Minorities in Comics and Other Media, etc

[G. Boney]

I forget, is Zendaya mixed or just light skinned?

She's biracial.

[aja_christopher]

So there are obviously going to be complaints about her not being a redhead, but how often do we think complaints of just the concept of a black mermaid will show up? I bring this up because it's honestly kind of shocking how often complaints of a lack of diversity in fantasy settings are met with replies that basically boil down to "that doesn't make sense".

My fantasy concept involves both racial issues as we know them (one human character, Sol, is Afro-Latina while another is Asian in origin) and the usual fantasy racial tropes (prejudice against dark elves, ogres, dragons, etc) -- personally, I think the two are not only compatible but likewise compliment each other, which is why one of the running themes is about two half-elven sisters -- one "light" [Dawn] and one "dark" [Dusk] -- born from the same human father but different mothers, and how the prejudices of the society around them helped shape them both as they grew up apart from one another.

Part of the reason that Drizzt is such a solid character is the way that he addresses such prejudices directly and counters the age-old stereotypes regarding "dark" elves -- it's ironic that many fantasy readers will find the "racial" struggles of a fictional character so compelling, yet complain when real issues of "race" that parallel those of our world are addressed in kind.

By the way, anyone who enjoys R.A. Salvatore's work might benefit from checking out the game Kingdoms of Amalur which he helped create, along with Todd MacFarlane of Spider-Man and Spawn fame.

[Overhazard]

Are red heads the white version of really dark skinned black people? white people's version of colorism lol?


I'll be more curious if King Triton is black then. I forget, is Zendaya mixed or just light skinned?

Maybe Triton can be black, and Jodi Benson, Ariel's voice actress can play her mom.

Wait a minute, can Zendaya sing? They need a really good singer.

[aja_christopher]

[Agent Z]

I don't know why Hollywood still doesn't realise their are black people with natural red hair.

[Agent Z]

Two articles on Psylocke's return to her original body


https://io9.gizmodo.com/marvels-maki...cha-1828426323

https://www.themarysue.com/marvel-my...n-madripoor-4/

[Username taken]

I know it's tongue and cheek and is suppose to be a bashing weapon.

Folks are now suddenly using Static as "proof" of diversity done right. Especially in attacks towards Ms Marvel & Riri.
10 years ago it was Static ruined the Teen Titans, got Young Justice axed and his book failing PROVED POC should not have books.

Now those same folks BITTER about Riri, Miles & Khan have suddenly changed their minds about Static.
Of course they are mainly talking about CARTOON Static.

Since his first solo series is not in trade beyond issue 5.
Wonder how they would react to first series if it came out today?

Static fights a WHITE bully
Static gets a gun
Static recruited by Holocaust to kill
Static fights a black terrorist
Static finds out about Rich being gay
Static saves the day in Worlds Collide event
Static lets Wade go after seeing him dealing drugs
Static with a girlfriend
Static deals with Sex
Static deals with Frieda's eating disorder
Static and school shootings
Static having a father
Static on a team with 2 Lesbian lovers
Static the ORIGINAL character every one screams for yet don't support.

LOLOLOLOL. A lot of people talking about Milestone comics didn't read them back in the day.

Fortunately, I'm old enough to say I read the books when they came out. When you want to talk about a line tackling very tough issues and in a truly (and i mean truly) diverse environment, then you talk about Milestone.

Those titles were so far ahead of their time it wasn't funny.

[Holt]

Kenya Barris is rebooting Bewitched with a black lead.

[skyvolt2000]

LOLOLOLOL. A lot of people talking about Milestone comics didn't read them back in the day.

Fortunately, I'm old enough to say I read the books when they came out. When you want to talk about a line tackling very tough issues and in a truly (and i mean truly) diverse environment, then you talk about Milestone.

Those titles were so far ahead of their time it wasn't funny.

Milestone gave you a lesson and you didn't KNOW you were being taught.

[skyvolt2000]

So there are obviously going to be complaints about her not being a redhead, but how often do we think complaints of just the concept of a black mermaid will show up? I bring this up because it's honestly kind of shocking how often complaints of a lack of diversity in fantasy settings are met with replies that basically boil down to "that doesn't make sense".

You mean like how it's fine for everyone to believe in Thor & talking Raccoons & trees but not Wakanda?

Some of those complaints come from the fact that the stories being used tend to be from ONE source.

So if you tell the story of Snow White-it's from a European source.

Or we get fantasy books and DESPITE some having POC in them-we see white washing or roles revised or parts of the book excluded.

Take the Dark Minds movie. I have "read" the books-I know what happens to the black guy & Asian girl at the end. How does the movie treat them? The girl ends up the same way in the both version. The black guy-

spoilers:

in the movie he gets the brunt of an expulsion, in the book he is accidentally shot by a friend's father-who he was trying to give a note to

end of spoilers

[Agent Z]

You mean like how it's fine for everyone to believe in Thor & talking Raccoons & trees but not Wakanda?

Some of those complaints come from the fact that the stories being used tend to be from ONE source.

So if you tell the story of Snow White-it's from a European source.

Or we get fantasy books and DESPITE some having POC in them-we see white washing or roles revised or parts of the book excluded.

Take the Dark Minds movie. I have "read" the books-I know what happens to the black guy & Asian girl at the end. How does the movie treat them? The girl ends up the same way in the both version. The black guy-

spoilers:

in the movie he gets the brunt of an expulsion, in the book he is accidentally shot by a friend's father-who he was trying to give a note to

end of spoilers

If I may ask, what becomes of the Asian girl?

[Mormel]

Ooh, I gotta try that lepat pisang one day.

[skyvolt2000]

If I may ask, what becomes of the Asian girl?

Oh it's nothing really bad in the way we EXPECT it.

spoilers:

She leaves with a group of kids in the movie and books. She is absent in the second book and returns in the third book. If they are doing a second film-she might not be there. The second book does more with the black guy.

end of spoilers

[numberthirty]

While the title of the article doesn't really reflect it, it looks like Sam Chung(and potentially Blindspot?) is going to be a part of the upcoming season of Iron Fist.

https://www.cbr.com/soule-hints-blin...ampaign=CBR-TW

[Vic Vega]

I wish I was shocked by this.

I'm just disgusted.

http://https://kotaku.com/mass-shoot...ida-1828612171