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[Jcogginsa]

If Braun's going to go over, he should Pin Bray by tipping a truck onto him

[titanfan]

If Braun's going to go over, he should Pin Bray by tipping a truck onto him

Yes, followed by the standard "Paramedics run over to check on Bray, but he's disappeared" element.

[HUTHAIFA]

Yes, followed by the standard "Paramedics run over to check on Bray, but he's disappeared" element.

Lol, I was thinking the same thing. Slaughter house match with lots of gimmick with Bray disappearing when people thought he was dead. Then Bray moves over to the next feud.

[master of read]

if the fiend loses, then that's it for him as a main event guy. i see him being a mid card attraction but not holding any belts, since he doesn't seem to care about wins and losses.

[Jcogginsa]

if the fiend loses, then that's it for him as a main event guy. i see him being a mid card attraction but not holding any belts, since he doesn't seem to care about wins and losses.

You think pinning a character using an overturned big rig would make him a midcarder?

[master of read]

You think pinning a character using an overturned big rig would make him a midcarder?

not if he loses again.

honestly, they should've taken cues from when the undertaker was first around as to how to build a inhuman monster.

[Jcogginsa]

not if he loses again.

honestly, they should've taken cues from when the undertaker was first around as to how to build a inhuman monster.

And, you think losing because someone pushes a Big Rig on top of them makes a character look weak?

[master of read]

And, you think losing because someone pushes a Big Rig on top of them makes a character look weak?

losing period after coming off a loss to someone like Goldberg would make them look weak. but if you are going with this idea that wins and losses don't matter to the fiend, then it really doesn't matter to me.

[HUTHAIFA]

not if he loses again.

honestly, they should've taken cues from when the undertaker was first around as to how to build a inhuman monster.

You are speaking as if the guy isn't over. A protected loss won't kill him. Especially, if we change the stakes of the match. If the purpose of this match, is to flip Braun.

Braun survives with the title is a lot different than Brain squashes the Fiend.

[Jcogginsa]

losing period after coming off a loss to someone like Goldberg would make them look weak. but if you are going with this idea that wins and losses don't matter to the fiend, then it really doesn't matter to me.

Getting pinned in a way that would kill a normal human and coming off it unscathed would not make him look weak.

[HUTHAIFA]

Getting pinned in a way that would kill a normal human and coming off it unscathed would not make him look weak.

He doesn't need to be pinned. You could have an ambulance match or a coffin match. He doesn't need to eat a pin to lose. Hell you can do a ladder match .

[master of read]

You are speaking as if the guy isn't over. A protected loss won't kill him. Especially, if we change the stakes of the match. If the purpose of this match, is to flip Braun.

Braun survives with the title is a lot different than Brain squashes the Fiend.

still not sure about it. but then again, we don't know what kind of match they will have.

but all this does remind me of another character that didn't seem to care about wins and losses: the berserker.

[Jcogginsa]

He doesn't need to be pinned. You could have an ambulance match or a coffin match. He doesn't need to eat a pin to lose. Hell you can do a ladder match .

Honestly I think an ambulance Match or a Coffin Match would be a more damaging loss than what I proposed, and a Ladder match wouldn't be playing to Braun's strengths.

The point of this feud should be to turn Braun match into the thing that initially got him over, a superhuman monster who revels in destruction. Hence having the blow off be a cinematic match that involves Braun going on a rampage. The stip that works best for that would be "Falls count anywhere.".

[Jcogginsa]

still not sure about it. but then again, we don't know what kind of match they will have.

but all this does remind me of another character that didn't seem to care about wins and losses: the berserker.

It's not that the Fiend doesn't care about wins and losses, it's that the Fiend defines winning as psychologically breaking his foes.

At least that's how I interpret the character, and if I were booking Bray, I'd have him cut a promo that makes that more clear.

[master of read]

It's not that the Fiend doesn't care about wins and losses, it's that the Fiend defines winning as psychologically breaking his foes.

At least that's how I interpret the character, and if I were booking Bray, I'd have him cut a promo that makes that more clear.

well unfortunately, this is the E. and they have long since stopped understanding how to book interesting characters.