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[master of read]

It reminds me of Asuka losing to Charlotte right before Mania, people defended that by saying it'd "lead to something moving forward." Nope, it led to jack all for her, it was just done to get her out of the way of the Becky/Charlotte/Ronda stuff. And this was just done to get Kofi out of the way and bring back Super-Brock for the Cain stuff, that's it.

People keep having blind faith in WWE when they've shown over and over and over again that they don't deserve it. As a fan of Asuka, and Braun, and Joe, and Rusev, etc, I'm done being "patient with WWE because it never pays off. If something good comes of this, Then cool, but I have no confidence in that happening.

They literally threw Kofi aside and Brock moved on to the next thing not 2 minutes later. He's done in this position.

People have no trust in WWE because they haven't earned it. Trust must be earned and WWE has disappointed people so many times that they simply have no faith in them at this point. And that's WWE'S fault, not the fans.

to use another example, take "one piece". part of its appeal is that there are so many mysteries that haven't been touched on, explored further or answered yet. and yet people still love it. why? because any time oda answers one of these mysteries or drops some dank lore like in the last couple of chapters, you feel like your time and faith have been rewarded. because oda has a good track record of doing that for his fans.

these days, anytime the E rewards us for our time, patience and faith, they do something else to **** it up.

[XPac]

It reminds me of Asuka losing to Charlotte right before Mania, people defended that by saying it'd "lead to something moving forward." Nope, it led to jack all for her, it was just done to get her out of the way of the Becky/Charlotte/Ronda stuff. And this was just done to get Kofi out of the way and bring back Super-Brock for the Cain stuff, that's it.

People keep having blind faith in WWE when they've shown over and over and over again that they don't deserve it. As a fan of Asuka, and Braun, and Joe, and Rusev, etc, I'm done being "patient with WWE because it never pays off. If something good comes of this, Then cool, but I have no confidence in that happening.

They literally threw Kofi aside and Brock moved on to the next thing not 2 minutes later. He's done in this position.

People have no trust in WWE because they haven't earned it. Trust must be earned and WWE has disappointed people so many times that they simply have no faith in them at this point. And that's WWE'S fault, not the fans.

The difference is no one cared Asuka lost. Had Asuka gotten the backlash that Bryan, Becky, or Kofi got she would have been pushed harder too.

And if Kofi doesn't get the support that he got prior to Wrestlemania, he might not either.

But its fine to NOT have blind faith. Lack of faith is precisely why Bryan and Becky got the pushes they got in the first place. If people thought otherwise, we wouldn't get the heat we got. It would be just like Asuka. The best thing fans can do for Kofi is to complain enough to the point where it makes it on tv. Make it feel like a movement championing him like Wrestlemania.

[Immortal Weapon]

The difference is no one cared Asuka lost. Had Asuka gotten the backlash that Bryan, Becky, or Kofi got she would have been pushed harder too.

And if Kofi doesn't get the support that he got prior to Wrestlemania, he might not either.

But its fine to NOT have blind faith. Lack of faith is precisely why Bryan and Becky got the pushes they got in the first place. If people thought otherwise, we wouldn't get the heat we got. It would be just like Asuka. The best thing fans can do for Kofi is to complain enough to the point where it makes it on tv. Make it feel like a movement championing him like Wrestlemania.

No one cared Asuka lost? Where were you when it happened? Just this thread alone there were pages of pissed off folk. My other wrestling circles were pissed about Asuka dropping the title. Having the Smackdown title added nothing to the main-event and Asuka and some other woman lost a prominent spot at mania because of it. Asuka were heartbroken seeing her regulated to the battle royale and then forming a tag team with Kairi that lead to nothing.

[XPac]

No one cared Asuka lost? Where were you when it happened? Just this thread alone there were pages of pissed off folk. My other wrestling circles were pissed about Asuka dropping the title. Having the Smackdown title added nothing to the main-event and Asuka and some other woman lost a prominent spot at mania because of it. Asuka were heartbroken seeing her regulated to the battle royale and then forming a tag team with Kairi that lead to nothing.

It's not enough to just complain online ... that has to translate into tv. You could tell the crowd was behind Daniel Bryan, Becky, and Kofi watching the programming. Fans were literally trying to hijack the booking to show suport for the wrestler they perceived as being overlooked.

