Minorities in Comics and Other Media, etc

[Username taken]

So Fannie Willis. First off insert the Japanese Parliament meme on my behalf. F'real though, there is macro level of ethical behavior that I know, heard it my whole life, to be true and disproportionately adopted in regards to the day to day actions of most Black folks. That's your frame. She IS being held to a standard that most men, white or otherwise in many cases, would not... on a couple of fronts if you've followed much of the case. That said I feel at the very least the situation might could have been handled a bit tighter on her end considering? But imo that goes fro ANYONE, two things can be true all things considered. THAT said, on her behalf, WHOM you get with... we never take proximity as a driving force and THAT is across the board- a shared experience for everybody. Is what it is if you think about it. Also, this is Atlanta, they move different. Not just comparatively speaking for what goes on in the South but as a group overall unto themselves, makes a difference when speaking about upwardly mobile folks. Last, the scrutiny is of course magnified and even parts of this speaks to the above post in regard to rampant bias. There is an implicit adherence to a standard weather it is physical, or emotional or even when put upon by each other, an sticking to of broad rules of conduct that's much harsher on some than others. She's handling it best as possible so far I think fwiw.

While I don't think Fani Willis has done anything illegal, black people are held to a higher standard than other people. Ms. Willis should have kept that in mind and applied a little more discretion.

Except you work in an already diverse environment, if you're in highly skilled, highly paid environment, you're going to get a lot of questions around your expertise and qualifications. This won't be to your face but behind your back, you best believe that a lot of people don't feel you should be doing the work you're doing. It's this nonsense that led to the creation of DEI programs in the first instance, at the risk of offending people, a lot of my white colleagues just don't get it.

Willis is getting dragged so badly by right-wing media that some people are saying she's an example of DEI appointment failings. Fani Willis is an elected official.

[G. Boney]

Disney isn't woke... they tried to erase an interracial kiss from a tv movie,

What movie is this?

[ed2962]

I swear to....ugh. I guess it's because Disney owns so much stuff (which is it's own problem) that it's become a major battle field in the endless waltz of the culture war. "DISNEY IS WOKE BECAUSE THEY REMADE A MOVIE WITH A BLACK LEAD, THIS IS DEEPLY OFFENSIVE TO ME, I MUST MAKE SEVERAL VIDEOS WITH CLICKBAITY THUMBNAILS."

Disney isn't woke. They're a corporation that's been around for 100 years, they're doing what every corporation does, going where the money is, appearing to be woke just looks good from a pr standpoint. They've screwed with copyright laws, they tried to erase an interracial kiss from a tv movie, we had a black president before a black bachelor, and of course, the way they did John Boyega. None of that screams woke.

I agree with all of this.

I would even argue that the chuds don't actually hate wokeness, what they hate is bad writing. A lot of this "woke" stuff rests on it's laurels and is very poorly written.

However, I don't give them the benefit of the doubt for not liking the writing...the majority of these folks are complaining about media they haven't engaged with and in fact many cases won't be available for months. And in some cases hasn't even in production yet. Case in point, the rumors about the new Pirates of the Caribbean movies...Disney hasn't confirmed anything and not one frame has been shot but the rumor is Ayo Edebiri will lead a cast of new characters and that's enough for some folks to lose their **** about so-called "Woke Disney" ruining their alleged "beloved" characters.

[ed2962]

So Fannie Willis. First off insert the Japanese Parliament meme on my behalf. F'real though, there is macro level of ethical behavior that I know, heard it my whole life, to be true and disproportionately adopted in regards to the day to day actions of most Black folks. That's your frame. She IS being held to a standard that most men, white or otherwise in many cases, would not... on a couple of fronts if you've followed much of the case. That said I feel at the very least the situation might could have been handled a bit tighter on her end considering? But imo that goes fro ANYONE, two things can be true all things considered. THAT said, on her behalf, WHOM you get with... we never take proximity as a driving force and THAT is across the board- a shared experience for everybody. Is what it is if you think about it. Also, this is Atlanta, they move different. Not just comparatively speaking for what goes on in the South but as a group overall unto themselves, makes a difference when speaking about upwardly mobile folks. Last, the scrutiny is of course magnified and even parts of this speaks to the above post in regard to rampant bias. There is an implicit adherence to a standard weather it is physical, or emotional or even when put upon by each other, an sticking to of broad rules of conduct that's much harsher on some than others. She's handling it best as possible so far I think fwiw.

