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    Thandie Newton Turned Down 'Charlie's Angels' After Meeting Amy Pascal

    https://deadline.com/2020/07/thandie...ls-1202979960/

    In an incredibly frank conversation with Vulture, actress Thandie Newton spoke about her decision to turn down a part in the remake of Charlie’s Angels starring Drew Barrymore, Cameron Diaz and, in the role that Newton was considered for, Lucy Liu.

    Newton said she was “massively affected” by the abuse, racism and objectification she encountered after she began working as an actress at age 16. Newton said she encountered “people that were doing the same [abusive] sh*t, and so I would challenge them or want to get out of it, or not want to work with people.”

    One of those people, according to Newton, was former co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment and chairman of that studio’s Motion Picture Group, Amy Pascal.
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    I had a meeting with her, and she said, “Look, I don’t mean to be politically incorrect, but the character as written and you playing the role, I just feel like we’ve got to make sure that it’s believable.” I was like, “What do you mean? What changes would you have to make?” She’s like, “Well, you know, the character, as written, she’s been to university and is educated.” I’m like, “I’ve been to university. I went to Cambridge.” She went, “Yeah, but you’re different.” She’s like, “Maybe there could be a scene where you’re in a bar and she gets up on a table and starts shaking her booty.” She’s basically reeling off these stereotypes of how to be more convincing as a Black character. Everything she said, I was like, “Nah, I wouldn’t do that.” She’s like, “Yeah, but you’re different. You’re different.” That was Amy Pascal.

    Approached by Vulture about Newton’s account, Pascal said she was “horrified to hear” the characterization of their meeting.

    “While I take her words seriously,” said Pascal, “I have no recollection of the events she describes, nor do any of her representatives who were present at that casting session.” The former Sony boss then added, “I’ve long considered Thandie a friend; I’m thankful that I’ve had the chance to make movies with her; and I hope to work with her again in the future.”

    In 2015, Pascal stepped down from her position at Sony Pictures after and email hack revealed racially insensitive emails between Pascal and producer Scott Rudin about President Obama. In the private exchange, the two joked that the President’s favorite films were black-themed movies like Django Unchained and 12 Years A Slave.

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    Some design concepts for Abby from Last of Us 2. It seems she was originally going to be black (her dad appeared to be black in the first game).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post


    Some design concepts for Abby from Last of Us 2. It seems she was originally going to be black (her dad appeared to be black in the first game).
    At least this time Laura Bailey didn't end up voicing a dark-skinned character in a Naughty Dog game without knowing about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf View Post
    Reform, unfortunately, even moreso with us, is slow. In contrast with the Montgomery Boycott and the March on Washington with what was displayed after Floyd's murder was a tsunami comparatively speaking. All the major street level Karen hardliners are going to be exposed and rooted out for some time going forward, so those shockwaves are still happening. Dismantling something like the FOP, an organization that goes back to the slave catcher designations, is going to take time to pull apart. New York has taken a billion dollars from the NYPD budget and who'd have ever thought something like that would happen (or even that that budget got THAT high to begin with). It's going to get bad, again and again and on some level the playing field will never quite level but exposure needs to happen. I also feel the recent surge in gun violence across many cities is another after effect. Then one of my guys who've spent time in Bloomington sent me this last night. Bloomington Man's attempted lynching. What the fk is all I could say. America's remodel has wayyyy to much rotting wood and a bad foundation for a couple coats of paint to fix. Gonna be a while.


    4 years yesterday since Philando Castile's murder while his girlfriend and a child were in the car. That 'one' and the poor Church drummer killed changing a tire by some off-duty piece of trash both hit me particularly hard, they still do but it got some much needed and seriously tardy changes to happen. Sad part is it wasn't government leadership to enact the change, that onus was on the deceased's mother to push it.




    I feel like the only way this movement works is if there is another black dude murdered on camera that makes people get angry again. Clear as day murder ala Floyd. Not "fight the police, steal taser, shoot while runnin gand get shot in the back" type murder.

