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[BigLbo]

I think this underscores my point better.

FTR could drag a good match out of anyone.

Omega/Page had great big matches but nothing really memorable past that.

Hence why I think #2-10 are pretty even IMHO but FTR was the top of the class. They could work a paper bag.

And the Bucks sucked this year. :P

i've always held your opinion in high regard but i just don't see it with those guys.

i thought the match they had with butcher and blade proved the opposite, average team had an average match. actually a little disappointing for a debut. i just can't find anything interesting about them in a time when there are so many interesting teams out there.

[Immortal Weapon]

I personally think FTR is the best team in wrestling. I can't think of another team that's mastered tag wrestling like they have.

I thought the match with Butcher and Blade was the best match those guys had in AEW. Only FTR can get that out of a team like them.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Speaking of tag teams , in a surprise I never knew ...in the Pro Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame ....the Steiner Brothers aren't in it. Brian Lash (Cornette's co-host) brought up in a podcast discussing Rick Steiner that he would have voted the Steiner's in that since they aren't. Even Cornette was surprised .

This comes on the heels that Kenny Omega was voted into that. Which didn't please Jim but Lash was more respectful as he thinks it was too soon for Omega. That he needed to do more work in America and AEW before he gets that nod.


But yeah ...the Steiner's aren't in that. Just insane to think about and this was an impactful team back in late 80's/early 90's. They were one of the best of that era then.

[BigLbo]

I personally think FTR is the best team in wrestling. I can't think of another team that's mastered tag wrestling like they have.

I thought the match with Butcher and Blade was the best match those guys had in AEW. Only FTR can get that out of a team like them.

i have to ask what was better than average about that match because i definitely missed it.

also anybody know the contract status of joe doering??

[Kal-El Summers]

If Joe is showing up on Impact without any real fanfare, then he's probably on a pay-per-appearance deal.

[CentralPower]

Good episode of "Smackdown" on 11/20. Minimal theatrics, and at least some of what was there at least highlighted what is good in wrestling.

New Day's opening was a welcome surprise, and led in to a good 4-way tag match. The worst parts were more a question of some wrestlers being outshone by others than anything else.

The Streets Prophets almost make me less unhappy about Lucha House Party going away.

As for Smackdown's resident Luchadore family...that angle continues. (I know that it is wrong to say this, but the angle is ruining matches that I might like.)

And, it looks like Rollins is staying heel. I really thought that WWE would be flipping him face before his kid is born. I have no real preference, but I was expecting it.

If only WWE could have given Sasha Banks the same treatment, rather than flipping her to face. For a moment, a glorious moment, Sasha was a bad guy while taunting Asuka. Then, she was clobbered from behind by a homunculus that seems to exist in twisted mockery of all that Sasha once was.

I am liking the Roman/Uso stuff much more than I want to, which mirrors my general thinking about WWE of late.

[titanfan]

New Day vs. Street Prophets was an A+.

Sasha vs. Asuka also very good.

I admit I laughed at the end of the Women's Survivor Series match. It was clever.

[Punisher007]

The Men’s Match was, whatever. I’m just not a fan of “clean sweeps” in SS matches in general TBF.

Street Profits vs. New Day and Sami vs. Lashley were both really fun.

Sasha vs. Asuka was awesome. They’re both so great.

Bianca, Liv, and Peyton were the highlights of the women’s SS match.

Drew vs. Roman was badass. They had their rolls mixed up in the past. Face Drew vs. Heel Roman is SO MUCH cooler.

[marshal88]

now that drew is over , i suppose the next challenger for reigns will be daniel bryan followed by a buildup to the rock at mania. smackdown has hardly any credible challenger to reigns , they need to build stars up quickly.

[Jcogginsa]

I wouldn't be surprised if they did Reigns vs Misterio

[Punisher007]

Or Reigns vs. Bryan.

Or Reigns vs. KO.

[marshal88]

they will need to build ko up to be a credible challenger , ko can't even defeat a minion of reigns, how to challenge. at least bryan got back his loss so i should imagine he'll be served up to reigns next. lack of credible challengers will hurt the brand in the long run. big e supposely will be pushed but right now, not in the same ballpark.

raw is different , drew will likely feud with sheamus next , still have keith lee , strowman , orton , fiend and even styles and lashley can easily step up.

[Immortal Weapon]

They can feed Reigns Mysterio while challengers get built up for them. They can connect their recent family angles to bring them into conflict.

[marshal88]

rey is boring , he should just retire by now. jey vs rey with aliiyah on a pole match.lol

[titanfan]

they will need to build ko up to be a credible challenger , ko can't even defeat a minion of reigns, how to challenge. at least bryan got back his loss so i should imagine he'll be served up to reigns next. lack of credible challengers will hurt the brand in the long run. big e supposely will be pushed but right now, not in the same ballpark.

I got the impression that Reigns (and Jey) are going to get revenge at the entire remaining Smackdown team (other than Rollins) for "failing" to beat RAW.