I think she handled it extremely well. At first her lawyer was going to argue that she shouldn't have to but Willis changed her mind and decided to take the stand. She made mincemeat out of Trump's lawyers to the degree that they decided they weren't going ask any questions today after all to her.

[Overhazard]

What movie is this?

Don't look under the bed. A DCOM from the late 90's, towards the end, the two leads, a white girl and a black boy kiss, now this being Disney and all, it doesn't go further than a kiss, but the higher ups wanted it cut, the director had to fight to keep the kiss in.

[skyvolt2000]

https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...s/72492410007/

No "stop anti-black hate crime" bill or "protect black people" bill or "protect black children" bill. Nothing. Even smaller stuff like the "CROWN act" died in the Senate. To a lot of political strategists, black people and minorities are treated more as "statistics" than anything else.

Despite my own personal political stance, I sort of understand why a lot of black Americans don't really feel enthusiastic about voting this year.

They are politically (and physically) under siege, and no one (that has any real power) is saying and/or doing anything substantial (or even symbolic).

When the ONLY election you bother to show up for is President of the United States-what do you expect?

We have to VOTE in every election. EVERY election.

How many bills have the Republicans party KILLED? Congress as a whole has passed only 30 bills. The lowest in history. Why because MAGA Republicans have been allowed to run wild in Congress with false information and witch hunts.

Those bills you speak of were passed in the Democratic Senate and were BURIED in the Republicans controlled House.

And some of those bills did have support of some Republicans-who TIRED of the MAGA ones. However they are not in states that can get rid of those folks.

Republicans in California are NOT the same as the ones in Kentucky.

[MindofShadow]

I get the voting apathy.

But things are so clear cut right now, it doesn't really feel like a time to "make a statement" by abstaining from voting or throwing a vote away.

If there were like... shades of grey... i'd get it.

It really isnt' anymore. If a POC votes republican right now, you are a GD fool and deserve what happens.

I'm hoping someday the GOP starts to go back towards center a bit because what is going on now sucks. TWo party system always sucked but rigth now it is just ridiculous.

[80sbaby]

To answer your last question, it's because racism is the poor man's war. The wealthy need racism to divide us so that we don't team up against them. It's a distraction and one they've successfully used for centuries. Think about the civil war. Most of the soldiers fighting for the Confederacy didn't even own slaves because they couldn't afford to. They basically killed and died for the benefit of the wealthy. And this is continuing today.

I also have a theory that this fear of us joining forces is why/how MLK, Malcolm and Fred Hampton were finally assassinated. It wasn't until after Martin started talking more about socialism and who we should all be fighting against (greedy capitalists) that he was murdered. Same with Malcolm returning from Mecca and being more inclusive in his messaging. And of course, Fred famously meeting with the Klan. They didn't care when those people were only focused on black people exclusively but Powers That Be do not want the "99%" coming together. That's my theory, anyways.

[80sbaby]

I get the voting apathy.

But things are so clear cut right now, it doesn't really feel like a time to "make a statement" by abstaining from voting or throwing a vote away.

If there were like... shades of grey... i'd get it.

It really isnt' anymore. If a POC votes republican right now, you are a GD fool and deserve what happens.

I'm hoping someday the GOP starts to go back towards center a bit because what is going on now sucks. TWo party system always sucked but rigth now it is just ridiculous.

Here's the problem...when is the right time then? Don't get me wrong, I plan to vote for Biden but I also understand that we are going to seriously need to have the uncomfortable conversation about using our only political capital, i.e. withholding our vote. Yet every time that comes up, people say "not now." Well again I ask, if not now then when? Because as it stands, the Republicans will never not be a threat for the foreseeable future. Yet we shouldn't be expected to continue propping up s status quo that doesn't actually serve us. We are going to have to do something drastic and soon. Even if that leads to hardships.