    Need another martyr sadly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surf View Post
    SO, Hamilton on Plus. Still haven't finished it, it's long but it's dope as hell too. HIP-HOP, HIP-HOP!!
    Wife wants to watch it. I'd rather play Doom. How long is it? I don't really like musicals at all lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    Pulling down statues, getting rid of Aunt Jemima, people gushing about that book "White Fragility" Actors giving up voice jobs, its all a big bottle of action faking. It's all theater, performative wokeness assuages all that pesky white guilt but doesn't actually do anything to address racism, classism, poverty, and policing.
    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I'm close to including people posting videos of so-called "Karens" having meltdowns as well.

    Having said that, people are having serious conversations about police reform, but these simply don't go viral the way clips on Facebook do.
    Especially once some trashy individuals started setting up Karen's and editing the video and such.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Grey View Post
    Police reform, not police punishment. This is an okey doke in progress.

    The governor in my state finally vetoed a bill that would have shielded some death record investigations from the public. The legislature nearly unanimously passed it back in June, and will surely fight him now that he has vetoed it, but how is any of this even possible in this climate? Simple, these token gestures are an okey doke so they can pull crap like that. Look over here, nevermind what we're doing over there.
    IDK, did the powers to be just shoot to high and made it an impossible fight? Is the "defund the police" just too much maybe?

    For me, I feel like there were a few things that could be done to help a lot that are much easier to defunding the police.

    - required bodycams that can't turn off manually and footage must be released in timely manner when requested
    - national license for cops similar to what doctors and lawyers have to do. You get fired for certain things, you lose your license nationally. Not "move one county over" and still work.
    - actual fucking consequences for comitting crimes. I don't see how this isn't a thing. This probably needs an independent investigation/prosecutor to actually do this but fuck... why is breonna taylor's killers still walking around??

    The governor in my state finally vetoed a bill that would have shielded some death record investigations from the public. The legislature nearly unanimously passed it back in June, and will surely fight him now that he has vetoed it, but how is any of this even possible in this climate? Simple, these token gestures are an okey doke so they can pull crap like that. Look over here, nevermind what we're doing over there.
    We had weeks of protests. All that was really asked is some oversight on the cops and for them to release the bodycam footage fo the last three shootings by cops that killed black dudes. That is it.

    Instead, we got Black Lives Matter painted on a mural yesterday. AWESOME!!!

    Cops refuse the release the bodycam footage on what sounds like a good shoot. Why? What are they hiding. They even refuse to release the cop that shot the last one.

    But we got a mural in the poorest county in the state!!!!
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    What is Desean Jackson doing???

    Why are other athletes liking/defending him?

    Sigh

    Bad part of having athletes promote a movement is that a lot of athletes are idiots. They are just rich idiots who are good at sports but still idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    I feel like the only way this movement works is if there is another black dude murdered on camera that makes people get angry again. Clear as day murder ala Floyd. Not "fight the police, steal taser, shoot while runnin gand get shot in the back" type murder.

    Need another martyr sadly.



    Wife wants to watch it. I'd rather play Doom. How long is it? I don't really like musicals at all lol





    Especially once some trashy individuals started setting up Karen's and editing the video and such.



    IDK, did the powers to be just shoot to high and made it an impossible fight? Is the "defund the police" just too much maybe?

    For me, I feel like there were a few things that could be done to help a lot that are much easier to defunding the police.

    - required bodycams that can't turn off manually and footage must be released in timely manner when requested
    - national license for cops similar to what doctors and lawyers have to do. You get fired for certain things, you lose your license nationally. Not "move one county over" and still work.
    - actual fucking consequences for comitting crimes. I don't see how this isn't a thing. This probably needs an independent investigation/prosecutor to actually do this but fuck... why is breonna taylor's killers still walking around??



    We had weeks of protests. All that was really asked is some oversight on the cops and for them to release the bodycam footage fo the last three shootings by cops that killed black dudes. That is it.

    Instead, we got Black Lives Matter painted on a mural yesterday. AWESOME!!!

    Cops refuse the release the bodycam footage on what sounds like a good shoot. Why? What are they hiding. They even refuse to release the cop that shot the last one.

    But we got a mural in the poorest county in the state!!!!
    I remember Ronald Reagan firing Air Traffic Controllers because they dared to threaten a strike.

    And the Air Traffic Controllers never choked anybody to death.

    These MFers are refusing to co operate with investigations on an organizational level refusing to
    release records when asked and such. And that's after being caught on tape murdering people.

