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    Quote Originally Posted by steve2275 View Post
    i watched road wild 98 and currently watching 97
    could wwe do that successfully today
    A PPV at the Sturgis biker rally? They could run something there, but it wouldn't be successful. Most of the WCW wrestlers hated it from what I've read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve2275 View Post
    i watched road wild 98 and currently watching 97
    could wwe do that successfully today
    Doesn't seem worth the effort. There's no gate, and they have to invest money to set the place up, so they tale a loss as far as it being a live event.

    And if you're surrounded by bikers with rocks all over the ground, it's not exactly the safest work environment.

    It just seemed like a vanity project by Bischoff more than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    What Kenny did is not the same as what this idiot did. The nine year old Kenny wrestled didn't take a bump. The most she took was an enziguri and an airplane spin, moves she doesn't need to bump to take. The ref stopped the match when was gonna do a release German suplex.
    Omega got a pretty mean looking back breaker in there too.

    I'm sure the little girl was protected, and I'll wager Izzy is fine too. I just don't think it's a good idea for the kid or the business to involve children to this degree in actual matches.

    That kid being Brauns partner at Wrestlemania should probably be as far as you need to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Omega got a pretty mean looking back breaker in there too.

    I'm sure the little girl was protected, and I'll wager Izzy is fine too. I just don't think it's a good idea for the kid or the business to involve children to this degree in actual matches.

    That kid being Brauns partner at Wrestlemania should probably be as far as you need to go.
    As I enjoyed the Omega match I will be fine with kids in actual matches as long as they don't bump. That's the biggest no-no. Getting a few hits in, running the ropes, doing rolls, all the wrestling basics that isn't too physically demanding for their bodies to handle I'm fine with.

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    Its hard to believe people are reacting so hard to Izzy taking a bump (which I admit is hard to imagine a 12 year old taking) but we have to remember that Rey Mysterio Jr was 15 when he turned pro and was taking bumps in Mexico. Chris Candido was 14 years old taking bumps as a pro wrestler when he turned pro. Roddy Piper was also 15 as well when he turned pro and took bumps. The Hardy's were both under 18 when they worked WWF tapings as jobbers and it was joked that Chief Jay Strongbow really didn't pay attention to the fact they were being booked. (Its only later Jim Ross realized this but the company liked them and kept using them after things blew up with Italian Stallion)

    Now will Izzy continue as a wrestler and train etc ? Who knows but we have seen teenagers enter the business after training. Its a young age for sure to see happen. But we have seen people do this before.
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    Mysterio trained in Mexico and luchadors are trained to take bumps differently than anywhere else. They do a lot of rolling bumps and that's a lot less strenuous. It's how Mexico can have guys wrestling in their 50s and still be on the top of their game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    Its hard to believe people are reacting so hard to Izzy taking a bump (which I admit is hard to imagine a 12 year old taking) but we have to remember that Rey Mysterio Jr was 15 when he turned pro and was taking bumps in Mexico. Chris Candido was 14 years old taking bumps as a pro wrestler when he turned pro. Roddy Piper was also 15 as well when he turned pro and took bumps. The Hardy's were both under 18 when they worked WWF tapings as jobbers and it was joked that Chief Jay Strongbow really didn't pay attention to the fact they were being booked. (Its only later Jim Ross realized this but the company liked them and kept using them after things blew up with Italian Stallion)

    Now will Izzy continue as a wrestler and train etc ? Who knows but we have seen teenagers enter the business after training. Its a young age for sure to see happen. But we have seen people do this before.
    14-15 is at least high school (Which is still kinda young). But a 12 year old is still elementary school. I would hope Piper and Candid wouldn't be taking bumps when they were 12. If they were, I wouldn't condone that either honestly
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    anyone knows if there in anyway to watch all in, on the ps4. Like maybe ring of honor or someone has an official app for the ps4?
    because otherwise only way I think would be using the browser of the ps4.