[Username taken]

Here's the problem...when is the right time then? Don't get me wrong, I plan to vote for Biden but I also understand that we are going to seriously need to have the uncomfortable conversation about using our only political capital, i.e. withholding our vote. Yet every time that comes up, people say "not now." Well again I ask, if not now then when? Because as it stands, the Republicans will never not be a threat for the foreseeable future. Yet we shouldn't be expected to continue propping up s status quo that doesn't actually serve us. We are going to have to do something drastic and soon. Even if that leads to hardships.

Exactly this.

[Malvolio]

Refusing to vote isn't the statement you think it is. You might be saying "I reject you," but what politicians of every stripe hear is "I don't care, " so their reply is, if they don't care, why should we care about them?

[80sbaby]

Refusing to vote isn't the statement you think it is. You might be saying "I reject you," but what politicians of every stripe hear is "I don't care, " so their reply is, if they don't care, why should we care about them?

I disagree. We've never actually abstained from voting en masse, so claiming it doesn't make a statement is false. What you're saying is the same tired thing that's been said for years. But you keep doing the exact same thing while expecting a different result, I guess?

[Username taken]

Refusing to vote isn't the statement you think it is. You might be saying "I reject you," but what politicians of every stripe hear is "I don't care, " so their reply is, if they don't care, why should we care about them?

It's not so much a matter of not voting as it is holding elected officials accountable.

The GOP has already made it clear that they don't care about minority interests and these votes go to the democrats. Right now, it looks like these voters are being taken for granted.

The question is how does our vote translate into tangibles. If said votes does not translate into meaningful gains for voting blocs, then why vote at all? The folks getting these votes are going to have to convince their voters on how and why things will get worse if they refuse to vote for them (make no mistake, I don't support not voting, I'm just explaining why so many minority groups are expressing dissatisfaction with the way things are now).

[Adam Allen]

I don't think that not participating in a system is a way to gain more power in that system. I think that the huge mass of Americans that do not vote effectively make themselves irrelevant to the electoral system; although they clearly exist in real life, they do not count, when it comes to who gets into office or stays there.

Not like I'm campaigning here for a third party, or spoiler voting, but I do think that voting for a third, losing candidate is probably preferable to not voting at all. At least then, there can be consideration from the other two parties of the number of active, involved voters that their party apparently does not speak to.

Voter Turnout in US Elections, 2018-2022

The elections of 2018, 2020 and 2022 were three of the highest-turnout U.S. elections of their respective types in decades. About two-thirds (66%) of the voting-eligible population turned out for the 2020 presidential election – the highest rate for any national election since 1900. The 2018 election (49% turnout) had the highest rate for a midterm since 1914. Even the 2022 election’s turnout, with a slightly lower rate of 46%, exceeded that of all midterm elections since 1970.While sizable shares of the public vote either consistently or not at all, many people vote intermittently. Given how closely divided the U.S. is politically, these intermittent voters often determine the outcome of elections and how the balance of support for the two major political parties swings between elections.

Overall, 70% of U.S. adult citizens who were eligible to participate in all three elections between 2018 and 2022 voted in at least one of them, with about half that share (37%) voting in all three.

US Congress is paralyzed by dysfunction, but they are elected by less than half of the people who could have a voice. And yah, of course black people are not close to 50% of the population, but if the majority of black people did consistently and reliably vote?

I don't know. Anyone know what percentage of potential black voters do in fact consistently show up? Afraid my unpaid researching mojo just tapped out...

[Username taken]

https://deadline.com/2024/02/paramor...ub-1235829012/

*sighs*

Paramore has announced that they “will not accept any acknowledgement or honor from the TN House” for its Grammy wins after a lawmaker objected to similar honors for singer/songwriter Allison Russell.

The group accuse Tennessee’s Republican-led House of Representatives of “blatant racism” after a lawmaker paused a resolution honoring Black singer-songwriter Russell’s recent Grammy win.

The House Republican Caucus Chair who objected to the resolution honoring Russell, Rep. Jeremy Faison (R-Tenn.), claimed “The resolution wasn’t blocked” in a statement.

Good on Paramore for saying it the way it is.

That being said, apart from a few black outlets, the mainstream media didn't even cover the story until Paramore spoke up.