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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    I still believe that the ninja turtles are the only mutants worth caring about, and the Elephantmen if they count. The X-men are a bunch of pretty people who sulk in a mansion all day when they're not hooking up. It's MTV's Real World with Superpowers. I think the Hulk and She-Hulk being black would be interesting. Could play up the whole angry black man/woman stereotype.

    Edit: Im not sure about Namor, he has a history of lusting over blonde haired, blue eyed white women, I mean everyone came on to Sue at one point but Namor never quit.
    Reed needs better super powers to keep men away from Sue

    Ain't no one scared of him at all lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Reed needs better super powers to keep men away from Sue

    Ain't no one scared of him at all lol
    If Reed could fight like Luffy from one piece he'd be overpowered, if he could control his body on the molecular level like plastic man he'd be over powered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    If Reed could fight like Luffy from one piece he'd be overpowered, if he could control his body on the molecular level like plastic man he'd be over powered.
    Reed’s greatest power isn’t his stretching ability, it’s his ability to pretty much create any kind of device he needs at a whim. Other stretching heroes are more powerful then him, none are as smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    well, I think a lot of his stuff would be toned down if written today though.

    Plus, the bastard kids he murdered were trying to kill him lol. The teenage sidekick thing definitely wouldn't exist this day and age (still have no idea why writers are so obsessed with that). It would make sense that a character that is practically immortal wouldn't marry and might have kids here and there through the centuries.,

    I think modernized a touch, black logan would be cool. Just don't take away all his warts... that is what makes him interesting.
    I don't think Logan is ever meant to be a full samurai. Every hero needs an endgame that they will never see to full fruition in serialized fiction (unless he's gonna retire or die). It is the attempts under duress that makes a hero interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhazard View Post
    I still believe that the ninja turtles are the only mutants worth caring about, and the Elephantmen if they count. The X-men are a bunch of pretty people who sulk in a mansion all day when they're not hooking up. It's MTV's Real World with Superpowers. I think the Hulk and She-Hulk being black would be interesting. Could play up the whole angry black man/woman stereotype.

    Edit: Im not sure about Namor, he has a history of lusting over blonde haired, blue eyed white women, I mean everyone came on to Sue at one point but Namor never quit.
    Look up Jack Johnson, the boxer. Johnson was full of swag, and loved the snow bunnies.

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    I think people underestimate the strength of Reed Richard's love hand.

    Reed don't sweat none of those dirty macks trying to push up on Sue.

    Reed does his thing knowing full well Sue is going nowhere.

    That is game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Shaw View Post
    I think people underestimate the strength of Reed Richard's love hand.

    Reed don't sweat none of those dirty macks trying to push up on Sue.

    Reed does his thing knowing full well Sue is going nowhere.

    That is game.
    big dick energy lol
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    The FF member that is lacking, to me, is Johnny.

    Not only does his ladies shake him, but they often immediately hook up with someone else.

    I can see if she wants to be alone (and find herself), nope, she runs off with/falls for another man. Almost every time.

    I can't blame Johnny when Frankie Raye ran off with Galactus. When a god chooses your gal....not much you can do.

    Regardless of Ben's appearance, some lady (who is far from ugly) will hold deep affection towards him.

    Reed & Ben are good.

    But Johnny.....

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    Johnny fancies himself a ladies man, but dude got dumped for Quicksilver, Quick. Silver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf View Post
    Damn. Would this mean I'd have to give Moses Magnum back?
    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Shaw View Post
    I honestly could not handle Wolverine being black. Perhaps the 1980's Wolverine could work as black. The guy who tried to live like a Samurai is my favorite version. But since the 1990's, writers have added too many contradictory traits to Logan.

    Logan seems too much like a blatant white male power fantasy to me.

    I could not handle a black Logan binge-drinking, pushing up on women in committed relationships, attacking allies over slights, having underage female sidekicks, a graveyard full of murdered lovers, whoring around, and perhaps worst of all......having a slew of bastard offspring that he went on to murder.

    Cyclops as a black man could work for me.

    Namor kinda reminds me of legendary boxer Jack Johnson.
    It's possible to have a black Logan and leave out most of the problematic stuff.

    I do find the "live like a samurai" thing pretty funny given real-life samurai weren't much better than Logan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Reed needs better super powers to keep men away from Sue

    Ain't no one scared of him at all lol
    There's a scene in Heroes Reborn Fantastic Four were Reed is offered a part in a porn film but turns it down. Sue comments that now no-one but her will ever know the real reason he's called Mr Fantastic.

    Speaking of FF, I once joked that the reason Sue wasn't black in the recent film was because a black woman whose powers are being invisible and putting up barriers to defend herself might have been too on the nose.

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    The entire point of the X-Men is to give privileged white kids a vessel through which they can see themselves as the oppressed outcasts that nobody understands. Making them minorities would kind of defeat the purpose of that, plus people don't necessary need a fictional outlet to experience prejudice when they have enough of that in their actual lives, better to read some stories that show them doing something positive and succeeding instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    The entire point of the X-Men is to give privileged white kids a vessel through which they can see themselves as the oppressed outcasts that nobody understands. Making them minorities would kind of defeat the purpose of that, plus people don't necessary need a fictional outlet to experience prejudice when they have enough of that in their actual lives, better to read some stories that show them doing something positive and succeeding instead.
    That might have been the original point but it doesn't have to be that way.

    Also, experiencing prejudice and doing something positive are not mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Wolverine, easy, He'd be a slave. His origin fits too well



    change it to illegitmate son of slave owner and slave



    I mean.. come on! fits too well

    When he "snaps" and his mutation manifest, it can be because of his mom getting abused again.

    Even the experimented on thing fits. He could also bounce between wars easier due ot how blacks were segregated... his "exploits" in war wouldn't be widespread knowledge
    That is kinda brilliant, I was working on short story that is my take on the X-men. And my Wolverine like long living character who was originally "Yasuke" who was slave then went on show up in different eras. The experiment thing fits and you have a real life event like Tuskegee Syphilis incident to tie into it.
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