Minorities in Comics and Other Media, etc

[MindofShadow]

"Even if that leads to hardships."

WHAT hardships man?

Vague things mean nothing. What exactly are you willing to give up?

Continue increase in the difficulty in voting in black neighborhoods?

Continue redisctricting and zoning changes to allow GOP more control at the state level?

Continued limiting of teaching black history?

Continued abortion ban, which affects poorer black women more than anyone else?

Continued criminilization of weed leading to increased incarceration rates?

More power and corruption in law enforcement?

More power given to white supremacists?


this all good? For decades?

[80sbaby]

WHAT hardships man?

Vague things mean nothing. What exactly are you willing to give up?

Continue increase in the difficulty in voting in black neighborhoods?

Continue redisctricting and zoning changes to allow GOP more control at the state level?

Continued limiting of teaching black history?

Continued abortion ban, which affects poorer black women more than anyone else?

Continued criminilization of weed leading to increased incarceration rates?

More power and corruption in law enforcement?

More power given to white supremacists?


this all good? For decades?

I don't believe it will be for good or even for decades. I think that when those things happen, it will galvanized folks into actually giving a damn because of just how bad things will be. I'm fully aware of that and think that's what we're eventually going to have to do. As of now, we're losing those things anyway but since it's so gradual, most people are ignoring it. People become comfortable being uncomfortable when it's done to them slowly. Much like if you put a dog in room temperature water and slowly turn up the heat. They won't notice and will slowly cook to death. But put them in boiling water and they'll immediately jump out.

[Malvolio]

As for this...

Saw a young man that had voted for Biden who said voting for him this time was off of the table based on what is going on with US support for Israel. He said that there was no way that he could vote for Biden without also backing current policy towards Israel. Said he would not be voting for Biden because he could not support what is going on.

Does his doing so rise to "Noble..."?

Not for me to say.

Is it "Lazy..."?

No. Not anything even remotely like "Lazy...."

As for if it actually accomplishes anything?

That is really not the issue.

Then what is the issue? People like you being able to pretend you're above it all? Why don't you tell that to a family who can't get the treatment that their transgender child needs because they live in Texas or Florida and can't afford to go to a state that allows the treatment. Or tell that to Black people in Alabama who have to travel over an hour to find a place where they can register to vote. But yeah, keep refusing to vote for Biden to make a "statement. "

[80sbaby]

In other news, Beyonce is receiving some backlash over doing a country album. I'm sure we're not surprised there are gatekeepers there, though.

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In other news, Beyonce is receiving some backlash over doing a country album. I'm sure we're not surprised there are gatekeepers there, though.

No surprises. The discrimination in that industry is well known.

Speaking of music and discrimination, I learnt Kanye West's new album is debuting at number 1 in the US.

Between Kanye's nonsense and Morgan Wallen's some years ago, it seems racism helps more than it hurts some people's careers. We live in interesting times.

[Agent Z]

For black history month, what are some black characters from an animated series you consider an underrated gem?

For me, it would be Mel from Di-Gata Defenders.

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For black history month, what are some black characters from an animated series you consider an underrated gem?

For me, it would be Mel from Di-Gata Defenders.

Kwame from Captain Planet.

[skyvolt2000]

"Even if that leads to hardships."

Here the big elephant in the room-WHAT are those hardships???

Exactly. They aren't going to continue to lose and just shrug it off.

This is why we need MEANINGFUL conversations. Something we can't seem to have because certain folks won't SHUT UP long enough for folks to talk and have a meaningful dialogue.
Too many folks want to be SEEN and HEARD.

Nobody wants to look at how congressional lines are drawn to NOTICE something. A point made by the NAACP and others that your Black Authority or JD Black or Fake black woke person with a youtube page won't address.

How do you think we get so many 500 year old Congress folks still in office? They are in areas where the majority of one party are living at.

Trump in 2020 won Texas. 90% of registered voters bypassing 2016 election. 18 counties were 90% for Trump. Biden had 7 of the largest populated counties.
There are counties in Texas a Democrat have not won since Lyndon B Johnson and Biden in some cases had the BEST showing of a Democrat in those counties.
Denton County has not gone for a Democrat since 1920.

There is a reason they skip Texas. Too many Republican counties strongholds.

Lets look at Florida. Biden won all the largely populated counties. He lost every county that was under 23K.
Biden only won 5 Texas counties under 5K and we got over 100 of them.
In Bama Biden won the most populated county and 8 of the 16 counties of under 10k.