It doesn't just happen with anyone. Not everyone is a Daniel Bryan. But Kofi has already proven he can make that sort of connection. That's why he won the WWE title at WM, and that's why I think he'll be fine here.

[AdventureBliss]

just.........he's been with the company for 16 years. he's one of the most senior guys on the roster. and they couldn't give him a decent way to drop the belt.

Be realistic. He was a mid carder who rode a temporary upstream of fan support and won the title at Mania. He's held it thorugh to October, much longer than most thought he would hold it and lost it to Brock Lesnar on the first smackdown on Fox. It's really not a bad way to be treated.

[Jcogginsa]

Be realistic. He was a mid carder who rode a temporary upstream of fan support and won the title at Mania. He's held it thorugh to October, much longer than most thought he would hold it and lost it to Brock Lesnar on the first smackdown on Fox. It's really not a bad way to be treated.

He lost in less than 10 seconds. Saying that that's not a bad way to be treated is fucking horseshit

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Be realistic. He was a mid carder who rode a temporary upstream of fan support and won the title at Mania. He's held it thorugh to October, much longer than most thought he would hold it and lost it to Brock Lesnar on the first smackdown on Fox. It's really not a bad way to be treated.

Lets put it this way , they spent months building Kofi Kingston towards a main event run and World Champion at Wrestlemania. They then spent months after he won and making people buy into that as champion. Then the 1st night on a major network and trying to show this is a company with new stars like Kofi ; they bury his fucking ass in a squash match to a part timer.

Yes , this is bad. This is not good at all. It makes the months they spent wasted on someone and all that work was pissed away. Just to do Brock as champion (which has gotten old ...very old) again. Brock Lesnar didn't need the title , and if he did get it they could have had Kofi look like a great champion who loses by distraction. Instead people are talking about how Kofi looked bad etc.

[wjowski]

Be realistic. He was a mid carder who rode a temporary upstream of fan support and won the title at Mania. He's held it thorugh to October, much longer than most thought he would hold it and lost it to Brock Lesnar on the first smackdown on Fox. It's really not a bad way to be treated.

He got tossed aside so another MMA has-been can can collect a paycheck, it's a shitty way to treat someone who busted his ass like Kofi did.

[master of read]

Be realistic. He was a mid carder who rode a temporary upstream of fan support and won the title at Mania. He's held it thorugh to October, much longer than most thought he would hold it and lost it to Brock Lesnar on the first smackdown on Fox. It's really not a bad way to be treated.

brock dropped the belt to seth rollins this year. twice. and the second time, he dropped the belt to an injured seth. so how does it seem like a "not a bad way" to be treated when you get in less offense than a man with crush ribs? as we saw with riddle/cole this week, there are ways to look strong in defeat. this was not one of them.

[master of read]

No one cared Asuka lost? Where were you when it happened? Just this thread alone there were pages of pissed off folk. My other wrestling circles were pissed about Asuka dropping the title. Having the Smackdown title added nothing to the main-event and Asuka and some other woman lost a prominent spot at mania because of it. Asuka were heartbroken seeing her regulated to the battle royale and then forming a tag team with Kairi that lead to nothing.

yeah, i'm calling bullshit on that too. asuka's entire run was to build up that main event for WM. ronda helped her win the belt, her beating becking set up her entering the rumble so she could win it, and she dropped the belt to charlotte just to add another belt to the main event.

i and many many others were pissed that asuka never got the treatment she deserved during that run.

[steve2275]

sounds like raw was better than smackdown live this week

http://www.wowe.com/superheroes time

[HUTHAIFA]

sounds like raw was better than smackdown live this week

http://www.wowe.com/superheroes time

The only thing they had in common was people getting upset about a Black guy getting screwed

[steve2275]

The only thing they had in common was people getting upset about a Black guy getting screwed

are you here all week?

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[XPac]

He lost in less than 10 seconds. Saying that that's not a bad way to be treated is fucking horseshit

Honestly, I'll wager 99% of the wrestlers in the lockeroom would have been happy to swap places with Kofi last night if it meant winning the WWE title at Wrestlemania and holding the belt for the better part of the year.

Yeah, it sucks he got squashed but really, he can probably ride the fan support for what happened for another couple months. It was hardly best case scenario, but he'll be fine.

[steve2275]