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[SUPERECWFAN1]

I'd say it goes back to them getting bought by Sinclair, an already shitty company in it's own right.

Well Sinclair bought the company in 2011 . I'd say the talent losses have played a major role in what has led ROH to this point. If you lose so many top stars each year it eventually weakens your company ROH has constantly led into a state of rebuilding the main event scene every couple years. The losses of Bucks , Cody etc didn't help and the scrambling has led to this.

[XPac]

The funny thing about ROH losing it's talent to AEW is that ROH actually helped AEW get off the ground in the first place with All In. Funny how that worked out.

[wjowski]

Well Sinclair bought the company in 2011 . I'd say the talent losses have played a major role in what has led ROH to this point. If you lose so many top stars each year it eventually weakens your company ROH has constantly led into a state of rebuilding the main event scene every couple years. The losses of Bucks , Cody etc didn't help and the scrambling has led to this.

Losing talent to bigger names and bigger paychecks is just part of the price of doing business for indy feds like RoH. This is the same company that survived the loss of CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, and many others. This should be nothing new to them.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The funny thing about ROH losing it's talent to AEW is that ROH actually helped AEW get off the ground in the first place with All In. Funny how that worked out.

Losing talent to bigger names and bigger paychecks is just part of the price of doing business for indy feds like RoH. This is the same company that survived the loss of CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, and many others. This should be nothing new to them.

Well it shouldn't as we know. But the company's decision making went off the tracks in 2018 as they decided on pushing a non-over Matt Tavern as World Champion and not the "hot guy" because he eventually could leave the company after being champion. Everything since has been a mess. They put the title on Rush , then realized he may leave as his contract expires at end of 2019 and they needed someone asap to step in so we get this move.

This past summer they should have examined the roster and put a long term booking plan down and built things. Instead it was a rush to make moves as business has went into shitter.

[HUTHAIFA]

ROH should have never allowed themselves to be a launching pad for a better financed competition. If AEW could sign Cobb,Grisham,Briscoes, and Bandido then you could just shut the door on ROH.

TNA is in a slightly better position, but if AEW could get Tessa and Cage then TNA would have to regroup.

Luckily for both companies, AEW rather get more comedybacts like the Beaver Boys....SMH.

I said awhile ago that the people most hurt by AEW would be ROH and TNA.

[XPac]

ROH should have never allowed themselves to be a launching pad for a better financed competition. If AEW could sign Cobb,Grisham,Briscoes, and Bandido then you could just shut the door on ROH.

TNA is in a slightly better position, but if AEW could get Tessa and Cage then TNA would have to regroup.

Luckily for both companies, AEW rather get more comedybacts like the Beaver Boys....SMH.

I said awhile ago that the people most hurt by AEW would be ROH and TNA.

Yeah, the saving grace for guys like ROH and Impact is that AEW fills a certain portion of it's roster with junk comedy indy guys who otherwise wouldn't be able to find their way anywhere near national TV with a 100 foot pole. And that means there's still JUST enough high profile indy talent to give ROH and Impact a viable shot. If they were more aggressive at signing main event level indy talent, Impact and ROH would be pushing up daisies by the end of the decade. And I'm sure AEW doesn't want to put anyone out of business anyways, so it works out for everyone. AEW bookers can continue to put their indy buddies on TV, and ROH can live another day.

[Immortal Weapon]

Losing talent to bigger names and bigger paychecks is just part of the price of doing business for indy feds like RoH. This is the same company that survived the loss of CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, and many others. This should be nothing new to them.

They never lost talent in drones before. The Undisputed guys left together, SCU left together, the elite left together. Now you got over unrelated talent all leaving within a similar time frame. One or two guys leaving is nothing major but they never had to deal with something akin to an exodus.

[wjowski]

They never lost talent in drones before. The Undisputed guys left together, SCU left together, the elite left together. Now you got over unrelated talent all leaving within a similar time frame. One or two guys leaving is nothing major but they never had to deal with something akin to an exodus.

If that many people are leaving that quickly then there's clearly more going on than AEW and WWE dangling paychecks over the talents' heads.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

ROH should have never allowed themselves to be a launching pad for a better financed competition. If AEW could sign Cobb,Grisham,Briscoes, and Bandido then you could just shut the door on ROH.

TNA is in a slightly better position, but if AEW could get Tessa and Cage then TNA would have to regroup.

Luckily for both companies, AEW rather get more comedybacts like the Beaver Boys....SMH.

I said awhile ago that the people most hurt by AEW would be ROH and TNA.

If that many people are leaving that quickly then there's clearly more going on than AEW and WWE dangling paychecks over the talents' heads.

"Crumble , crumble , crumble...."

Bad booking ideas , pissing off the guys with it likely leads into it. Telling a worker she won't be kept as she is battling a concussion issue after hurting herself for the company.

Its all factored in. Impact itself had to rebuild its roster as they suffered a ton of talent raided by WWE as we saw. (Samoa Joe , Bobby Roode , James Storm , ECIII) The company had to reload its main event scene as we see.

Honestly at this point Sinclair should sell the company to Anthem and just have them do a TV show to air on syndicated network they run. Then you take the talents left in both and create a viable company from it. Imagine this main event roster...


Sami Callihan
Brian Cage
Eddie Edwards
Michael Elgin
Moose
Rhyno
RVD
Bully Ray
Marty Scurll
Rush* (If you can convince him to resign)
Jay Lethal

There is a good mix of ex-ROH and ex-Impact guys to mix together here. You could have a hell of a main event scene to run. Perhaps one of the best both companies have had in years.

