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[master of read]

my bigger question is if kenny will be in the royal rumble again this year.

[steve2275]

B/R Live is carrying AEW's Fyter Fest for free.

So you're gonna get ...

The Elite (Omega & the Young Bucks) vs. the Lucha Bros. & mystery tag partner
HARDCORE MATCH: Nakazawa vs. Jebailey
Sakazaki vs. Rose vs. Riho
Cody vs. Darby Allin
Adam Page vs. MJF vs. Jimmy Havoc vs. Jungle Boy
Christopher Daniels vs. Cima
MAIN EVENT: Jon Moxley vs. Joey Janela

Plus all the fighting game stuff ... for free!

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[BigLbo]

I didn't hear about Sami until now. Sami is an *******. Honestly, people are blowing how Cornette said about Sonny Kiss out of proportion. He's ultimate right about his point despite the language he used.

i feel pretty much the opposite. not the sami part, he is an ******* but he pretty much owns it. i don't care about the language, i think his point or lack thereof is bullshit. what needs to be "explained" about sonny?? i think everybody knows what a homosexual is.

[Immortal Weapon]

i feel pretty much the opposite. not the sami part, he is an ******* but he pretty much owns it. i don't care about the language, i think his point or lack thereof is bullshit. what needs to be "explained" about sonny?? i think everybody knows what a homosexual is.

Cornette was coming into AEW as a new fan. He didn't know if Sonny was being a character. When you have gimmick guys like orange Cassidy, Jungle Boy, and Luchasaurus all over the battle royale how he suppose to know Sonny is the guy that's being himself? He needs to be explained because no one knows who the **** he is. AEW broadcast team expected the audience to know who these guys are but that's a dumb stance to take when the company is new. Especially since the pre-show was used to sell people on the PPV.

[Immortal Weapon]

Moxley vs Omega confirmed for All Out. This proposes an interesting problem for the show. That without a doubt should be the main-event but Jericho vs Page for AEW world title is on the same show. It will be a bad look if the match that crowns your first champion doesn't close.

[XPac]

Cornette was coming into AEW as a new fan. He didn't know if Sonny was being a character. When you have gimmick guys like orange Cassidy, Jungle Boy, and Luchasaurus all over the battle royale how he suppose to know Sonny is the guy that's being himself? He needs to be explained because no one knows who the **** he is. AEW broadcast team expected the audience to know who these guys are but that's a dumb stance to take when the company is new. Especially since the pre-show was used to sell people on the PPV.

I do think the battle royal did portray the product as sort of cartoony, almost circus like. So from his perspective, I can sort of see why a new fan might go in and not necessarily get a good first impression of the product. Plus the match itself wasn't great... which in all fairness can be said for pretty much all battle royals, but that does raise the question of whether or not this is the first impression you want to give of your product.

This is the thing that new viewers on the fence about spending 50 bucks for their first PPV will judge the product on. And I think Cornette made a reasonably valid point that this perhaps did not give the product the very best first impression it could have.

[BeastieRunner]

Moxley vs Omega confirmed for All Out. This proposes an interesting problem for the show. That without a doubt should be the main-event but Jericho vs Page for AEW world title is on the same show. It will be a bad look if the match that crowns your first champion doesn't close.

The championship match will close. This ain't the WWE ...

[Immortal Weapon]

The championship match will close. This ain't the WWE ...

Such a thing isn't unique to WWE. Wrestle Kingdom 8 the intercontinental title closed the show over the world title as that was the match people wanted to see most. Honestly, Moxley vs Omega would be a bigger draw than Hangman and Jericho.

[XPac]

Such a thing isn't unique to WWE. Wrestle Kingdom 8 the intercontinental title closed the show over the world title as that was the match people wanted to see most. Honestly, Moxley vs Omega would be a bigger draw than Hangman and Jericho.

The championship match isn't always the biggest draw or the hottest match in a PPV. That's nothing we haven't seen before.

[Punisher007]

When it's the match to decide the first-ever champion, with the most well-known performer on your roster, yeah it goes on last.

