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his usefulness probably expired a decade ago

He was Vince's right hand person basically. Him and Patterson was basically Vince's key guys under him who he trusted the most there. Its a big deal to see him go as either things are hurting worse than we imagined or perhaps Bisco's health isn't the best for this role anymore (he's 73 years old).

I do have to say this for Vince McMahon and all. If he is loyal to you , you will work a long time there. Gerald Brisco and his brother helped Vince get Georgia then and he seemingly was very good to them. He kept them employed for years even when he didn't have to.

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Seeing so much of Zelina and Charly on Raw is always fun.

They might be doing something interesting with Apollo finally. Protected him a lot in that US Title match. Hopefully this is leading somewhere interesting with him.

Well I'll give them credit for not having any of the three women actually lose. But when Nia's in the ring with Shayna and Asuka, sorry, I'm not buying this "dominant Nia" thing WWE. Both of the others looked far more powerful despite being smaller.

I don't see the point of Liv vs. Ruby II, it was the exact same as last week. And poor Ruby cannot buy a match these days. Honestly I didn't mind Liv's promo. It at least felt honest, especially since I don't think WWE knows what her character is supposed to be. So what's she supposed to say?

The contract segment was fantastic, both Drew and Seth were brilliant.

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Seeing so much of Zelina and Charly on Raw is always fun.

They might be doing something interesting with Apollo finally. Protected him a lot in that US Title match. Hopefully this is leading somewhere interesting with him.

Well I'll give them credit for not having any of the three women actually lose. But when Nia's in the ring with Shayna and Asuka, sorry, I'm not buying this "dominant Nia" thing WWE. Both of the others looked far more powerful despite being smaller.

I don't see the point of Liv vs. Ruby II, it was the exact same as last week. And poor Ruby cannot buy a match these days. Honestly I didn't mind Liv's promo. It at least felt honest, especially since I don't think WWE knows what her character is supposed to be. So what's she supposed to say?

The contract segment was fantastic, both Drew and Seth were brilliant.

Are they going to take Apollo out of MITB?

I'm guessing they only have limited cast to work with, thus the rematches and limited roster.

Liv's character is the standard babyface but she's young! It could work! (Countdown to her getting Natalya as a mentor before turning on her again)

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Apollo's out of MITB according to WWE.

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Cain Velasquez released

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...m-wwe-contract

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Cain Velasquez released

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...m-wwe-contract

So ends the Cain Velasquez era. One which saw the company sign him knowing he had a knee issue thinking it was minor , then pushed him on TV when he needed more time at Performance Center to learn things , later learning his knee injury was more serious and blaming him for that and finally just having Brock squash him comically.

Just Vince throwing a ton of money at someone and screwing it up from start.

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So ends the Cain Velasquez era. One which saw the company sign him knowing he had a knee issue thinking it was minor , then pushed him on TV when he needed more time at Performance Center to learn things , later learning his knee injury was more serious and blaming him for that and finally just having Brock squash him comically.

Just Vince throwing a ton of money at someone and screwing it up from start.

In hindsight if the guy was just going to be released anyways due to the pandemic, it was probably better to use him when he wasn't ready. That at least gets one high profile match out of him, even if it's a short squash. If they waited until he had surgery and he was properly trained, they probably wouldn't have gotten anything out of him at all for the money they spent on him.

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So ends the Cain Velasquez era. One which saw the company sign him knowing he had a knee issue thinking it was minor , then pushed him on TV when he needed more time at Performance Center to learn things , later learning his knee injury was more serious and blaming him for that and finally just having Brock squash him comically.

Just Vince throwing a ton of money at someone and screwing it up from start.

They ended the Kofi reign just to have Brock be the champion for Fox and to give Cain/Brock for Saudi. Now months later the match was a bust, Cain is gone, Brock made (maybe) 4 appearances on Smackdown and is now a Raw superstar.

Such is WWE.

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Yeah, they ended Kofi's reign in a squash just to do that dumpster fire of a match in SA, and never do anything else with Cain, ugh.

I've heard that AAA is interested in bringing him in potentially.

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Yeah, they ended Kofi's reign in a squash just to do that dumpster fire of a match in SA, and never do anything else with Cain, ugh.

I've heard that AAA is interested in bringing him in potentially.

They did any followup with Kofi either, who just accepted his loss and moved on.

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They did any followup with Kofi either, who just accepted his loss and moved on.

I honestly think they would have done more with Kofi's as a singles if Xavier didn't get injured though. Ultimately think WWE needed New Day in the tag division more than they needed Kofi as a singles star. But once Xavier returns, I think (hope) Kofi can potentially get more of a singles push. With no Roman Reings, and Daniel Bryan likely not ever being the top guy to carry the company ever again, there's a potental window there.

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Yeah, they ended Kofi's reign in a squash just to do that dumpster fire of a match in SA, and never do anything else with Cain, ugh.

I've heard that AAA is interested in bringing him in potentially.

He was doing AAA before he signed with WWE. It seems to be the better environment for him. Doing lucha over faux MMA will likely be more fun for him.

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I honestly think they would have done more with Kofi's as a singles if Xavier didn't get injured though. Ultimately think WWE needed New Day in the tag division more than they needed Kofi as a singles star. But once Xavier returns, I think (hope) Kofi can potentially get more of a singles push. With no Roman Reings, and Daniel Bryan likely not ever being the top guy to carry the company ever again, there's a potental window there.

Daniel Bryan has reached a point where he can do whatever he wants. He can place himself at any spot and be a natural fit. He's using his position to highlight less utilize guys at the moment. If they really need him for the main-event they will put him there.

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Daniel Bryan has reached a point where he can do whatever he wants. He can place himself at any spot and be a natural fit. He's using his position to highlight less utilize guys at the moment. If they really need him for the main-event they will put him there.

Yeah, Daniel is at the point where you can easily just throw him into a main-event feud and it wouldn't feel unnatural. Even if he takes a few pins putting new/under established guys over, he still has that credibility where you can just pop him into a title feud and he'd still be considered a threat.

And I respect the hell out of him for doing that. He knows he's nearing the end of his career and wants to try to put the business in a better spot on the way out. It's a lost art these days.

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Daniel Bryan has reached a point where he can do whatever he wants. He can place himself at any spot and be a natural fit. He's using his position to highlight less utilize guys at the moment. If they really need him for the main-event they will put him there.

I don't disagree that WWE can't put him in a main event position anytime they need him too. He's obviously a big enough star.

But he's not a guy you can really depend on to carry the company in the future anymore. He's a great short term sollution in a pinch, but not someone you can or should position as THE guy moving foreward.

Roman being gone creates sort of a void, which I'm honestly not 100% sure Braun can fill. I think someone else might need to step up to be the top face on the Smackdown brand. Again, Bryan works... but they probably want a more long term investment if they can find one. Course, now that I think about it Kofi probably isn't the most long term investment either.