Minorities in Comics and Other Media, etc

[CliffHanger2]

I hear ya. The problem is that for every person that takes time to do personal research on a subject, far too many people are sheep. Too many think that when something is printed, posted, and/or televised, then it must be true.

Yup if it's a "documentary" it must be true.

[ed2962]

Some of the youtubers did about 30 videos about Brie Larson/Captain Marvel.

Like..WTF?

A famous comics industry person who's cashing in on the nerd rage read Richard Roper's review ( RR said it was ok) and tried to say something like, "See, even Roper doesn't like it," WHILE SHOWING THE REVIEW THAT LITERALLY SAID THE OPPOSITE. There's no way this pro is that dumb but he clearly thinks his audience is. There's some sort of strange pathology out there that the crowd continues to watch and send him ( and others) money.

[ed2962]

Key word: "said." White directors do the equivalent of what Jordan Peele talked about. They just don't announce that they're going to do it, so they can later dismiss any criticism by saying that Tom Cruise or Jake Gyllanhaal was simply the best actor for the role.

Oh, there's been producers and studio heads who've more or less admitted this is what they do, but they say it's cuz, "minority leads don't sell overseas."

[Moon Ronin]

And these are probably the same folks who were complaining about POC's possibly being selected in the Witcher television show, performing some bogus nonsense about the witcher being in Poland when it's not. Complete Hypocrites. They're just upset that he's doing an eye for an eye technique. Hell, most directors do the reverse where the only hire white people as leads, and yet no one says a peep because they don't outright say they're illustrating their bigotry.

It goes with the people that argued about Alita: Battle Angel was a Japanese product which means there is an expectation of race. Even though the writer set the story Gundam in Kansas. Robert Rodriguez was accused of "white washing" by casing Rosa Salazar (a Hispanic actress) So with the Witcher being written by a Polish writer in soviet Poland does the same argument apply when to comes to the expectation of race? There was even some that were upset that Daniel Dae Kim who took over for Ed Skrein on the role of Ben Daimio was Korean and not Japanese.

As to what Peele said vs what Larson said. Peele basically said that he makes the movies he wants with the people he wants, its really no big deal, that is how it should work. He did not say that he makes movies for certain people or that certain people should not criticize his movies. Larson on the other had complained that the bad reviews for A Wrinkle in Time were from white men that did not understand the move as it was not made for them "I don’t need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work about A Wrinkle in Time. It wasn’t made for him! I want to know what it meant to women of color, biracial women, to teen women of color.” (it really was not that great of a movie really and I rarely give what movie critics say much salt) any way from then on she said that she wanted more diversity in her press coverage. Oddly enough those she picked had great things to say about her as a person and pushing for such inclusion but really don't say much about her acting. To note she never said that Cpt. Marvel was not made for white guys she just in an untactful way suggest that movies be review by a wider spectrum of views.

[leo619]

It goes with the people that argued about Alita: Battle Angel was a Japanese product which means there is an expectation of race. Even though the writer set the story Gundam in Kansas. Robert Rodriguez was accused of "white washing" by casing Rosa Salazar (a Hispanic actress) So with the Witcher being written by a Polish writer in soviet Poland does the same argument apply when to comes to the expectation of race? There was even some that were upset that Daniel Dae Kim who took over for Ed Skrein on the role of Ben Daimio was Korean and not Japanese.

You're misunderstanding the expectation of race.

1st) The most important part, representation. Representation is clearly not equal, and thus the same lenses can't be applied since white people have pretty much dominated the lead roles and media representation to begin with. As such, when you barely have any action movies with Asian leads, taking away the few that could be opportunities for them is bound to cause conflict. Especially after the issues we've seen with Avatar the last airbender, Ghost In The Shell, Dragon Ball, etc.


2nd) People were upset about ANY poc being selected in the witcher's movie, not just the main character. After all, Big Hero 6 cast went from all Asian to a multi cultural cast, but the fact that the main character was still an Asian male caused the backlash to barely exist. So for people to be upset that any POC can exist in their white fantasy, well there's nothing more that needs to be said there.

