So I have to go to comicons or be a jerk on twitter and assault every writer and creater and call them everything in the book because they dont create enough latino or latina characters?
Then if they do under pressure someone will accuse them of mischaracterization and being wrong as the writer because they are writing it as someone not of that culture.
Or do i go to warner bros headquarters and lambaste them for having tom hardy and shane west represent a latino character in Bane.
If a character sticks it sticks...do i wish living lightning was as popular as bishop when he first came out? Yes,does it always work? No
I am not gonna be a jerk to others and call them names just because i want special attention and then criticize them for trying.
Blame it on Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor.
She may be the first actress to actually put in some gym work for an action role.
I also give the side-eye to Zoe as Gamora with her spaghetti arms. Zoe could have at least toned up like Linda did. It makes sense that she started going long-sleeve after the first GoTG film.
Well first off,i do have a choice. It's called I don't have to read it. So your complaint is that they write about white characters. So I'm assuming when dave cockrum helped create storm and kirby with stan made black panther....were they still catering to a specific group or were they being daring?
So wait a minute they have to change an established character's race and culture and gender just ti satisfy a quota or your needs? That's lazy and disrespectful to any writer or artist who contributed to that established character.
You want more representation,then create a new character. Like your avatar pic. Bishop...one of the best characters to show up.
Kamala khan....another fine character. Bane a latino who defeated Batman. Robbie Reyes a NEW ghost rider. That doesnt seem to be enough for you. You want to erase what was there to satisfy your personal need. That is vanity.
Again you are confusing matters. Make all the new characters/sidekicks you want. Always can be two of the same. Miguel O'hara as well.
So again read carefully....before you start complaining about cyborg you have a Blade/Black Panther/even static shock as you complained about had his own cartoon.
I cannot force people to watch a robbie Reyes ghost rider film and then lie by saying he is the most popular character on the rostor. If i did that you know what it is called??? Facism..
My family immigrated here from a communist country. I will not have someone force me what to like or deny my opinion becuase the majority doesnt agree. I dont deny your opinon,you have no right to say mine is anyless valid
Speaking personally, I'm more concerned (in as much as I can be concerned) about these characters representing practical fitness. If you're like me and you cut your teeth reading those old Marvel Masterwork collections of 60's comics, you'll notice how extremely ugly superhero characters have become in the last 20 years or so. The guys are as ripped as Mr Olympic level body builders, and the dames look like ridiculous bikini models. It's become more about imposing some degree of photo realism/body dismorphia on the superhero fantasy. "Look at Superman's muscles, fatty! Yeah look at them. Hrrrrm, so poised, so tense, so very very peaked. You'll never look like that! Eat your donuts! Lick the crumbs! You're disgusting."
What's wild is that guys with big muscles are useless in a scrap compared to people with more practical builds. A serious body builder is in a constantly hyper atrophied state; they can run out of breath way more easily than smaller people, and when they get injured, it's waaaaaaay more devastating than for someone with a smaller build. When WWE wrestlers shifted from actual wrestlers to big body builders, the level of ruinous injuries sky-rocketed. I hate kids watching Marvel movies and thinking that Chris Pratt's 10 hours in a gym look is a healthy and sustainable goal for them. It's also nuts that people think the women aren't sexy enough.
On the comics side of things, I much prefer the works of guys like Jeff Smith, Darwyn Cooke, Matt Wagner, and David Aja. People who actually cartoon their characters in the classic sense and have their own powerful sense of style, compared to this trend for photo realistic drips of swear running down their asscracks, y'know.
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Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.
No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.
(You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)
You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.
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Man this conversation got nuts and off topic but... Chris Pratt and the Marvel guys aren't even huge lol. Imean, i say that as someone who puts lifting weights as my number one hobby but... come on lol. comparing chris pratt or hemsworth or whatever to a professional bodybuilder is crazy land lol. Chris Pratts peak look is 100% sustainable depending on their genetic potential.
i'd counter this with Skull Island lolThey didn't tape down nothing,watch her in Scott Pilgrim vs. The world. A broomstick with splinters has more curves.
To get back on topic lol
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That's effed up you calling bodybuilders and bikini models ugly. But seriously you gotta remember too those 60s/70s comics expressed ideals too somebody like Steve Reeves or wasn't typical. Steroids and plastic surgery changed the game for better or worse comics just reflect that.
Bodybuilders are actually really flexible, I think you see a lot more injuries with wrestling now because of the added high risk maneuvers and more grueling schedules. But honestly the fact that someone like Dusty Rhodes had a career is stunning if you look at him compared to wrestlers today-but even back then you had your ripped wrestlers like Rocky Johnson,Tony Atlas or Paul Orndorff and those dudes were no joke.
The scene of Chris Evan ripping the log of firewood in to two at the farm in Avengers AoU looks so comical to me every time I see it because you immediately have to compare that action to his shoulders and muscles lol! and scream impossible (but then there a lot of impossible things in superhero movies ��)
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John Byrne still works in the industry. He mainly works with IDW. He mainly does stuff for Star Trek. SO lets end that false narrative.
Where is your evidence to support this? Most of the time it was done is because certain comics book stores wouldn't order books with new characters ESPECIALLY POC no matter who the writer was. Not because they wouldn't sell but because the person on the cover wasn't straight white or male.Nor do i care for alterations to an established character to fit a quota. Stan Lee wasn't for it. Neither am i.
Hope Larson has to deal with on Goldie Vance and that is why they went OGN and still got a movie deal.
The Burnside Batgirl team also dealt with it doing Motor Crush.
Chuck Dixon raised heck about it-in the 80s when he did Strike with Tom Lyle.
Ben Aaronovitch-DR Who writer & creator of Rivers of London-ask HIM. He had to FIGHT with publishers because they kept trying to hide the fact the lead of his book is a black guy.
I can name more.
Stan didn't support it? Explain how Stan's last creation for Marvel was SHE HULK? What about Johnny Storm? Wasn't there a Human Torch before him?
Going by this logic-before you start complaining about cyborg you have a Blade/Black Panther/even static shock as you complained about had his own cartoon.
Storm fans need to can it because Moon Girl & Riri & Shuri have books. Along with Goldie Vance-who got a movie deal.
That is not how it will EVER work.
Cyborg fans have every right to be PISSED.
Storm fans have every right to be FURIOUS.
Duke Thomas fans have a right to be ANGRY.
They REFUSE to settle for what Miles & the gang have done. They want to know why is that NOT being done with their favorites.
They want to know why DC's "best" writer lacks the skills to offer a competent Duke Thomas in DC's flagship title known as Batman.
They want to know why Storm has to be in Logan's bed or in a black male bashing Black Panther book to get development.
They want to know why DC's top writers "CRAP" on Cyborg.
They want to know WHY in order to read about a well done black character-it has to be at another company.
Before you scream agenda-I am talking BUSINESS. Because what Dc won't do-OTHERS will. You don't send folks to competition. Yet DC is doing that.