. If they take Will Smith's Oscar away for his actions they have to take Weinstein and Roman P away as well. Roman Polanski, who pleaded guilty to statutory rape still has his. How is that a double standard? Take away a mans because he slapped someone but let a rapist keep theirs? Sounds like a double standard alright and not on my part.

    My question to you since you say I have double standards. What reason do people have for wanting to take Smith's Oscar away and letting the other two keep theirs? Is what Smith did in their minds the same or worse then what the other two did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Directly related to? Reacting by going after someone else. If they take Will Smith's Oscar away for his actions they have to take Weinstein and Roman P away as well. How is that a double standard? Take away a mans because he slapped someone but let a rapist keep theirs? Sounds like a double standard alright and not on my part.
    Because the basic understanding is that rules are created before people are accused of breaking them not retroactively. The Academy revised its rules because of Weinstein. Maybe in Liberal LALA land you go back a rewrite history to your liking or go and tear down stuff you don't agree with now but that is not lawful justice. Sorry but it just isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xheight View Post
    Because the basic understanding is that rules are created before people are accused of breaking them not retroactively. The Academy revised its rules because of Weinstein. Maybe in Liberal LALA land you go back a rewrite history to your liking or go and tear down stuff you don't agree with now but that is not lawful justice. Sorry but it just isn't.
    So you are defending a rapist keeping their Oscars but are fine with a Smith losing his because of what? A rule that they wrote that they can easily rewirte but dont. Just because Smith slapped someone. Get out of here with that crap.

    I guess it is a very liberal thing to not want to celebrate a rapist and sex offender. Your right. How dare us.
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    It doesnt take an act of Congress to change the rules of the Academy. They could easily go "Anyone convicted of a violent crime such as rape and sexual assault will have their Oscar revoked." Very simple. Very easy. I find it funny that being concvicted of such crimes does not hurt the integrity of the Academy but slapping a man over a bad joke is the line you cant cross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    So you are defending a rapist keeping their Oscars but are fine with a Smith losing his because of what? A rule that they wrote that they can easily rewirte but dont. Just because Smith slapped someone. Get out of here with that crap.

    I guess it is a very liberal thing to not want to celebrate a rapist and sex offender. Your right. How dare us.
    Again you are retroactively applying a standard, that's the kind of stuff that was done during the Chinese cultural revolution accusing people of crimes that did NOT exist at the time when they were supposedly committed. Loaded terms like " rapist and sex offender" are culturally adjusted. By your standard all marriages that ever happened under 18 would be considered rape and sex offenses. Or perhaps even some who had once driven on a highway at 60 mph that is now 55 should all get mailed tickets ?

    NEW YORK – The Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Science announced Wednesday that it has adopted its first code of conduct for its 8,427 members.

    Film academy chief executive Dawn Hudson introduced the new rules to members in an email. In October, the academy broke with tradition and made Harvey Weinstein just the second person ever expelled from the Oscars' governing body.

    The new code of conduct stipulates that the academy is no place for "people who abuse their status, power or influence in a manner that violates standards of decency."

    The academy's board may now suspend or expel those who violate the code of conduct or who "compromise the integrity" of the academy.
    Published December 7, 2017 9:58am EST
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xheight View Post
    Again you are retroactively applying a standard, that's the kind of stuff that was done during the Chinese cultural revolution accusing people of crimes that did NOT exist at the time when they were supposedly committed. Loaded terms like " rapist and sex offender" are culturally adjusted. By your standard all marriages that ever happened under 18 would be considered rape and sex offenses. Or perhaps even some who had once driven on a highway at 60 mph that is now 55 should all get mailed tickets ?

    Published December 7, 2017 9:58am EST
    Roman P pled guilty. Harvey W is sitting in jail right now. So it is not a case of accusing them of crimes that did not exist when they were committed. They plead guilty or were found guilty. So those are real crimes.

    Grea tthey expelled him from their governing body. The pact his both men still have their Oscars despite having been convicted or admitting to sex crimes, while people are yelling like mad for Smith to lose his over slapping someone.

    And a term like rapist is not culturally adjusted. When you force yourself on someone lime Harvey W did more then once it is rape. Not some buzz word created by the media. he was convicted in a court of law. That is a legal definition. Not a liberal talking point.
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    Go tell their victims you can use the words rapist and sex offender because they are culturally adjusted. Yes Weinstein was convicted of rape he forced himself on woman for man years. But you cant call him a rapist because you know they are culturally adjusted terms.