[skyvolt2000]

Oh, I get it. So not voting is noble rather than lazy if you attach a "purpose " to it. And what exactly has that "purpose " accomplished?

NOTHING.

Nobody has to like what Biden has or has NOT done.

Folks needs to look big picture. Not voting in 2016 for Clinton over a crime bill-she had NOTHING to do with and was supported by MANY black folks in Congress who are still there. Because while it got Pookie like it should-it also got Trayvon for the wrong reasons. That some reform would fix to stop that.

Yet because professional victim callers and attention whores who do NOT understand voting cried and we got Trump.

What good is getting Trump back in the White House will do???

Food prices won't drop.

He is not going to stop illegal immigration. Because too many businesses use that labor.

School vouchers don't work for cities where private schools don't exist. It's why reasonable Republicans in Texas fight back against Abbott. Data already shows the only folks who use those vouchers are those already in private school.

What is he suppose to FIX???

[numberthirty]

Then what is the issue? People like you being able to pretend you're above it all? Why don't you tell that to a family who can't get the treatment that their transgender child needs because they live in Texas or Florida and can't afford to go to a state that allows the treatment. Or tell that to Black people in Alabama who have to travel over an hour to find a place where they can register to vote. But yeah, keep refusing to vote for Biden to make a "statement. "

The issue is someone deciding not to vote for an administration that is backing the murder of non-combatants to the degree that it is happening in this instance.

If that young man has the leverage with just his vote to change things?

That is not the issue. He should not decide not to vote for something solely in situations where withholding a vote will lead to the result he wants.

He should do what he actually believes is morally right.

[numberthirty]

Past that...

The way the young man in question put it was rather simple.

Since he had voted for Biden, he felt that he has to hold Biden to the degree of accountability that he is able to.

To him, not voting for current policy was the largest degree to which he can hold the guy that he voted for to account.

[aja_christopher]

No surprises. The discrimination in that industry is well known.

Past that...

The way the young man in question put it was rather simple.

Since he had voted for Biden, he felt that he has to hold Biden to the degree of accountability that he is able to.

To him, not voting for current policy was the largest degree to which he can hold the guy that he voted for to account.

People like you “not voting” for Hillary is what helped put Trump in office.

Not voting against what is clearly vile, racist, bigoted, unethical behavior is the equivalent of ignoring it — just as you continue to do with Trump and the Republican Party.

The result was a conservative Supreme Court that has already overturned Roe vs Wade and a nation that likely would have re-elected a racist authoritarian as president had it not been for COVID — and yet some still want to play with fire and see if Republicans will burn down all the progress made by those who came before.

Abortion, voting rights, and the Supreme Court have all already been compromised by apathy and inaction — maybe you are willing to surrender the rights of “minorities” to support your political views, but don’t try to argue that ignoring Republican bigotry and oppression is the “moral” choice when it clearly and unequivocally is not.

Well we haven't tried it yet so I can't tell you. But if you'll notice my initial post on this subject was about "having the conversation," not saying this is the only course of action. You seem hell bent on not even discussing it as an option.

Progress doesn’t happen overnight — it often takes generations of dedication and hard work.

If you want progress to happen faster in America then the logical solution is to vote against the Republicans who are blocking Democratic legislation that enacts the change you claim you want to see as they are the primary obstacle to said legislation.

[aja_christopher]

I don't believe it will be for good or even for decades. I think that when those things happen, it will galvanized folks into actually giving a damn because of just how bad things will be.

Things have already been that bad — which is why those who came before fought and died for the right to vote that many now take for granted.

Where you see a lack of progress they see revolutionary change that they helped enact — if you want change then you not only have to vote but you also have to put in the work to make it happen.

[Shockingjustice]

For black history month, what are some black characters from an animated series you consider an underrated gem?

For me, it would be Mel from Di-Gata Defenders.

Doc Saturday from secret saturdays.

[ed2962]

In other news, Beyonce is receiving some backlash over doing a country album. I'm sure we're not surprised there are gatekeepers there, though.

There's gatekeepers in every fandom and there's been black musicians the genre for years ( although some years more than other years).

I'm convinced the backlash is connected to them still not being over Beyonce referencing the Black Panthers at the Superbowl some years ago. I saw a piece of a clip where Tom Scheider was talking with an OAN guest and they said Beyonce doing a country song is another example of "The Left" trying to take over everything. And think about that for a moment...the idea that Beyonce and Jay-Z, two multi-millionaire entertainers with ownership in everything from clothing lines to sports teams are somehow "leftist".