[BeastieRunner]

When it's the match to decide the first-ever champion, with the most well-known performer on your roster, yeah it goes on last.

Exactly.

Mox and Omega might be IT right now, but Jericho was IT before they even wrestled in the ring.

And that's no disrespect to either right now.

I would say out of the 3, Page is the most out of place. Personally, even if it makes an all ex-WWE main event, I would've had Moxley run in at the Battle Royal and won.

[godisawesome]

Exactly.

Mox and Omega might be IT right now, but Jericho was IT before they even wrestled in the ring.

And that's no disrespect to either right now.

I would say out of the 3, Page is the most out of place. Personally, even if it makes an all ex-WWE main event, I would've had Moxley run in at the Battle Royal and won.

I think they should actually keep on mixing it up a bit between ex-WWE guys and the non-WWE talent, though they need to avoid “feeding” the non-WWE guys to their opponents so much they lose credibility. They need to show off the goods that haven’t been on display with MacMahon’s shows to make the product stand out and beef up their ranks to people who used to just watch WWE.

I mean, as an example, I didn’t know a damn thing about Juice Robinson before his match with Moxley, but the match and promos mean that I now have to pay attention to Robinson in NJPW, and of he and Mox ever clash again, I am there.

In contrast, while I have no doubt that Moxley and Jericho could make a better match than their last one in WWE, I have seen that before. Jericho giving Page a strong character opponent to frame himself against is a smart move, as is having Mox and Janella acknowledge and use their more similar elements to make a good match for fans who haven’t seen Janella before.

[BeastieRunner]

I think they should actually keep on mixing it up a bit between ex-WWE guys and the non-WWE talent, though they need to avoid “feeding” the non-WWE guys to their opponents so much they lose credibility. They need to show off the goods that haven’t been on display with MacMahon’s shows to make the product stand out and beef up their ranks to people who used to just watch WWE.

I mean, as an example, I didn’t know a damn thing about Juice Robinson before his match with Moxley, but the match and promos mean that I now have to pay attention to Robinson in NJPW, and of he and Mox ever clash again, I am there.

In contrast, while I have no doubt that Moxley and Jericho could make a better match than their last one in WWE, I have seen that before. Jericho giving Page a strong character opponent to frame himself against is a smart move, as is having Mox and Janella acknowledge and use their more similar elements to make a good match for fans who haven’t seen Janella before.

FWIW ... Juice is ex-WWE, too.

[steve2275]

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WWE's NXT Stars Want To Leave For AEW; Stephanie McMahon Is Trying To Persuade Them To Stay Blake Oestriecher

https://www.njpw1972.com/tornament/46521?showCards=1 part 1
Jon Moxley vs Shota Umino 1ST MATCH 30 MINUTES LIMIT
Shingo Takagi vs Satoshi Kojima 2ND MATCH 30 MINUTES LIMIT
Ryusuke Taguchi, Juice Robinson and Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Jay White, Chase Owens and Taiji Ishimori 4TH MATCH 30 MINUTES LIMIT
Will Ospreay takes on Dragon Lee (for The IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship) 7TH MATCH 60 MINUTES LIMIT
IWGP Jr. HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Chris Jericho vs Kazuchika Okada 9TH MATCH 60 MINUTES LIMIT IWGP HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH

[BigLbo]

Cornette was coming into AEW as a new fan.

corny came in to talk ****, we know this already.

He didn't know if Sonny was being a character. When you have gimmick guys like orange Cassidy, Jungle Boy, and Luchasaurus all over the battle royale how he suppose to know Sonny is the guy that's being himself? He needs to be explained because no one knows who the **** he is.

you should assume everybody is being themselves or are you asking them to xplain that all the other guys are working gimmicks while sonny is being himself?? did they not say his name??

When it's the match to decide the first-ever champion, with the most well-known performer on your roster, yeah it goes on last.

also i'd think this is not the blowoff match for mox & omega so maybe their match doesn't have a decisive finish and they might not want to close the show that way.