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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    Exactly and the people who support him aren't doing so because of cultural differences with mainstream America, they're just making excuses for him because he's a celebrity they like.

    Eh, this is the only part I partially disagree with. I definitely believe R Kelly knew what he was doing was wrong, just by the legal ramifications associated with dating a minor. There's a reason the joke went "16 will get you 20."

    But while I do agree that some are making an excuse of him because he's a celebrity, I believe others don't see anything wrong because they think 14 years old are old enough to make their own decision. I don't believe it's an either or scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leo619 View Post
    Eh, this is the only part I partially disagree with. I definitely believe R Kelly knew what he was doing was wrong, just by the legal ramifications associated with dating a minor. There's a reason the joke went "16 will get you 20."

    But while I do agree that some are making an excuse of him because he's a celebrity, I believe others don't see anything wrong because they think 14 years old are old enough to make their own decision. I don't believe it's an either or scenario.
    And those people are what my paternal grandmother would refer to as "Gutter."
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    Quote Originally Posted by leo619 View Post
    Eh, this is the only part I partially disagree with. I definitely believe R Kelly knew what he was doing was wrong, just by the legal ramifications associated with dating a minor. There's a reason the joke went "16 will get you 20."

    But while I do agree that some are making an excuse of him because he's a celebrity, I believe others don't see anything wrong because they think 14 years old are old enough to make their own decision. I don't believe it's an either or scenario.
    I'm not so sure those people are making a cultural argument though. They may think that a teenager knows right from wrong but they don't think teenagers are mature. It's more that these are "bad kids" and deserve whatever they get. They're looking at these girls as "hoodrats" so who cares what what happens to them? These "fast" girls are out there drinking and fornicating anyway, who cares if a man twice their age is taking advantage of them? That's what some of these folks are thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I'm not so sure those people are making a cultural argument though. They may think that a teenager knows right from wrong but they don't think teenagers are mature. It's more that these are "bad kids" and deserve whatever they get. They're looking at these girls as "hoodrats" so who cares what what happens to them? These "fast" girls are out there drinking and fornicating anyway, who cares if a man twice their age is taking advantage of them? That's what some of these folks are thinking.
    Gotta keep
    One step ahead of the pedos!
    One finger on my mace!
    R Kelly wants to pee on my face!

    One jump ahead of deniers!
    but they some crazy folk!
    These guys don't wanna face the facts!

    Street whore!
    Hood rat!
    Loose girl!
    Take that!

    I was just fourteen guys!
    Get on facebook, ruin her life!

    I can take a hint,
    you done lost your minds!
    That dude is fifty-two!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome men don't lose fights View Post
    And those people are what my paternal grandmother would refer to as "Gutter."
    Recently I learned that adults in France are having open relationship with 12 -14 year olds and it isn't illegal.

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    R. Kelly Is Reportedly Under Criminal Investigation After Lifetime Series

    https://jezebel.com/r-kelly-is-under...ime-1831587908

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralmist View Post
    Recently I learned that adults in France are having open relationship with 12 -14 year olds and it isn't illegal.
    He shoulda moved to France then so he could diddle kids legally.

    on the surface it doesn't seem Europe cares much about diddling kids. Vatican loves that shit. Guess that monarchy stuff just stayed in the genes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    R. Kelly Is Reportedly Under Criminal Investigation After Lifetime Series

    https://jezebel.com/r-kelly-is-under...ime-1831587908
    Should have happened 25 years ago when he impregnated a 15 year old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    Should have happened 25 years ago when he impregnated a 25 year old.
    Did you mean 15 year old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Did you mean 15 year old?
    Yeah, did a quick edit.

    The Aaliyah thing really hit home because i was a teenager almost around the same age as Aaliyah.

    Seeing this big, bald man in a relationship and manipulating a teenager into claiming to be older than she was, it was a horrible thing to see. I still don't know how he got away with that nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    Yeah, did a quick edit.

    The Aaliyah thing really hit home because i was a teenager almost around the same age as Aaliyah.

    Seeing this big, bald man relationship and manipulating a teenager into claiming to be older than she was, it was a horrible thing to see. I still don't know how he got away with that nonsense.
    Willful ignorance, victim blaming and lots of hush money.

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    Lady Gaga issues apology for working with R. Kelly.

    https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/...663697408?s=21

    I'm kind of torn. On the one hand, I feel she is sincere and it is big of her to apologize. On the other hand, there's this nagging feeling of "too little, too late".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    Willful ignorance, victim blaming and lots of hush money.
    plus it was a different time period.

    Stuff spreads FAST now. Something like that would blow up, go viral, be on everyones radar not just people who get on specific websites/magazines/tv shows.

    Stuff spreads fast but also burn out fast. This r kelley thing is going to have to get big enough to reach a certain point or it is going ot disappear again when people get bored. It will have to reach the police, they will actually have to care, some of the victims are going ot have to talk, and only then will it have a lasting effect (maybe) as the police don't get "bored."
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    Michael Jackson's Alleged Child Sexual Abuse Is the Subject of a New Documentary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    Yeah, did a quick edit.

    The Aaliyah thing really hit home because i was a teenager almost around the same age as Aaliyah.

    Seeing this big, bald man in a relationship and manipulating a teenager into claiming to be older than she was, it was a horrible thing to see. I still don't know how he got away with that nonsense.
    If you omit the bald description, you could easily be talking about Slade Wilson.

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