[Gryphon]

I honestly feel like there hasn't been any outrage at all about what Peele said. Maybe I missed it.

Seems to be more "counter outrage" by people when no one really cared lol

Hell, Ive seen right wing media saying its his movies and his choice

[Gryphon]

RJ Cycler's Billy Cranston is coming to battle for the grid as dlc. perfect choice

https://realotakugamer.com/three-fre...e-for-the-grid

[Moon Ronin]

You're misunderstanding the expectation of race.

1st) The most important part, representation. Representation is clearly not equal, and thus the same lenses can't be applied since white people have pretty much dominated the lead roles and media representation to begin with. As such, when you barely have any action movies with Asian leads, taking away the few that could be opportunities for them is bound to cause conflict. Especially after the issues we've seen with Avatar the last airbender, Ghost In The Shell, Dragon Ball, etc.

This is why I went with example of Alita: Battle Angel, Hispanics are the largest minority in the united states and are vastly under represented in movies, especially in leading roles. Even with jokes such as Star Trek proves there are no Mexicans in the future, they didn't cast any in the newer reboots, Finely got one in Star Wars so we can quit saying Chewy is one. Anyway point being Rodriguez cast a Hispanic female in a lead role that was arguably a white female form Kansas from a book written by a Japanese man in the form of manga. In 2016 the number of speaking roles for Latinos in the top 100 movies were 3% African American and Asian speaking characters approximated their share of the population, respectively 13% and 5% (again Latinos are largest minority group but are the lest represented in movies). So you would think that Rosa Salazar being cast as the lead would be a pretty big deal but it was called "white washing" because of the source material being manga and the expectation of race was for it to be Asian. It had nothing to do with representation and everything to do with where the story came from. White people have that same expectation same reason not saying that in need to be 100% respected when it comes to casting but it is there and will always be just as it is for every one else.

Point is that no matter who is cast in what role some one is going to complain because of... representation... source material... "best" person for the role... what they had for breakfast.... what ever. As pointed out by the role of Ben Daimio an some cried foul that he was not Japanese.

[leo619]

This is why I went with example of Alita: Battle Angel, Hispanics are the largest minority in the united states and are vastly under represented in movies, especially in leading roles. Even with jokes such as Star Trek proves there are no Mexicans in the future, they didn't cast any in the newer reboots, Finely got one in Star Wars so we can quit saying Chewy is one. Anyway point being Rodriguez cast a Hispanic female in a lead role that was arguably a white female form Kansas from a book written by a Japanese man in the form of manga. In 2016 the number of speaking roles for Latinos in the top 100 movies were 3% African American and Asian speaking characters approximated their share of the population, respectively 13% and 5% (again Latinos are largest minority group but are the lest represented in movies). So you would think that Rosa Salazar being cast as the lead would be a pretty big deal but it was called "white washing" because of the source material being manga and the expectation of race was for it to be Asian. It had nothing to do with representation and everything to do with where the story came from. White people have that same expectation same reason not saying that in need to be 100% respected when it comes to casting but it is there and will always be just as it is for every one else.

Point is that no matter who is cast in what role some one is going to complain because of... representation... source material... "best" person for the role... what they had for breakfast.... what ever. As pointed out by the role of Ben Daimio an some cried foul that he was not Japanese.

It wasn't called "white washing" because she was Hispanic, it was considered white washing because people did not even know that she was even Hispanic until it was later revealed that she was. Hence why once it was discovered that she was Hispanic, the ties of it being "white washing" died down. Now people were still upset that an Asian person wasn't selected, but again, that's because Asian representation is very small to begin with. So when Asian based properties doesn't even have Asian based lead actors, you have the outbreak. It's similar to how George Zimmerman was regularly called white even though he himself is also Hispanic. Due to Hispanic not being a race, and people based their viewpoint on visual representation first, these misconceptions regularly happen.


