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    So I'll be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about DC retiring the Vertigo line. Their logic makes a lot of sense, but their wording is false. They stated that nudity, edgier violence and etc is more mainstream over the years. But then I recall the censorship over batman damned where they decided showing a nude batman was going too far.
    So safe to say I'm highly suspect that vertigo is going to have their content neutered after the merger.

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    Segal is one of the biggest frauds around




    He has multiple accusations against him as well, with regard to sexual misconduct

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    Quote Originally Posted by leo619 View Post
    So I'll be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about DC retiring the Vertigo line. Their logic makes a lot of sense, but their wording is false. They stated that nudity, edgier violence and etc is more mainstream over the years. But then I recall the censorship over batman damned where they decided showing a nude batman was going too far.
    So safe to say I'm highly suspect that vertigo is going to have their content neutered after the merger.
    You could make the point that a mature Batman is a contradiction in terms.

    Nobody wants "Mickey Mouse After Dark" either.

    I just think that DC wants Creator Owned to go away and canning Vertigo is the easiest way to do it. DC is at its best when it remembers that
    its a publishing company and I can't think that getting rid of the line that brought them Preacher and Y: The Last Man is a good idea for them.

    It might make Corporate happy but their judgement had been continually been proven to be flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charmed View Post
    I used to love The Rundown back in the day. It's probably my 2nd most rewatchable The Rock film. The first has to go to The Game Plan. Don't make fun, I was 12 at the time lol
    Don't feel bad. I like The Game Plan too. It along with the Rundown and Scoprion King are my favorite Rock movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    "Anybody seen Richie?"

    So priceless.

    Also, "Anticipation Of Death Is Worse Than Death Itself..." on the wall in Hard To Kill.
    Oh On Deadly Ground the slap hands game. "Get your hands up! get your hands up!" Still cracks me up haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    You could make the point that a mature Batman is a contradiction in terms.

    Nobody wants "Mickey Mouse After Dark" either.

    I just think that DC wants Creator Owned to go away and canning Vertigo is the easiest way to do it. DC is at its best when it remembers that
    its a publishing company and I can't think that getting rid of the line that brought them Preacher and Y: The Last Man is a good idea for them.

    It might make Corporate happy but their judgement had been continually been proven to be flawed.

    Eh, not really the same. Mickey Mouse isn't hanging people upside down from the roof tops asking people who their drug supplier is. It still points to the asinine behavior of how adult can mean violence to gears of war level, yet showing an imprint of a penis means all hell breaks loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Don't feel bad. I like The Game Plan too. It along with the Rundown and Scoprion King are my favorite Rock movies.
    It really was a good movie. I think I'm going to rewatch it one of these days to see how it holds up.

    Scorpion King was awesome, too. I think I've only seen it twice, but I do remember liking it both times.

    Honestly, I need to rewatch all three of these movies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    You could make the point that a mature Batman is a contradiction in terms.

    Nobody wants "Mickey Mouse After Dark" either.

    I just think that DC wants Creator Owned to go away and canning Vertigo is the easiest way to do it. DC is at its best when it remembers that
    its a publishing company and I can't think that getting rid of the line that brought them Preacher and Y: The Last Man is a good idea for them.

    It might make Corporate happy but their judgement had been continually been proven to be flawed.
    It's not a good idea because all you are doing is sending folks to OTHER companies.

    So it goes from Preacher and Kitchen getting movies & shows and DC profiting to Stuff like that getting movie and tv deals and Image befitting.


    And where does Milestone fit under this? If they don't want creator owned stuff-Dc doesn't own them.

    I would think the line starts to the left of IDW, Image, After Shock, Action Lab, Scout, Dynamite, Ahoy, Dark Horse or Black Mask wanting Static.

    If not Marvel who wanted them in 1997. Static crap talking Deadpool or Peter Parker or going to Wakanda.

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    The contracts with Vertigo went to shit a few years back anyhow . Once Berger left the line went down slowly. Berger and Bond are with Dark Horse and IDW doing creator owned material and the indies have it now. Maybe in a decade Warners will allow them to do creator owned work again . But the contracts need to be fixed 1st.