    I guess we cant call Ted Bundy a murder.

    And that is the most batshit grasping a straw thing I have ever seen. Comparing a speeder to a rapist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Roman P pled guilty. Harvey W is sitting in jail right now. So it is not a case of accusing them of crimes that did not exist when they were committed. They plead guilty or were found guilty. So those are real crimes.

    Grea tthey expelled him from their governing body. The pact his both men still have their Oscars despite having been convicted or admitting to sex crimes, while people are yelling like mad for Smith to lose his over slapping someone.

    And a term like rapist is not culturally adjusted. When you force yourself on someone lime Harvey W did more then once it is rape. Not some buzz word created by the media. he was convicted in a court of law. That is a legal definition. Not a liberal talking point.
    You are talkin about different jurisdictions so just keep shifting the goal posts. First you said the academy now it is some sort of other body.. Newsflash there is no universal law that exists from time immemorial. Slapping labels on broad things does not codify anything it is simply excuse making to go after people that you feel right now should be gone after.

    As to rape - did you see the film Last Duel ? There is a time when no does not always mean no. Modern standards or last weeks standard is not a case for crime no matter how universalist you want to pretend it is. And that is what it is pretend, where a segment of a society says this is the reality to validate some feeling. When is killing someone not murder? plenty of examples so your Bundy BS is not about categories but a particular case which is what really needs to be standard for EVERY case. Smith was wrong to use a public forum to use violence to attack free speech and his state of mind should not be brought into it as an excuse. That is my take. The Academy has its rules now and should decide if he should remain a member and those rules have nothing to do with retro actively taking away awards.

    He pleaded guilty to unlawful sex with a minor in exchange for dropping drug, rape and sodomy charges.
    Polanski agreed to pay Geimer over $600,000 to settle a lawsuit in 1993.
    We should not confuse law with reality either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xheight View Post
    You are talkin about different jurisdictions so just keep shifting the goal posts. First you said the academy now it is some sort of other body.. Newsflash there is no universal law that exists from time immemorial. Slapping labels on broad things does not codify anything it is simply excuse making to go after people that you feel right now should be gone after.

    As to rape - did you see the film Last Duel ? There is a time when no does not always mean no. Modern standards or last weeks standard is not a case for crime no matter how universalist you want to pretend it is. And that is what it is pretend, where a segment of a society says this is the reality to validate some feeling.
    No there is no time when No does not equal no no matter what a movie says. Rape is rape end of story. Calling Rape a culturally adjusted term is disgusting beyond belief. Doesnt matter what body or jurisdiction. Convicted and admitted to it in a court of law. The Academy does not take away the Oscars of convicted rapists legal term not a culture term. And yet are talking about taking it away from a guy who slapped someone and by the way is not even facing charges for it.

    The woman who said no. Wel, they did say yes after they were threatened to never work again and be black listed so I guess they really want it after all. And hey this stuff happened decades ago. So it is clearly not rape because that is a modern cultural term.

    a 13 year old girl who was given champagne and sedatives given to her by a 43 year old man is not a victim. She may have said yes at one point, and rape year it is a cultural term so she is not the victim of anything. It was a different age in 1977. And hey it is not like he went to jail or anything. never mind that he fled the country like a scared rabbit to keep from going to jail.

    Im done with this. You can defend rapists all you want. it is sick and says a lot about you as a human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    bruh cosby is free lol
    I can't think about Cosby without off the wall conspiracies coming to mind. His accusations go back to the early 1970's.

    I'm not sure what took so long to send him to trial.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    And Jeff Epstein mysteriously died in Ryker's.

    BTW, Gaetz's investigation is still ongoing.

    And to prosecute Elvis you'd need a victim willing to press charges, a DA and a time machine ( or a Voodoo Wizard to bring him back from the dead).

    Let's not pretend that you couldn't make up a complete basketball team beach and starters with the amount of victims that had pressed charges against R. Kelly.
    With Jeff, they gotta keep the perverted elites safe.

    Matt has been under investigation for a long time. He has a paper trail showing his guilt, yet no sense of any imminent arrest.

    No need to prosecute Elvis, just post his marriage certificate to Priscilla. I found that as creepy as Kelly & Aaliyah. Elvis is allowed to rest in peace.
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