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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    There was a video of them chilling out at some fancy hotel afterwards. This perception that trumpers are all a bunch of slack jawed yokels is part of the problem. The democrats do everything they can to appeal to these affluent suburbanites who are more likely to vote conservative due to economic issues, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that a lot of them are probably trump supporters.
    That perception has been proven false for years, we know this when the media puts a spotlight on Trumpers. Which they do with alarming regularity. They appeal to that demographic because they have a lot of fence sitters and moderates, they don't go after insurrections because there is no point. They do is because those voting blocs are millions of people, and can't be ignored since elections are tight. It's also difficult not to in right leaning states, and they don't all have super stars driving out minority turnout like Georgia in the last election.

    It's almost as if having money and being smart aren't the same thing.
    That's never not been true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    There was a video of them chilling out at some fancy hotel afterwards. This perception that trumpers are all a bunch of slack jawed yokels is part of the problem. The democrats do everything they can to appeal to these affluent suburbanites who are more likely to vote conservative due to economic issues, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that a lot of them are probably trump supporters. It's almost as if having money and being smart aren't the same thing.
    The son of the judge is from NYC - https://gothamist.com/news/trump-fur...me-court-judge
    The fact that he's from South Brooklyn does not surprise me. I saw a video of him and there was no light in his eyes. He couldn't even explain why he was doing what he was doing. It was pathetic but hey his father and brother are the same way so the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

    The 'affluent suburbanites' are really the small business owners, tradesmen (remember "Joe the Plumber"), political hacks, and media opportunists that are desperate to maintain their class status. Some of them are from the country, some from the suburbs, and some from the city but the one thing they all have in common is a need to protect their property, their slavish devotion to those in power, and their belief that when capitalism isn't working for them it's because of some outside threat (ex. China, globalists) or infiltrator (ex. BLM, Antifa) who's ruining everything and preventing the US from once again being a "shining city on a hill". Sadly I grew up around people like this and they came in every shape, size, and color.

    What's really amazing is how you have parts of the left who think that if they can water down socialism to appeal to people like this then somehow someway they'll be able to stop capitalism. So they downplay what is going on. Yet some of these same leftists were crying and complaining along with the liberals and conservatives about how the protesters last summer in cities across this country where destroying THEIR neighborhoods and how their protests meant nothing because they weren't built around class. Or that they were identarian movements and therefore had no validity. Besides companies were making token statements about race so therefore anyone saying Black Lives Matter was t3h establishment. Yet once again they spill crocodile tears for people who if they had their way every socialist around would be in prison if not dead. They claim that these reactionaries are the voice of the working class. **** is disgusting honestly.

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    Interview with Derrick Boseman

    If you wanna skip to what he thinks about reasting, it is around 16:55

    Spoiler: he wanted it recast and hollywood is just using this chance to get rid of a black man being a king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Interview with Derrick Boseman

    If you wanna skip to what he thinks about reasting, it is around 16:55

    Spoiler: he wanted it recast and hollywood is just using this chance to get rid of a black man being a king.
    Then why make Black Panther at all? It would have been made years ago had Perlmutter not stopped this. It was also a billion dollar movie, even without the cast and crew who love Boseman it makes no sense for Marvel to leave that money on the table if that was all they cared about. It's also ridiculous to assume millions of fans wouldn't have reacted negatively to recast, it's killed far less popular properties then Black Panther.

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    Black officer seen risking his life to lead Capitol mob away from Senate chamber hailed as a hero.

    Video taken by HuffPost politics reporter Igor Bobic shows a Black Capitol Police officer standing the hallway a few steps ahead of the mob, trying to hold them back, and then heading up a staircase as the men chase after him. "Here's the scary moment when protesters initially got into the building from the first floor and made their way outside Senate chamber," Bobic tweeted when he shared the video in the midst of the chaos Wednesday afternoon.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eugene-...e-chamber/#app
    Imagine working this job, AFTER your service n Iraq. After surviving Iraq. No doubt with some of the same chuckleheads who gathered to kill members of congress. Having to fend off these no account muthafuckas, knowing full well some of your fellow officers went past sympathy but aided in the insurection. Good thing so many of the rioters lacked actual fortitude beyond a horde mentality because it could have easily been him dead.

    When we get past the continued threats and the arrests and convictions begin, the need for the pound of flesh will be real. It's got to be severe, televised and you will have to make an example out of them. Realize it's to much to ask beyond what will hopefully be at least a historic detterant but you need to gotta convict with some creativity behind it. If not what the **** else you have max sentences and more prisons than anyplace on Earth for? On a morbid level wonder what's the over/under on how many off themselves before standing trial?
    Beefing up the old home security, huh?
    You bet yer ass.

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    A 53-year-old Georgia man who faced charges in connection to last Wednesday’s attack on the U.S. Capitol has died by suicide, according to the Fulton County Medical Examiner’s Office.

    Christopher Stanton Georgia, 53, died from a gunshot wound to the chest on Saturday, the medical examiner’s office told NBC affiliate 11Alive and The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

    A LinkedIn page that appears to belong to Georgia listed him as a regional portfolio manager at BB&T, a bank holding company that merged with SunTrust in 2019 to become Truist Financial, up until his death. BB&T did not immediately verify this information with Forbes.
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    That's one.
    Beefing up the old home security, huh?
    You bet yer ass.

