Minorities in Comics and Other Media, etc

[Overhazard]

Its an event DC is doing right now. Basically Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman created a health and wellness facility to help heroes deal with PTSD. Everyone there ended up dead other than Booster Gold and Harley Quinn and they both are unreliable narrators.

Mental Health seems to be a thing with Tom King, HiC, Mister Miracle, Vision, his Batman run. I just hope unlike MM, he sticks the landing this time.

[KOSLOX]

Mental Health seems to be a thing with Tom King, HiC, Mister Miracle, Vision, his Batman run. I just hope unlike MM, he sticks the landing this time.

A lot of DC fans are really furious, but since I'm pretty casual about DC I think its a really interesting story.

[Agent Z]

Heroes In Crisis could have been an interesting story as an exploration of mental health. Unfortunately, it also decided to be a murder mystery which ends up muddying the waters. Basically, you have a bunch of people being killed while seeking help and of course, spoilers:

the culprit is a patient once again equating trauma with violence and murder.

end of spoilers

[KOSLOX]

Heroes In Crisis could have been an interesting story as an exploration of mental health. Unfortunately, it also decided to be a murder mystery which ends up muddying the waters. Basically, you have a bunch of people being killed while seeking help and of course, spoilers:

the culprit is a patient once again equating trauma with violence and murder.

end of spoilers

Your input covered in your spoiler tag is certainly a better critique of the story than the other complaints I've read.

I think those aspects are inherent in the genre, though what I find more interesting is the idea of someone who seemingly is well adjusted suddenly "snapping".

I've lost a friend to suicide, that no one saw coming, but in retrospect we probably could have. But people tend to soldier on and mask what is bothering them even to their closest friends.

Because of that I think it's interesting that Booster, who had a very public break, and Harley, who is basically a caricature of mental issues, were chosen as the "foils".

[Agent Z]

Your input covered in your spoiler tag is certainly a better critique of the story than the other complaints I've read.

I think those aspects are inherent in the genre, though what I find more interesting is the idea of someone who seemingly is well adjusted suddenly "snapping".

I've lost a friend to suicide, that no one saw coming, but in retrospect we probably could have. But people tend to soldier on and mask what is bothering them even to their closest friends.

Because of that I think it's interesting that Booster, who had a very public break, and Harley, who is basically a caricature of mental issues, were chosen as the "foils".

I think this story was ever going to be an effective depiction of someone with mental health issues it couldn't do that by following genre conventions. Which is Heroes in Crisis' biggest sin.

In a way, it's still relying on caricatures of mental health issues.

[Agent Z]

Your input covered in your spoiler tag is certainly a better critique of the story than the other complaints I've read.

I think those aspects are inherent in the genre, though what I find more interesting is the idea of someone who seemingly is well adjusted suddenly "snapping".

I've lost a friend to suicide, that no one saw coming, but in retrospect we probably could have. But people tend to soldier on and mask what is bothering them even to their closest friends.

Because of that I think it's interesting that Booster, who had a very public break, and Harley, who is basically a caricature of mental issues, were chosen as the "foils".

I think this story was ever going to be an effective depiction of someone with mental health issues it couldn't do that by following genre conventions. Which is Heroes in Crisis' biggest sin.

In a way, it's still relying on caricatures of mental health issues.

[Anthony Shaw]

Ever find yourself in a situation and ponder: what would Rick James do?

[skyvolt2000]

A lot of DC fans are really furious, but since I'm pretty casual about DC I think its a really interesting story.

They are mad because the story is being used to get rid or trash characters the head of the company has made it clear he doesn't like them because they do something to his favorites.
And for many this mess has been going on for 10+ years.

And they are also mad because this hatred of certain folks are not guys who couldn't sell a solo like Cyborg-it's folks who have had long runs, been on tv and are fan favorites.

The story you are reading is NOT the one Tom King wanted to tell. He was forced to add crap like killing by ordered of one person.
Same mess you saw with Identity Crisis. You could have told that story without killing Tim Drake's dad or Cap Boomerang.

Event stuff like this has to include killing of a set of characters that someone does not care for according to a former employee.
This makes what McDuffie said clearer back when Blackest Night was happening. I made a comment about Static might die in that event and he said "That is NOT allowed." Which explains why he was nowhere to be found in Blackest Night & Flashpoint.

Or why Duke vanished from Dark Metal event.

If you took Wally out of that mess and toss in say Cyborg-you would see a different reaction. Because you could show how dangerous Cyborg could be. Folks forget he has a motherbox in him.
HE does have motivation for PSTD. Dead mother, lover in another universe, he always get torn up by someone, he gets hacked into way too easy and his outdated look.

Or do what you suggested put it in a non cannon universe.

What Dan is doing NOW is playing with fire. Those fans are going to get TIRED of this nonsense. Sooner than later fans are going to start walking away.

[KOSLOX]

Ever find yourself in a situation and ponder: what would Rick James do?

Kidnap women and fire an AK at LA Rioters (with The Lemonheads Evan Dando)?

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

Mental health isn't specifically tied to the premise of this thread, but since it's sort of become a catch all thread for issues that are generally ignored or stigmatized in the broader comics media discussion I figure this is as good of a place as any to talk about Heroes In Crisis.

I think it's probably one of the better stories I've read, especially in conveying how isolation and ptsd can manifest seemingly out of nowhere and cause horrible actions.

The recent Justice League vs. The Fatal Five movie had a really interesting take on both PTSD and schizophrenia for two different characters. I'd recommend it, because it really did remind me of reading Heroes in Crisis.

[KOSLOX]

The recent Justice League vs. The Fatal Five movie had a really interesting take on both PTSD and schizophrenia for two different characters. I'd recommend it, because it really did remind me of reading Heroes in Crisis.

I really liked that movie.

[BroHomo]

And they are also mad because this hatred of certain folks are not guys who couldn't sell a solo like Cyborg-it's folks who have had long runs, been on tv and are fan favorites.

Gnark is a fan favorite now?

[BroHomo]

And they are also mad because this hatred of certain folks are not guys who couldn't sell a solo like Cyborg-it's folks who have had long runs, been on tv and are fan favorites.

Gnark is a fan favorite now?

[Surf]

Ever find yourself in a situation and ponder: what would Rick James do?

Uhhhmmm, not in any specific instance per sea but I'm a huge Rick the Ruler fan and a bi-weekly pay period rarely goes by where I don't listen to something he produced or performed. His personality came through in his music so much more than a lot of other artists so I guess I have a palate of what he might or might not do, from afar. Just so it's out there the man was a brilliant musician, arranger, composer and performer. He kept the lights on at Mowtown in the early 80s- yea that Mowtown so a mind like that does operate in a high functioning capacity. That narcotic ruined many a talent and many a life and fair or unfair, it's unfortunate that's the frame of most anybody that realized, way to late, what a hell of a drug coke was.

[MindofShadow]

You know, Marvel has no problem giving us some fan service

Okoye, Widow, and SW teaming up to fight Proxima is fan service

spoilers:

all the females just happen to team up in End game is female fan service

end of spoilers


And I am down for it. Movies should have fan service... it is made for the fans.

So when we gonna get that "all black heroes together" fan service lol?