    The Police Department was already replaced entirely once in New York's history. It can be done again.

    Fire everyone who isn't in Finance ( somebody has to keep track of the funds).

    Bring in State Troopers to take up the slack.

    Start over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    I remember Ronald Reagan firing Air Traffic Controllers because they dared to threaten a strike.

    And the Air Traffic Controllers never choked anybody to death.

    These MFers are refusing to co operate with investigations on an organizational level refusing to
    release records when asked and such. And that's after being caught on tape murdering people.

    The Police Department was already replaced entirely once in New York's history. It can be done again.

    Fire everyone who isn't in Finance ( somebody has to keep track of the funds).

    Bring in State Troopers to take up the slack.

    Start over.
    Every cop i've met acts like they are above the law.

    Even with the face mask stuff, some of my patients are law enforcement.

    75% of them go walk in and go, "yall don't need to wear masks, we aren't enforcing it."

    That... that isn't your job to decide what is law or not. I mean, wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Wife wants to watch it. I'd rather play Doom. How long is it? I don't really like musicals at all lol
    Fam, Dreamgirls and The Wiz are the extent of my experience with musicals and I haven't sat through The Wiz in 20 years. It is long, I've had to take it in chunks but as a historical representation alone it's good. King George's drop-ins are my favorite but dude that played Thomas Jefferson is hilarious. Even the sappy songs move pretty quick and it's more cursing than you'll see on anything else on Plus.




    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    - actual fucking consequences for comitting crimes. I don't see how this isn't a thing. This probably needs an independent investigation/prosecutor to actually do this but fuck... why is breonna taylor's killers still walking around??

    Between 2008 and 2018, there were 11 lawsuits that named Williams (usually including other officers) alleging police misconduct like excessive force and wrongful arrest, according to CAPstat, a project that tracks NYPD misconduct claims. Williams has been accused four times of anally penetrating a suspect, according to CCRB complaints reviewed by The Intercept, as well as a federal lawsuit reported on by The Appeal. In a 2017 trial, Allen’s attorneys asked Williams if that conduct had earned him the nickname of “assman” in the neighborhood. Williams admitted that people call him “assman,” but disputed the moniker’s origins, The Appeal reported, citing court records. As recently as last year, he was accused in a CCRB complaint of using a chokehold during an arrest; that practice has been under intense scrutiny in New York since the 2014 killing of Eric Garner, yet it was not until last month that Cuomo signed a bill banning it.

    But even if — a big if — de Blasio and Cuomo’s reforms get the most abusive officers fired, it’s not clear how they’d change the larger culture that enabled the abuses in the first place. In the complaints against him, it appears that Williams never acted alone, as other officers are also named. His partners and other officers on the scene have been accused of engaging in abuses like restricting a suspectÂ’s breathing
    , as laid out in a 2019 CCRB complaint that was never resolved because the complainant did not cooperate.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/07/06/...e-of-impunity/
    Indeed. One scenario that I thought about is that- IF, the 50 biggest police departments purged a couple dozen of the worst of the worst, the real shitbags, you'd just be putting these animals on the street and they are not trained to do anything else other than give orders with a gun on their hip. Maybe a couple of them take themselves out, maybe some of them get locked up but that's going to have to create victims in order for that to happen whether it's a spouse or a neighbor or just some road rage incident on a citizen. Problem is when you start cleaning house and unpacking shit, you're always left with way more trash than you thought you would and then you have to find a place to dispose of it. That's gotta happen though, even if it's symbolic. What it boils down to is WE'RE ALL PAYING TAX DOLLARS FOR THIS, and that's sick as fk.
    Beefing up the old home security, huh?
    You bet yer ass.

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    WE'RE ALL PAYING TAX DOLLARS FOR THIS, and that's sick as fk.
    including the settlements for when the department gets sued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf View Post
    Fam, Dreamgirls and The Wiz are the extent of my experience with musicals and I haven't sat through The Wiz in 20 years. It is long, I've had to take it in chunks but as a historical representation alone it's good. King George's drop-ins are my favorite but dude that played Thomas Jefferson is hilarious. Even the sappy songs move pretty quick and it's more cursing than you'll see on anything else on Plus.









