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    Hey, y'all! How yall doing? Been a min since I was last here. Been crazy busy on my end. Just wanted to stop by and let anyone who's interested know that the Kickstarter campaign for the next Is'nana the Were-Spider story is up and running! In Showtime, Is'nana finds himself squared up against his next challenge: breakdancing in the streets of New York City! Is'nana learns to have fun and be a kid, but also deal with the reality of race.

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    Just wanted to pop in and say I am loving Lovecraft Country. It's like a black Goonies/The Mummy/National Treasure all in one. I've waited so long for black people to get these type of adventure discover the unknown stories. Hopefully more stuff like this comes in the fututer, especially for other PoC as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shockingjustice View Post
    I've waited so long for black people to get these type of adventure discover the unknown stories. Hopefully more stuff like this comes in the fututer, especially for other PoC as well.
    I'm going to assume you mean on tv? Because these type of stories have existed in print for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G. Boney View Post
    I'm going to assume you mean on tv? Because these type of stories have existed in print for a long time.
    Well of course they do in print with all the independent artist out there. But something on a bigger scale is rare.

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    Theme song for my character MYTH SMITH, by David Gueringer. Lyrics are at the youtube link

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew101281 View Post
    Pretty good video wish she brought up Monet & Moonstar whitewashing aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4sake Baned View Post
    Pretty good video wish she brought up Monet & Moonstar whitewashing aswell.
    True, it is bad with Monet ... probably even worse than with Roberto, she's a character I could see some fans not even realizing she was not always white.

    Similarly, one I feel like I never really see anyone talk about is Apocalypse. I know he's a villain, but whatever, the guy is a major character. And he was originally black. But, his clone in the comics somehow comes out with completely white skin and straight hair ... and Apocalypse himself has been some weird bluish-grey tint in the comics for so long, no one even batted an eye when a white guy was cast to play him in the movie.

    I mean, I've honestly never even been a big fan of Apocalypse; it's always seemed like all of his character really just boiled down to "over-powered and for some reason evil" without much more nuance to it. But, he is a major super villain ... and should be like the only black one, except at some point they just kind of forgot he was black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew101281 View Post
    Melina makes a lot of great points here.

    Bringing up the New Mutants example and Josh Boone's thought process when casting Sunspot just defined systemic racism. He said he wanted someone to represent Brazil the best and in his mind, that's a rich white guy. Casting the "best person for the role" which involves changing the character's race is just bullshit and has been used to exclude people of color from roles for a very long time. Seriously, did he consider casting people of color for Rahne's or Guthrie's character? Or even an ethnic minority of Illyana? Nonsense.

    Talking about the X-men overall..*sigh*...I've long argued that some X-men characters have been whitewashed over time. Not to mention that after a while, the major minority characters in the team were shunted to the side for Cyclops, Wolverine, Emma Frost and Jean Grey for years. Storm being described as looking like "all the races of the world" (this plus Chris Claremount weird fetishes in X-men is a discussion in and of itself) just speaks to how racists and even colorists believe dark skinned black women can't really be viewed as beautiful. I've always seen Storm as looking like Angela Bassett or Naomi Campbell or going further back like Grace Jones (especially with that mohawk). But over time writers seemed to make her look less and less like a pure African. Same with Monet, i got so confused that i had to ask in the X-thread some years back if Monet is still of African descent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Allen View Post
    True, it is bad with Monet ... probably even worse than with Roberto, she's a character I could see some fans not even realizing she was not always white.

    Similarly, one I feel like I never really see anyone talk about is Apocalypse. I know he's a villain, but whatever, the guy is a major character. And he was originally black. But, his clone in the comics somehow comes out with completely white skin and straight hair ... and Apocalypse himself has been some weird bluish-grey tint in the comics for so long, no one even batted an eye when a white guy was cast to play him in the movie.

    I mean, I've honestly never even been a big fan of Apocalypse; it's always seemed like all of his character really just boiled down to "over-powered and for some reason evil" without much more nuance to it. But, he is a major super villain ... and should be like the only black one, except at some point they just kind of forgot he was black.
    Did they ever confirm if Apocalypse was a black Egyptian or just Arab?

    His son/clone Evan's whitewashing is worse imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Allen View Post
    True, it is bad with Monet ... probably even worse than with Roberto, she's a character I could see some fans not even realizing she was not always white.

    Similarly, one I feel like I never really see anyone talk about is Apocalypse. I know he's a villain, but whatever, the guy is a major character. And he was originally black. But, his clone in the comics somehow comes out with completely white skin and straight hair ... and Apocalypse himself has been some weird bluish-grey tint in the comics for so long, no one even batted an eye when a white guy was cast to play him in the movie.

    I mean, I've honestly never even been a big fan of Apocalypse; it's always seemed like all of his character really just boiled down to "over-powered and for some reason evil" without much more nuance to it. But, he is a major super villain ... and should be like the only black one, except at some point they just kind of forgot he was black.
    Sad but true, I gave up on Apocalypse not being whitewash it just feels like a battle that won’t be won..

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    When did DC Comics buy the rights to Judge from Miles Morales?

    And since when did DC troll?

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    Today DC Comics has launched a new digital-first comic book, called Represent! The first issue is free and available now, It's a Bird by Christian Cooper and Alitha E. Martinez. You may recognise Christian Cooper as the former Marvel Comics editor and Star Trek comics writer accosted in New York's Central Park while birdwatching, with threats that the person would call the police and tell them that an "African American man" was threatening her, with all that this implied. The event received national coverage and was a contributing factor to the rise of the #BlackLivesMatter movement.


    I am sure a certain person will bash Daniel Cherry over this because she is determined to make everyone think he is the worst hire ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OopsIdiditagain View Post
    Did they ever confirm if Apocalypse was a black Egyptian or just Arab?

    His son/clone Evan's whitewashing is worse imo.
    Oh, I don't know ... honestly, I feel like there was some ethnic drift going on with Apocalypse, even by the time they started filling in the Egyptian backstory stuff. I just recall that from his very earliest appearances as the arch villain for the original X-Factor, he basically looked like a supervillain version of Tiny Lister.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4sake Baned View Post
    Sad but true, I gave up on Apocalypse not being whitewash it just feels like a battle that won’t be won..
    Yeah, probably won't be ... still irritating, tho! I feel like the people (like the director from New Mutants) who make correcting this stuff impossible end up falling back to an argument of claiming it doesn't matter ... except, if it doesn't matter so much, why did you change it in the first place??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Allen View Post
    Oh, I don't know ... honestly, I feel like there was some ethnic drift going on with Apocalypse, even by the time they started filling in the Egyptian backstory stuff. I just recall that from his very earliest appearances as the arch villain for the original X-Factor, he basically looked like a supervillain version of Tiny Lister.



    Yeah, probably won't be ... still irritating, tho! I feel like the people (like the director from New Mutants) who make correcting this stuff impossible end up falling back to an argument of claiming it doesn't matter ... except, if it doesn't matter so much, why did you change it in the first place??

    Facts he used to look just like Tiny...

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    Hmm..Deebo as Apocalypse.

    That’s terrifying.
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