Last ones....
I could keep posting these but I hope you get the idea. The leader is not always in the center of the comic. Good artist will mix it up a bit and do whatever looks cool to sell books.
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Team leaders cannot always be at the forefront of team shots because that restricts the composition of panels and covers. This would be bad because artists have to draw the whole team a lot. T'Challa is at the forefront of the cover of #12 of Avengers in January. Every character on the team, including the guests, will be the focus of a cover at some point or another. That's just how it goes to get us readers more interesting images.
What about these then:
Cover placement doesn't mean much of anything. Again, only reason why I'm bring this up is due to it seeming as if this current conversation is going on longer then need be over something small. (At least to me)
Just to note T'Challa has been in the center or at least really close to it 4 out of the nine covers so far. Thats pretty much half... I have been sitting back for awhile now just wondering how this conversation is even a thing.
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Really there are a lot of reasons a particular character might be the focal point of a cover.
It COULD be because he's the team leader. Or it COULD be because that particular character is focused on in the story. Or it COULD be because that character is a cash cow, and being on the cover helps to sell books. Or it COULD be some combination of all of the above or none of the above. It's hard to say until we see the story.
Point being though that being in front doesn't necessarily mean a person is the team leader. It's not an invalid assumption to make, but doesn't happen frequently enough to also say it's not a given.
DragonsChi it's a "thing" because this is the Black Panther Appreciation thread and as such want to see Black Panther showcased as much as possible.
I've been reading comics since the early 70's so I know all about comic covers and there is no reason T'Challa couldn't have been in the center of that picture.
If you don't care, good for you, but obviously some people DO care.
Excelsior!
Daoud
No, just wanted to prove to you that there was no malice intent in the covers. Believe me if I thought they where you I would be talking about it to. Probably to the point of annoyance.
No worries.
Think my point has been made. I leave this discussion on this ... if you turn nothing into something when the time comes that something needs defending no one will listen. It's sorta like the boy who cried wolf.
I'm glad that T'Challa is being at least used decently in Avengers. His own title needs a lot of work. But on the other hand he is getting his own cartoon which none of the other Avengers are getting so I'm not really all that worried about a run of Avengers that doesn't seem like it will be one for the Avengers greats/to be remembered.
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The point of that cover is to show off the new Wakandan agents, and it includes Odin, the god of a pantheon, and Janet, founding Avenger and senior leader. If the argument is that something as arbitrary as cover placement actually matters, then you can't really ask for better than this. Isn't him being the only main Avenger on an Avengers cover good? That he's such hot stuff that the book can have a cover with just him? I'd be really happy if D-Man got more focus on a cover also featuring God.
One major difference in a lot of those folks versus what we got in Panther.
Miles starred in his own book WITHOUT Peter Parker needing to show up in it. Aside from Spider-Men and Miles's second series.
X-23 started in NYX and had her OWN mini before she took over for Daddy Logan.
Peter nor Logan nor Barry nor Clark nor Bruce nor Aquaman nor Hal nor Tony nor Steve starred in a book bearing their names and took a backseat. A backseat where their books were being used to be stealth solos for others.
Nor employing writers who HATED them.
Batman has never been a book where he takes a backseat and get badly written while Duke (and YES he was accused of this), Dick, Damian, Catwoman, Jason, Tim, Babs, Cassandra, Stephanie & Harley got the good witting.
Superman never took a backseat for any of the Supergirls, Superboys, Steel, Cliff Ellis, Val Superman, Powergirl or his WIFE.
Tony when he was not drunk or dead-took a backseat for War Machine, Riri or Doom.
All of Peter's kinfolks got ongoings or minis-they NEVER took over his book with him starring in it.
Deadpool never took a backseat to Solo, Slapstick nor Foolkiller in his OWN book.
ALL OF THEM had to stand on their own in a book bearing their NAME.
Cho Hulk, She Hulk, Spider-Women, Thunderstrike, War Machine and so on-had to stand on their OWN.
MOON GIRL had to stand on her own. Not take over an Inhuman book.
Mosaic had to stand on HIS own.