    Indeed. One scenario that I thought about is that- IF, the 50 biggest police departments purged a couple dozen of the worst of the worst, the real shitbags, you'd just be putting these animals on the street and they are not trained to do anything else other than give orders with a gun on their hip. Maybe a couple of them take themselves out, maybe some of them get locked up but that's going to have to create victims in order for that to happen whether it's a spouse or a neighbor or just some road rage incident on a citizen. Problem is when you start cleaning house and unpacking shit, you're always left with way more trash than you thought you would and then you have to find a place to dispose of it. That's gotta happen though, even if it's symbolic. What it boils down to is WE'RE ALL PAYING TAX DOLLARS FOR THIS, and that's sick as fk.
    Before Covid shut everything down, I did see the Anastasia musical when it came to town. It took a different take than the movie, a little more grounded, but I liked it. I listen to a lot of progressive rock and classical music, so I'm used to lenghty entertainment with a lot of transitions (2112 is 20 minutes long, Xanadu is 11 minutes, and Dream Theater made a 2 hour concept album). I'm largely indifferent to hamilton though, same way I feel about Harry Potter.

    I think that Demilitarization and busting up Police Unions would do a lot of good. Police get away with a lot of things because the unions protect them, they're also the only unions people at large seem to be okay with, mention any other kind of labor union and people shout "Rahh, socialism!" Ever since 9/11 cops have been getting more and more military grade equipment and weapons that they largely do not need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf View Post
    Reform, unfortunately, even moreso with us, is slow. In contrast with the Montgomery Boycott and the March on Washington with what was displayed after Floyd's murder was a tsunami comparatively speaking. All the major street level Karen hardliners are going to be exposed and rooted out for some time going forward, so those shockwaves are still happening. Dismantling something like the FOP, an organization that goes back to the slave catcher designations, is going to take time to pull apart. New York has taken a billion dollars from the NYPD budget and who'd have ever thought something like that would happen (or even that that budget got THAT high to begin with). It's going to get bad, again and again and on some level the playing field will never quite level but exposure needs to happen. I also feel the recent surge in gun violence across many cities is another after effect. Then one of my guys who've spent time in Bloomington sent me this last night. Bloomington Man's attempted lynching. What the fk is all I could say. America's remodel has wayyyy to much rotting wood and a bad foundation for a couple coats of paint to fix. Gonna be a while.


    4 years yesterday since Philando Castile's murder while his girlfriend and a child were in the car. That 'one' and the poor Church drummer killed changing a tire by some off-duty piece of trash both hit me particularly hard, they still do but it got some much needed and seriously tardy changes to happen. Sad part is it wasn't government leadership to enact the change, that onus was on the deceased's mother to push it.




    Might sound all "In my day" here but, the challenge going forward will be for young people to understand that part. Roughly 10 years from Rosa Parks to Civil Rights and this is about upending the how the systems that were put up back then have been rigged all along.

    This is going to take awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Every cop i've met acts like they are above the law.

    Even with the face mask stuff, some of my patients are law enforcement.

    75% of them go walk in and go, "yall don't need to wear masks, we aren't enforcing it."

    That... that isn't your job to decide what is law or not. I mean, wtf?
    Sometimes it's not worth the effort or paperwork.

    Especially if you got bold and cocky folks looking to get into with a cop for the heck of it.


    I remember Ronald Reagan firing Air Traffic Controllers because they dared to threaten a strike.

    And the Air Traffic Controllers never choked anybody to death.

    These MFers are refusing to co operate with investigations on an organizational level refusing to
    release records when asked and such. And that's after being caught on tape murdering people.

    The Police Department was already replaced entirely once in New York's history. It can be done again.
    Fire everyone who isn't in Finance ( somebody has to keep track of the funds).

    Start over.
    I can top that.....

    Schools that had low test scores saw ENTIRE staff removed from the principal to the janitor. We had it happen a few times.

    Florida, California, Texas & Rhode Island have done it and I think one did the ENTIRE school district.