Also you can bring in Briscoe brothers and do programs against OVE and go from there as well.

It almost makes too much sense for Sinclair to rid themselves of this and both companies could actually merge into a stronger promotion.

[Immortal Weapon]

If that many people are leaving that quickly then there's clearly more going on than AEW and WWE dangling paychecks over the talents' heads.

There is. Joey Mercury has been airing all the company's dirty laundry since he's been fired. RoH behind the scenes is a raging forest fire. Kelly Klein situation got them some negative mainstream attention.

[Immortal Weapon]

"Crumble , crumble , crumble...."

Bad booking ideas , pissing off the guys with it likely leads into it. Telling a worker she won't be kept as she is battling a concussion issue after hurting herself for the company.

Its all factored in. Impact itself had to rebuild its roster as they suffered a ton of talent raided by WWE as we saw. (Samoa Joe , Bobby Roode , James Storm , ECIII) The company had to reload its main event scene as we see.

Honestly at this point Sinclair should sell the company to Anthem and just have them do a TV show to air on syndicated network they run. Then you take the talents left in both and create a viable company from it. Imagine this main event roster...


Sami Callihan
Brian Cage
Eddie Edwards
Michael Elgin
Moose
Rhyno
RVD
Bully Ray
Marty Scurll
Rush* (If you can convince him to resign)
Jay Lethal

There is a good mix of ex-ROH and ex-Impact guys to mix together here. You could have a hell of a main event scene to run. Perhaps one of the best both companies have had in years.

Also you can bring in Briscoe brothers and do programs against OVE and go from there as well.

It almost makes too much sense for Sinclair to rid themselves of this and both companies could actually merge into a stronger promotion.

Marty Scrull is done with RoH. He only stayed on to work Final Battle. He showed up in the NWA PPV and challenged Nick Aldis.

If Rush was renewing he wouldn't drop the title to PCO. Rush is in a position where he can go wherever he wants. AEW and WWE both have their eye on him.

[XPac]

"Crumble , crumble , crumble...."

Bad booking ideas , pissing off the guys with it likely leads into it. Telling a worker she won't be kept as she is battling a concussion issue after hurting herself for the company.

Its all factored in. Impact itself had to rebuild its roster as they suffered a ton of talent raided by WWE as we saw. (Samoa Joe , Bobby Roode , James Storm , ECIII) The company had to reload its main event scene as we see.

Honestly at this point Sinclair should sell the company to Anthem and just have them do a TV show to air on syndicated network they run. Then you take the talents left in both and create a viable company from it. Imagine this main event roster...


Sami Callihan
Brian Cage
Eddie Edwards
Michael Elgin
Moose
Rhyno
RVD
Bully Ray
Marty Scurll
Rush* (If you can convince him to resign)
Jay Lethal

There is a good mix of ex-ROH and ex-Impact guys to mix together here. You could have a hell of a main event scene to run. Perhaps one of the best both companies have had in years.

Also you can bring in Briscoe brothers and do programs against OVE and go from there as well.

It almost makes too much sense for Sinclair to rid themselves of this and both companies could actually merge into a stronger promotion.

At this point, would there be any reason for Anthem to even bother buying ROH? They already got suckered into buying Impact.Odds are they aren't going to double down.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Marty Scrull is done with RoH. He only stayed on to work Final Battle. He showed up in the NWA PPV and challenged Nick Aldis.

If Rush was renewing he wouldn't drop the title to PCO. Rush is in a position where he can go wherever he wants. AEW and WWE both have their eye on him.

There is a what if situation with both guys right now. A stronger company could likely convince them to stick around possibly.

At this point, would there be any reason for Anthem to even bother buying ROH? They already got suckered into buying Impact.Odds are they aren't going to double down.

A big reason Anthem bought Impact was the tape library to stream and overseas TV markets. They could view a ROH tape library as a fucking gold mine to pair with TNA/Impact one. Also the syndicated markets if they get Sinclair to air a program also is nice.

But a ROH and TNA/Impact tape library would make Anthem very happy to jump into getting.

[BigLbo]

ROH should have never allowed themselves to be a launching pad for a better financed competition. If AEW could sign Cobb,Grisham,Briscoes, and Bandido then you could just shut the door on ROH.

TNA is in a slightly better position, but if AEW could get Tessa and Cage then TNA would have to regroup.

Luckily for both companies, AEW rather get more comedybacts like the Beaver Boys....SMH.

I said awhile ago that the people most hurt by AEW would be ROH and TNA.

Beaver boys can actually go, especially Johnny silver.

Yeah, the saving grace for guys like ROH and Impact is that AEW fills a certain portion of it's roster with junk comedy indy guys who otherwise wouldn't be able to find their way anywhere near national TV with a 100 foot pole. And that means there's still JUST enough high profile indy talent to give ROH and Impact a viable shot. If they were more aggressive at signing main event level indy talent, Impact and ROH would be pushing up daisies by the end of the decade. And I'm sure AEW doesn't want to put anyone out of business anyways, so it works out for everyone. AEW bookers can continue to put their indy buddies on TV, and ROH can live another day.

Where did you guys get the lnfo that AEW would rather have their enhancement talents over guys like cage, Cobb, bandido etc?? Seems like bs to me.

[wjowski]

Beaver boys can actually go, especially Johnny silver.



Where did you guys get the lnfo that AEW would rather have their enhancement talents over guys like cage, Cobb, bandido etc?? Seems like bs to me.

Jim Cornette, apparently.