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    Ray Fischer got removed from the Flash movie

    What a weird hill to die on. Basically "josh whedon and geoff johns are dicks so I torpedoed my entire career"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    Then why make Black Panther at all? It would have been made years ago had Perlmutter not stopped this. It was also a billion dollar movie, even without the cast and crew who love Boseman it makes no sense for Marvel to leave that money on the table if that was all they cared about. It's also ridiculous to assume millions of fans wouldn't have reacted negatively to recast, it's killed far less popular properties then Black Panther.
    Because no one was making a black lead super hero movie at time since the mess known as Catwoman and Hancock.

    And you competition was "investing" in the now ruined movie version of Cyborg. Not Static or John Stewart.

    You were going to WIN that battle even if you did say a 50 million Luke Cage movie. Heck it could have been Night Thrasher or Falcon or Blue Marvel at a DECENT budget.

    Even if it broke even-you still won. Instead you got 3 Oscars and a billion.

    Yes fans would have reacted but in this case the death of the lead-most would have understood. This is leaving MONEY on the table in the highest order.

    We didn't just get a movie. We got almost everything we SHOULD have gotten with Static.

    We saw toys based on the movie. No DECLINED to make them like we saw with Static Shock including the company owned by the folks doing the movie/show.

    We saw Merchandise. Black Panther coloring book, mugs, shirts, valentines, gift wrap, cups, costumes and so on. That SOLD.

    So now we can't get that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Ray Fischer got removed from the Flash movie

    What a weird hill to die on. Basically "josh whedon and geoff johns are dicks so I torpedoed my entire career"
    It's weird. Clearly, something made him very upset and really hurt him.

    The way he's handled it has been very undiplomatic. I think stuff like should be handled entirely behind closed doors without too much drama.

    He's a young man with a very young career and he shouldn't put emotion in the way of building working relationships especially in Hollywood.

    WB basically came out to say that "bro, you said you didn't want this anymore!" and very strongly defended Walter Hamada. This is not a fight Fisher wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Interview with Derrick Boseman

    If you wanna skip to what he thinks about reasting, it is around 16:55

    Spoiler: he wanted it recast and hollywood is just using this chance to get rid of a black man being a king.
    I'm not surprised.

    I understand the circumstances around Boseman's tragedy but I can't imagine he nor anyone close to him would NOT want BP to be recast.

    And I 100% agree with him about narratives. It's unwritten, it's unspoken but we (i.e in the black community) can feel it. I think there's a comfort level within the greater society with having strong black queens rather than strong black kings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    I'm not surprised.

    I understand the circumstances around Boseman's tragedy but I can't imagine he nor anyone close to him would NOT want BP to be recast.

    And I 100% agree with him about narratives. It's unwritten, it's unspoken but we (i.e in the black community) can feel it. I think there's a comfort level within the greater society with having strong black queens rather than strong black kings.
    It's because the society we live in has turned equality into a zero sum game. That's capitalism for ya. It's a hard thing to break, I'm still struggling with it myself. The idea that there are only so many seats at the table, and black men have had our chance and now it's black women's turn. I have no desire to play musical chairs with black women or black lgbt people. At all. It doesn't have to be this way. At the risk of sounding like a 'class reductionist' the ruling class has tricked the rest of us fighting over scraps while they get seconds, thirds, and fourths.

    The black gender wars are very public, and very dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    It's weird. Clearly, something made him very upset and really hurt him.

    The way he's handled it has been very undiplomatic. I think stuff like should be handled entirely behind closed doors without too much drama.

    He's a young man with a very young career and he shouldn't put emotion in the way of building working relationships especially in Hollywood.

    WB basically came out to say that "bro, you said you didn't want this anymore!" and very strongly defended Walter Hamada. This is not a fight Fisher wants.
    Is it a fight if you get curbstomped?

    All he accomplished was.... ??? Whedon was already basically done for after JL bombed that hard (and his metoo stuff) and Geoff Johns isn't worth that hassle and his career.
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    A video by Youtuber The Storyteller in which he discusses his experiences as a black man in Britain.

    Video is 30 minutes and very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    I'm not surprised.

    I understand the circumstances around Boseman's tragedy but I can't imagine he nor anyone close to him would NOT want BP to be recast.

    And I 100% agree with him about narratives. It's unwritten, it's unspoken but we (i.e in the black community) can feel it. I think there's a comfort level within the greater society with having strong black queens rather than strong black kings.
    You also see this with lack of societal acceptance of Asian and Latino male characters in pop culture. It seems Hollywood and society in general is comfortable with Asian and Latino women as eye candy or the fighter who backs up the white male, but don’t want Asian or Latino males in lead roles.

    Having Pedro Pascal as the Mandalorian is pretty huge. Unfortunately it’s still very rare to see a Latino male lead in big budget productions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    I think there's a comfort level within the greater society with having strong black queens rather than strong black kings.
    I don't think this is really true. There is some vocal support for strong black queens but black kings still surpass them in pop culture.

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