    If they can do that-they can hose clean a police department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    Pulling down statues, getting rid of Aunt Jemima, people gushing about that book "White Fragility" Actors giving up voice jobs, its all a big bottle of action faking. It's all theater, performative wokeness assuages all that pesky white guilt but doesn't actually do anything to address racism, classism, poverty, and policing.
    We had weeks of protests. All that was really asked is some oversight on the cops and for them to release the bodycam footage fo the last three shootings by cops that killed black dudes. That is it.
    When you movement is lead by emotional fake woke attention whores-stuff like this happens.
    Who have sheep following them and can order them to attack at will with cancel culture.

    They are all about attention and getting book, movie and other deals. Like Shaun King and others who are making money off of dead black males.


    We had weeks of protests. All that was really asked is some oversight on the cops and for them to release the bodycam footage fo the last three shootings by cops that killed black dudes. That is it.

    Instead, we got Black Lives Matter painted on a mural yesterday. AWESOME!!!

    But we got a mural in the poorest county in the state!!!!

    And I PROMISE you when change happens-BLM won't be there to help. How many times have we seen them act a FOOL at meetings to the point folks give up and leave.

    While they were crying victim and seeking attention-this got passed in Texas without them helping.

    https://cloakinginequity.com/2020/04...MPdKHIzkwJdwzo

    Nevertheless, I am incredibly impressed and over the moon that Texas is leading the way and is responsible for this incredible milestone. Here is the first-of-its-kind statewide Texas African American studies course:

    113.51. Ethnic Studies: African American Studies (One Credit).
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...-across-texas/

    AUSTIN -- The State Board of Education has given final approval to an elective African American studies course, opening the door for high schools across the state to begin offering it as soon as next fall.

    In a unanimous vote via teleconference, the board approved the course standards on Friday, making it Texas’ second statewide ethnic studies course. The first, focusing on Mexican American studies, gained statewide approval in 2018 after four years of controversy over its creation, textbook material and naming.

    But the African American studies course has garnered widespread support from the board and the public since it was proposed last fall.

    “April 17th is going to be a historic day,” board member Ruben Cortez of Brownsville said before the final vote. “We as a board have come a long way.”

    The course is modeled after a course taught in Dallas ISD for the first time this academic year. Aicha Davis, a freshman board member representing Dallas, asked the board to make the course a statewide option last September.


    “This has just been an amazing journey,” Davis said Friday, tearing up. “This course exceeded anything I ever thought it would. It’s something I wish I could have taken when I was young.”

    For Jamila Thomas, who worked with Davis on developing the course as the former director of Dallas ISD’s Racial Equity Office, the Friday vote was “a dream come true.”

    Thomas said this in-depth look at African American studies will help students of all races think critically and better understand issues in our society today, including why the COVID-19 pandemic has led to a disproportionate number of deaths among black Americans.

    “These things can be traced far back to help you get an understanding of why COVID-19 has really exposed, if you will, the inequity that exists in so many different communities,” she said.

    Davis said she hopes Texas’ standards will help other states adopt similar courses, and she is already working with Grand Prairie ISD to develop a Native American studies course that could eventually be offered across the state.

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    uring a recent interview with Forbes, West laid out some of his plans for a possible four years as President, and explained that he's using Wakanda - the fictional home nation of T'Challa in Black Panther - as a basis for how he would run things in the good 'ol US of A.

    "A lot of Africans do not like the movie [Black Panther] and representation of themselves in...Wakanda. But I’m gonna use the framework of Wakanda right now because it’s the best explanation of what our design group is going to feel like in the White House," he explained.

    "That is a positive idea: you got Kanye West, one of the most powerful humans - I’m not saying the most because you got a lot of alien level superpowers and it’s only collectively that we can set it free. Let’s get back to Wakanda...like in the movie in Wakanda when the king went to visit that lead scientist to have the shoes wrap around her shoes. Just the amount of innovation that can happen, the amount of innovation in medicine - like big pharma - we are going to work, innovate, together."
    Please Bast, please make 2020 stop. '

    Or Odin.

    Someone for godsakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    Thandie Newton Turned Down 'Charlie's Angels' After Meeting Amy Pascal

    https://deadline.com/2020/07/thandie...ls-1202979960/
    Tempted to cite Nostalgia Critic's "well the chart says....." skits on Hollywood tomfoolery when it comes to scoffing at this Pascal lady's insistence on black stereotypes.

    ...............You know what? Why the hell not.

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