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    sorry darth i cant help ya there
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    Its hard to believe people are reacting so hard to Izzy taking a bump (which I admit is hard to imagine a 12 year old taking) but we have to remember that Rey Mysterio Jr was 15 when he turned pro and was taking bumps in Mexico. Chris Candido was 14 years old taking bumps as a pro wrestler when he turned pro. Roddy Piper was also 15 as well when he turned pro and took bumps. The Hardy's were both under 18 when they worked WWF tapings as jobbers and it was joked that Chief Jay Strongbow really didn't pay attention to the fact they were being booked. (Its only later Jim Ross realized this but the company liked them and kept using them after things blew up with Italian Stallion)

    Now will Izzy continue as a wrestler and train etc ? Who knows but we have seen teenagers enter the business after training. Its a young age for sure to see happen. But we have seen people do this before.
    I'd be more concerned with underage kids training at a registered sex offenders school

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    For the shield, this makes perfect sense and was entirely in character. Last time they reunited, the first thing they did was triple team Braun and put him through a table. As faces. And that was just for the heck of it. This time there was actually a good reason for it.
    1st braun was a bastard of a heel at the time 2nd that planted the seed that led to.......wait for it..............him turning FACE, which in a way illustrates my point.

    As for Braun seeking help ... under different circumstances I would agree. But if he's trying to cash in mitb and the shield are acting as blockers, then forming an alliance specifically with the 2 guys Dean and Seth were feuding with anyways makes sense.
    braun as a monster character doesn't need alliances, last time he formed an alliance with other heels he beat them up proving so. this type of **** is why RAW is so lacking for main event heels not named steph & hhh.

    More than anything it creates a credible threat for the shield, which is what is needed. Hopefully it can help elevate Drew in the process.
    you know, they might not need that if they didn't put the shield back together.

    As far as a Braun heel turn ... you can argue he was acting like a heel the entire feud with KO, as technically KO didn't actually do anything to deserve it. I wonder if that feud wasn't designed for both to flip. But we'll see. Either way, it seems to be working well enough. The fans, even in bizarro world, reacted to Braun's turn the way they needed to. And the shield seems to be well received too, with Seth and Dean still able to their own this thus far. So far so good.
    no. people want to cheer braun, they want to boo roman. it's so simple and RAW needs a needs a top heel so bad, it wrote itself for roman to turn heel once he got the title especially if you look at the weeks leading up to the title win.
    seth and dean could reform the shield with james ellsworth and they'd still be well received.

    it all feels forced just to try and make roman the face they want him to be, and that's a sick & tired feeling at this point.

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    and the 2 out of 3 falls match for the IWGP world heavyweight championship between omega and okada(blond hair)...at least the first fall showing how you are suppose to catch your flying opponent
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    1st braun was a bastard of a heel at the time 2nd that planted the seed that led to.......wait for it..............him turning FACE, which in a way illustrates my point.



    braun as a monster character doesn't need alliances, last time he formed an alliance with other heels he beat them up proving so. this type of **** is why RAW is so lacking for main event heels not named steph & hhh.



    you know, they might not need that if they didn't put the shield back together.



    no. people want to cheer braun, they want to boo roman. it's so simple and RAW needs a needs a top heel so bad, it wrote itself for roman to turn heel once he got the title especially if you look at the weeks leading up to the title win.
    seth and dean could reform the shield with james ellsworth and they'd still be well received.

    it all feels forced just to try and make roman the face they want him to be, and that's a sick & tired feeling at this point.
    He was no less of a,bastard then than he was a face. See what he did to Kevin Owens multiple times for no real reason. He'll, he's arguably worse now. Attacking Braun this time at least served a purpose.

    And Braun (who actually debuted as a monster in a stable) arguably might feel he needs a stable given he's trying to cash in MITB. The shield proved problematic here.

    As far as crowd reaction, at least on raw thry booed Braun when they were supposed to so again, it seems to be working well enough so far. We'll see what happens next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    He was no less of a,bastard then than he was a face. See what he did to Kevin Owens multiple times for no real reason. He'll, he's arguably worse now. Attacking Braun this time at least served a purpose.
    strowman who teams with children he pulls from the crowd is less of a bastard than the guy who tries to murder babyfaces if for no other reason than he targets heels, that's just how wrestling works.
    using that stupidity with owens to defend this stupidity only shows how off the mark WWE is with their heel/face roles. owens was clearly meant to be the heel.


    And Braun (who actually debuted as a monster in a stable) arguably might feel he needs a stable given he's trying to cash in MITB. The shield proved problematic here.

    As far as crowd reaction, at least on raw thry booed Braun when they were supposed to so again, it seems to be working well enough so far. We'll see what happens next week.
    they had to use 4 other guys that are very over in their roles avoid the cheering of a roman beatdown. and they didn't xactly get booed out of the building either.

    i'm sure as things play out you won't say crowd reaction doesn't matter because roman sells merch.

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