    Now speaking action stars....Stallone is back to take his place among the greats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    It's not a good idea because all you are doing is sending folks to OTHER companies.

    So it goes from Preacher and Kitchen getting movies & shows and DC profiting to Stuff like that getting movie and tv deals and Image befitting.



    And where does Milestone fit under this? If they don't want creator owned stuff-Dc doesn't own them.

    I would think the line starts to the left of IDW, Image, After Shock, Action Lab, Scout, Dynamite, Ahoy, Dark Horse or Black Mask wanting Static.

    If not Marvel who wanted them in 1997. Static crap talking Deadpool or Peter Parker or going to Wakanda.
    A couple of things...

    - The idea that it is "Sending..." versus the likely reality that you can't "Send..." work that was going to see Image as it's first choice sticks out. It's like buying into the idea that Frank Zappa would want a deal with major label subsidiary once he could do everything himself. Prince? There will probably come a time. Zappa? You got to ignore reality to buy into the premise.

    - As for "It goes from...", the reality isn't exactly what you are seeing it as. Think about the amount of time Preacher ran as a title. Now, think about how many seasons(and some short seasons, at that) Preacher will have wound up running before AMC took the hatchet to it. Never mind the assumption that there will be much of a profit from the other property you mentioned.

    Never mind that Scalped wound up a casualty of whatever happened with Sinclair/WGN.

    It's not exactly "Have IP/Wait For Money To Come Rolling In..."

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    Forgiveness Is a White Privilege

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    This is a parable of America. It illustrates the double standard that excuses white kids from their shenanigans while black four-year-olds get guns in their faces for walking out of dollar stores with dolls. This is why people excuse the actions of Covington Catholic MAGAts but understand why cops detain 12-year-olds playing in the park at gunpoint. It’s why media outlets referred to mass murderer Adam Lanza as “bright and troubled” and called Laquan McDonald “wild” and “dangerous.”

    It’s why accused murderer Kenneth Gleason was called a “clean-cut American kid;” Parkland shooter Nickolas Cruz was called a “broken child” and Mark Anthony Conditt was called a “troubled person motivated by frustrations. Meanwhile, police point guns at three-year-old black toddlers, handcuff innocent, black 10-year-olds and drag black high school girls down the hall.

    But poor Kyle.

    After searching the Republican scriptures, it is obvious to me that Kashuv’s parents didn’t raise him right. I understand that the white Bible says “act like a racist, get treated like one,” but Kyle clearly didn’t deserve this. Where’s his seventy times seven? Doesn’t he get 489 more chances to be racist? Everyone knows that people get less racist as they grow older, right?

    If only his father had worn a “Don’t Say Nigger” t-shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post


    Now speaking action stars....Stallone is back to take his place among the greats.

    Dude's been there. Unlike any of the others, including the GOAT Arnold, he is still making movies that don't suck in the last decade lol. Expendables 2 was legit enjoyable because it embraced the camp (3 was terrible, 1 was ok), and 2008 Rambo was awesome and Rambo 5 looks awesome too
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Dude's been there. Unlike any of the others, including the GOAT Arnold, he is still making movies that don't suck in the last decade lol. Expendables 2 was legit enjoyable because it embraced the camp (3 was terrible, 1 was ok), and 2008 Rambo was awesome and Rambo 5 looks awesome too
    Since I'm off I'll weigh the action films and who is better....Arnold or Stallone.


