Minorities in Comics and Other Media, etc

[ed2962]

Oh, we should probably mention "Gay best friend" is a real similar trope in movies/TV.

[Nate Grey]

I think it's because in recent years the conversation has shifted to how do we get more diverse casting, when is race/gender swapping in corporate IPs ok, how do we get more authentic voices in mainstream films etc. We forget a generation ago standard Hollywood practice was we can have one minority in our film but no more, and if there is more, they can't be the same minority.

Looking at some of the comments elsewhere, too, I'm thinking this is it. People either don't know or forgot that trope even existed...which could also mean this movie is coming out probably at least a decade too late.

[Nate Grey]

As for "black Harry Potter" well, I feel that already exists somewhere in YA fiction, but until then:

[Nate Grey]

Oh, we should probably mention "Gay best friend" is a real similar trope in movies/TV.

A movie deconstructing this would be great, too.

Anyway, I wish this was attached to the beginning of the movie for people that still don't get it, but, copyrights and all.

[80sbaby]

If the movie was going to be a straight satire and poking fun at the trope, as well as "white fragility" and the entitlement that comes with expecting minorities to make them comfortable, then it'd be ok. However swapping that out for the black guy to risk all magic just to get with a white woman is kind of tone deaf, to say the least. They could've at least made the love interest a black woman.

[babyblob]

As for "black Harry Potter" well, I feel that already exists somewhere in YA fiction, but until then:

I have never seen this before. it made me laugh my butt off.

[ed2962]

If the movie was going to be a straight satire and poking fun at the trope, as well as "white fragility" and the entitlement that comes with expecting minorities to make them comfortable, then it'd be ok. However swapping that out for the black guy to risk all magic just to get with a white woman is kind of tone deaf, to say the least. They could've at least made the love interest a black woman.

But that's just it...the black characters in these movies only exist to serve the white characters. If they have their own lives or even know other black people in universe, then they are no longer "magical negro" cliches. Again the movie is him not doing what he's supposed to be doing in these movies from 20 yrs ago. If this was about 80's horror/sci-fi movies it'd be about how he's the black guy that doesn't die...

[ed2962]

Movie about how the public would prefer stories about black cliches and stereotypes rather than authentic tales

[Will Evans]

On a negative note, there goes Jonathan Majors.

[Gryphon]

If the MCU switches to Dr Doom to get away from Kang as the villain...then they need to cast a Romani actor to play him. Doom's Romani heritage is a major part of the character

[Username taken]

On a negative note, there goes Jonathan Majors.

Yep, Marvel fired him real quick.

Good thing Loki S2 ended the way it did, it kind of gives them an out.

[skyvolt2000]

On a negative note, there goes Jonathan Majors.

For what amounts to probation and a fine according to some lawyers on one of Roland Martin's podcasts.

And for a case where evidence was not included and jury asking for more clarity.

And it's FUNNY to see in the Marvel movie thread someone say they need to background check folks.

If they did that a LOT of folks wouldn't have been hired at Marvel or Disney including TI, Tim Allen and others.

[MindofShadow]

If the MCU switches to Dr Doom to get away from Kang as the villain...then they need to cast a Romani actor to play him. Doom's Romani heritage is a major part of the character

Is it really?

Not even being facetious...

[Nate Grey]

Is it really?

Not even being facetious...

I'm more concerned with using Doom as a replacement villain which I think he deserves better than. I'd just bring back Wenwu, make the next Avengers a stealth Shang-Chi 2 since I doubt it would make sense to bring Wenwu back without his son.

[Gryphon]

Is it really?

Not even being facetious...

It is. It's a major part of his origin, being from a Romani family who were persecuted for their ancestry