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    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher007 View Post
    By that logic, Adam Cole should be called the NXT Men's Champion."
    He should be. Nothing wrong with that. He sure as hell isnt a heavyweight

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    It's not a needed name. If the Men's division was called that, I would agree. Either delineate both or drop the sex from the title. They could even memorialize titles like the Sammartino World Champion or the Stratus World Bantamweight.

    Switching to weight classes doesn't necessarily mean they're doing inter-gender matches. I don't think many men in the WWE would qualify for feather, fly, or bantam kayfabe. And vice versa. Kayfabe.

    I really think they're just looking at turning the women's titles into WWE World Bantamweight, WWE World Featherweight to go along with the other titles. While women traditionally fight at the weight in WWE, you do open a story if you want to have a Spike or Marko Stunt take a run. Kind of like how they presented the IC title a few times, "Traditionally held by men, women like Chyna have held the title."

    The women want to be on the same level as men and not treated as second or being minimized.

    They don't need the word women in the title. It's 2020. We can see it's 2 women duking it out. It's superfluous at this point.
    so can men go after the title since it's not gonna be a "women's" title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Do you want to go to work and be recognized as Employee of the Month or Woman's Employee of the Month?

    And Becky was the loudest voice for this change.
    Lol. There are no women's divisions at my job. There isn't a 205 or tag team division either.

    Pro Wrestling is simulated combat sports, and in non scripted combat sports. Designation are based on gender and weight class.

    Getting rid of the Divas title made sense. That's a silly name for a fighter.

    A women's championship match headlined WrestleMania. Erasure of identity doesn't mean equality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTHAIFA View Post
    He should be. Nothing wrong with that. He sure as hell isnt a heavyweight
    I've always been a fan of feds having more, inclusive weightclasses (Heavy, Junior, Light, Cruizer, etc.) or just not having them.

    MY preference is no weight classes in a fed.
    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    so can men go after the title since it's not gonna be a "women's" title?
    In theory but I really do think this change is more about giving the current women's titles more gravitas.
    Quote Originally Posted by HUTHAIFA View Post
    Lol. There are no women's divisions at my job. There isn't a 205 or tag team division either.

    Pro Wrestling is simulated combat sports, and in non scripted combat sports. Designation are based on gender and weight class.

    Getting rid of the Divas title made sense. That's a silly name for a fighter.

    A women's championship match headlined WrestleMania. Erasure of identity doesn't mean equality.
    Point taken.

    I do think if they called the Men's Division ... Men's, this would be moot.

    I also think, as I stated earlier in this post, it's more about gravitas.

    The World Heavyweight Champion sounds pretty cool. So does the World Bantamweight Champion. I think that's what Becky is pushing for.

    To put it in comic book terms, Invisible Girl is pretty diminutive when Sue is a woman.

    I think that's the angle. Agree or not, some women find being gendered ... annoying to say the least.
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    As long as it doesn't mean regular intergender wrestlling matches, I don't care what they call the belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    As long as it doesn't mean regular intergender wrestlling matches, I don't care what they call the belts.
    This.

    I don't think that's the driver here, either. Or the reason behind the proposed changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    As long as it doesn't mean regular intergender wrestlling matches, I don't care what they call the belts.
    While I care, I 100% agree on no intergender wrestling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    It's not a needed name. If the Men's division was called that, I would agree. Either delineate both or drop the sex from the title. They could even memorialize titles like the Sammartino World Champion or the Stratus World Bantamweight.

    Switching to weight classes doesn't necessarily mean they're doing inter-gender matches. I don't think many men in the WWE would qualify for feather, fly, or bantam kayfabe. And vice versa. Kayfabe.

    I really think they're just looking at turning the women's titles into WWE World Bantamweight, WWE World Featherweight to go along with the other titles. While women traditionally fight at the weight in WWE, you do open a story if you want to have a Spike or Marko Stunt take a run. Kind of like how they presented the IC title a few times, "Traditionally held by men, women like Chyna have held the title."

    The women want to be on the same level as men and not treated as second or being minimized.

    They don't need the word women in the title. It's 2020. We can see it's 2 women duking it out. It's superfluous at this point.
    It will cause needlessly confusion because you have two different titles with the same name.

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    Right, it will cause confusion. I want to know what it's about. The title Woman world champion is pretty fine, or something like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    It's not a needed name. If the Men's division was called that, I would agree. Either delineate both or drop the sex from the title. They could even memorialize titles like the Sammartino World Champion or the Stratus World Bantamweight.

    Switching to weight classes doesn't necessarily mean they're doing inter-gender matches. I don't think many men in the WWE would qualify for feather, fly, or bantam kayfabe. And vice versa. Kayfabe.

    I really think they're just looking at turning the women's titles into WWE World Bantamweight, WWE World Featherweight to go along with the other titles. While women traditionally fight at the weight in WWE, you do open a story if you want to have a Spike or Marko Stunt take a run. Kind of like how they presented the IC title a few times, "Traditionally held by men, women like Chyna have held the title."

    The women want to be on the same level as men and not treated as second or being minimized.

    They don't need the word women in the title. It's 2020. We can see it's 2 women duking it out. It's superfluous at this point.
    If they do the bantamweight or flyweight thing doesn’t that leave the big girls out in the cold??

    “Divas” title makes a lot more sense now, anybody can be a diva
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    I saw this coming when Becky started calling herself "The Man".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    If they do the bantamweight or flyweight thing doesn’t that leave the big girls out in the cold??

    “Divas” title makes a lot more sense now, anybody can be a diva
    They could use other weights. There's 3 titles. Bantam, feather, light. Light could be the "big" title much like the Heavy is for the men. Or have a universal title with a different name, no weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    As long as it doesn't mean regular intergender wrestlling matches, I don't care what they call the belts.
    From what I read, it actually is a way to avoid the inter-gender wrestling questions.

    I.e. there's no reason for Becky Lynch to want to go after Brock Lesnar's belt because her belt is equal in prestige and called the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titanfan View Post
    From what I read, it actually is a way to avoid the inter-gender wrestling questions.

    I.e. there's no reason for Becky Lynch to want to go after Brock Lesnar's belt because her belt is equal in prestige and called the same thing.
    But it's not.The prestige of the title or how it's book depends on the holder of the title.

    Becky reign as Raw champ is far superior to Bayley's reign as Smackdown champ. Is it because Becky is a better in ring performer? Nope.

    Booking makes a title more prestigious . Nothing else. Erasing gender doesn't help at all.

    Ask CM Punk, who got more shine during Punks historic title run.... Him or Cena?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTHAIFA View Post
    Lol. There are no women's divisions at my job. There isn't a 205 or tag team division either.

    Pro Wrestling is simulated combat sports, and in non scripted combat sports. Designation are based on gender and weight class.

    Getting rid of the Divas title made sense. That's a silly name for a fighter.

    A women's championship match headlined WrestleMania. Erasure of identity doesn't mean equality.
    these are my thoughts on this whole gender matter as well.

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