    Arnold action films :


    Conan
    Conan the Destroyer
    Terminator
    Commando
    Raw Deal
    Predator
    The Running Man
    Red Heat
    Total Recall
    Terminator 2
    Last Action Hero
    True Lies
    Eraser
    End of Days
    The 6th Day
    Collatoral Damage
    Terminator 3
    The Last Stand
    Sabotage
    Terminator Genisys
    Killing Gunther
    Terminator : Dark Fate

    Total Action Films (action comedy counting as well) - 22



    Stallone Action Films

    Death Race 2000
    Nighthawks
    Rambo : First Blood
    Rambo : First Blood II
    Cobra
    Over the Top
    Rambo III
    Tango & Cash
    Cliffhanger
    Demolition Man
    The Specialist
    Judge Dredd
    Assassins
    Daylight
    Get Carter
    Avenging Angelo
    Spy Kids 3-D : Game Over
    Rambo
    Bullet to the Head
    Expendables
    Guardians of Galaxy Vol.2
    Escape Plan 2 : Hades
    Escape Plan 3 : The Extractors
    Rambo : Last Blood

    Total Action Films (including comedy action films) - 24 .

    Now the total for each increases once you add that they did 3 films together (Expendables 2,3 & Escape Plan) . That bumps it up. I think Arnold had 3 huge classic action films in his hey day for sure. Conan , Terminator 2 and Total Recall are hard to deny here. Those 3 are ones Stallone can never really top even though he's came close with a number of films.

    His Rambo series would come close. I'd say both men are likely on that Action Star Mt. Rushmore together. Given what they have done as a whole. Together combined the 2 men have nearly 50 action films since the 1980's. Both are in their 70's and look in awesome shape. I mean Stallone's workout is just fucking intense in his 70's where he's out working guys in a gym half his age !




    (Makes me wonder WTF was he doing in his 30's/40's at that age in gym ?)


    I do think one negative for each man is they both tried a market they couldn't really crack. For Stallone it was comedy. He tried it twice as we saw in 2 decades. He tried it with Rhinestone and then he tried it years later with Oscar and Don't Stop or My Mom Will Shoot. Arnold cracked that market so well with Twins and Kindergarten Cop.

    Now where Stallone got Arnold was....Stallone can write good drama films and even got nomination for his screen play (Rocky) for an Oscar. It won best picture so I think its pretty safe to say Stallone has this one. I really scrolling through couldn't find an Arnold drama film beyond Maggie in recent years. I think what made Arnold better was his action and comedic roles.

    But each man has their strengths and weaknesses.
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    Police Find Belongings Of Missing YouTuber Etika On Manhattan Bridge

    Police found the backpack and phone of gaming YouTuber Desmond “Etika” Amofah, who has been missing since Wednesday, on New York’s Manhattan Bridge last night, the New York Post reported.

    On YouTube, Amofah, 29, amassed a following of more than 800,000 subscribers by playing and streaming Nintendo games. Amofah disappeared on Wednesday night after posting a YouTube video discussing his struggles with suicidal ideation. As he walks down the street, he says, “It was a fun life. I had a great time. It was great. But for it to be cut so short—it’s fucked.” Friends and family have not heard from Amofah since before the video went live at midnight on Wednesday.

    Amofah has a long history of public struggles with mental health. In October, Amofah uploaded pornography to his YouTube channel, leading YouTube to suspend it, and posted the message, “And now, it’s my turn to die. I love you all.” (He later apologized for worrying his fans.) In April, police in riot gear broke into Amofah’s home after, as a police representative told Kotaku, he “was threatening suicide in the apartment” and has a “psych history.” On Instagram, Amofah livestreamed the incident to over 19,000 viewers. In May, Amofah got in a physical altercation with a police officer or security guard. Both episodes resulted in hospital visits.
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    Police Find Belongings Of Missing YouTuber Etika On Manhattan Bridge



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    I started watching his youtube channel while I was waiting for Xenoblade Chronicles X to drop. He didn't seem like a bad guy. I'm sorry it came to this; He was a young man with a lot of living left to do.
    The woman in the shadows with the elegant sigh.
    What could a common man do to catch her eye?
    Her easy manner shames me, oh I hate myself so much!
    I tremble and I'm breathless and I'm begging for her touch.
    She sees my anguished urges but continues smirking by,
    If I dare to follow her, it's likely that I'll die.
    But even as she's feeding, as my body's torn apart,
    Will she think upon me kindly?
    When she slowly eats my heart?

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