And the second point specifically references the Witcher situation, which doesn't fit the criteria either discussed with Battle Alita or any other section, as we're talking about a lead character being replaced versus the banning of all races except for one type due to "fantastical association with Poland."

2nd) People were upset about ANY poc being selected in the witcher's movie, not just the main character. After all, Big Hero 6 cast went from all Asian to a multi cultural cast, but the fact that the main character was still an Asian male caused the backlash to barely exist. So for people to be upset that any POC can exist in their white fantasy, well there's nothing more that needs to be said there

[skyvolt2000]

You know what's effed up is. Some of these so-called pro-blacks would call Malcolm X a coon today for speaking out against problems in the community. Promoting self reliance and taking responsibility for one's actions.

Malcolm X would get called one however he would still be able to EXPLAIN why he said what he said.

There is too much money to be made from Black on Black crime. Be it an easy ride to political office, easy ride to rap music fame, book deals, movie deals, tv shows and so on. How much money has been made off the bloody bodies of black males killed by another black male?

The issue we have right now is no one wants to listen to concerns about the issues in the hood. Because talking about it means demanding ACCOUNTABILITY. It also means asking why is there a cherry picking agenda when it comes to support to help the community?
It also means understanding how Black on Black Crime empowers Institutionalized racism.

Hell, Ive seen right wing media saying its his movies and his choice

That is because if he does what he wants-it means less crying towards OTHERS who do exclude.

In other words if Jordan is making black horror films-no one is going to care about the lack of blacks in white horror films or how fast they get killed off.
In other words we finally get some balance.

There's no way this pro is that dumb but he clearly thinks his audience is. There's some sort of strange pathology out there that the crowd continues to watch and send him ( and others) money.

He made over 20 videos going after that film & Brie. Many of his followers do not care about FACTS. Because they can't be bothered to look stuff up themselves.
Look what Kwanza Osajyefo went through. Attacks on him, his wife, his job, her job & his books. A friend of that pro making 5 hours worth of videos attacking him.

[CliffHanger2]

Malcolm X would get called one however he would still be able to EXPLAIN why he said what he said.

There is too much money to be made from Black on Black crime. Be it an easy ride to political office, easy ride to rap music fame, book deals, movie deals, tv shows and so on. How much money has been made off the bloody bodies of black males killed by another black male?

The issue we have right now is no one wants to listen to concerns about the issues in the hood. Because talking about it means demanding ACCOUNTABILITY. It also means asking why is there a cherry picking agenda when it comes to support to help the community?
It also means understanding how Black on Black Crime empowers Institutionalized racism.

You're completely right ppl don't want to deal with reality. People like Tariq Nasheed calling ppl sambos for saying we need to do better and confront these issues. I'm like at this point I think that dude is C.I.A like wtf but yeah he's making money by keeping ppl feeling helpless with this "dominant culture" bullshit. I can't see how anyone who grew up in the hood or whatever can stay silent about this shit.
You grow up seeing ppl you know including friends and relatives being murdered and it's like afterwhile you can't just keep putting all this squarely on the shoulders of racism. There's definitely ppl benefiting from our conditions black and white and those are the ones who want ppl to shutup about it. Suspect mothaeffas man.

[Agent Z]

Multiple men have come forward on twitter that Cardi actually raped them. The first being a man named Kevin Smith.

This post is from last month but it's the only one I've seen covering the allegations.

https://wild949.iheart.com/featured/...im-speaks-out/

[MindofShadow]

Multiple men have come forward on twitter that Cardi actually raped them. The first being a man named Kevin Smith.

This post is from last month but it's the only one I've seen covering the allegations.

https://wild949.iheart.com/featured/...im-speaks-out/

She is an idiot .

Dudes gonna secure the bag. I don't blame them.

[Vic Vega]

She is an idiot .

Dudes gonna secure the bag. I don't blame them.

Am I supposed to feel bad for somebody whose dumb assery screws themselves?

Because I find this hilarious.

[Agent Z]

The cast for Netflix's live action Cowboy Bebop series has been revealed.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...-bebop-1199457