T'Challa: Black Panther Appreciation 2018

[Blind Wedjat]

Could do without Twitter suddenly hating on Black Panther because articles mention it and the Oscars in the same sentence.

Oh this will probably never stop. The thought of Black Panther even getting a nominations seems to really piss people off. Most times it's pathetically funny, but it is getting annoying.

Granted, that new "Outstanding Achievement in Popular Film" category is some bull. Apparently if a movie gets nominated for it, it automatically gets locked out of the "Best Picture" category. I guess Titanic, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Avatar, District 9, and countless others should have never gotten noms in that category then. The Oscars made a whole category to not nominate BP for Best Picture. It's a glorified participation award, and a ploy to get more ratings (which they confirmed themselves).

[Mr MajestiK]

There was the entirety of Wakanda, until Hudlin came along.

Just sayin'.

Wakanda existed before T'Challa's birth so it was already technologically advanced before his ascendance to the Throne following the death of his father, T'challa.

Hudlin's retcon made a helluva lot more sense than Lee and Kirby's "one man responsible for Wakanda's greatness" shtick.

I was actually asking about signature innovations, inventions and creations generated by T'challa as a super genius intellectual that have been acknowledged and remained consistent in the MU.

[DigiCom]

Thanks my dear friend.

I knew I could rely on you to provide a a well thought out and straightforward response.

Any time, Brother Maj. I forgot "unstable molecules" under Richards, however.

It's interesting to note that the inventions we see most often are:

Methods of transport
Artificial intelligences
Armor & costumes.

Hell, if memory serves, even Don Blake (not Thor, Blake) created an intelligent robot in the Silver Age.

[Mr MajestiK]

Any time, Brother Maj. I forgot "unstable molecules" under Richards, however.

It's interesting to note that the inventions we see most often are:

Methods of transport
Artificial intelligences
Armor & costumes.

Hell, if memory serves, even Don Blake (not Thor, Blake) created an intelligent robot in the Silver Age.

I'd actually forgotten about the Don Blake scenario. Lol!

You strike the nail solidly on the head as regards inventions and the like generated by myriad geniuses in the MU.

It's really sad that so may supposedly dedicated BP enthusiasts fail to hold Marvel Editorial to account as regards the lack of continuity where T'Challa's creations or feats are concerned.

[Dboi654]

Apparently some people like T'Challa being the martial arts type of hero with strength and agility, hence the lack of continuity in T'Challa's creation and no fuss about it.

He does have the Skybike which pops up once in a while and has been slightly consistent.

[Cville]

I'd actually forgotten about the Don Blake scenario. Lol!

You strike the nail solidly on the head as regards inventions and the like generated by myriad geniuses in the MU.

It's really sad that so may supposedly dedicated BP enthusiasts fail to hold Marvel Editorial to account as regards the lack of continuity where T'Challa's creations or feats are concerned.

Your original post suggest there is nothing he invented that is universally known so what would enthusiast hold editorial to if there is nothing canocal?

With the exception of possibly Doom, everyone else in your list build inventions to make money. Tchalla has no need for it so he doesn't have to make things for the world to use. He can leave it to the design group.

But personal things he made are the Thrice Blessed Armor. Some gauntlets he gave Shuri in Rise. The new habit he used fighting WS. His panther themed sky bike. The "nowhere room". Shadow Physics(used to teleport himself to Galactus). One of two things he made while in Hells Kitchen.

[MindofShadow]

The issue with T'challa are in regard to signature stuff are many:


- a lot of his intelligence and tech feats are done "on the fly." Such as Thanos busting machine, a mutant gene suppressor, ect.

- a lot of his intelligence feats are prep feats

- "Wakanda" gets credit for a lot of stuff as BoG mentioned.

- retcons took away his largest tech feat as The Cool Thatguy said. Dude basically built Wakanda tech from scratch

- nothing transfers run to run to become "iconic" or "known." Hey, remmeber the technojungle? that tchalla built for funsies?

- when people like Reed, Stark, and Pym were building stuff during the early days (which is when things become iconic in the comic realm)... t'challa was busy either not having a book or being a background Avenger

- T'challa's world doesn't revolve simply around tech. All Reed does is build deus ex machina stuff. All Stark does is build armor and weapons. All pym is known for are pym particles, ultron, and slapping janet. T'challa is known for Wakanda, Vibranium, King, warrior... AND then tech/brains. You can make a whole book where T'challa doesn't build a damn thing and it works. You can't really do that for stark or reed.


But anyway, I would go with:

- He gets credit for designing his vibranium weave, which is his "signature" thing, as mentioned in Rise: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cbtqyp_2k...2Brise%2B3.JPG

- thrice blessed armor https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FRLgfyE5y...udlin%2B19.JPG

- shadow phyics and knowhere room

- life raft https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SJi2HLpvj...%2Bav%2B42.JPG

- techno jungle https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FdEBdlAYN...%2Bf4%2B53.JPG

- basically all of wakanda's advanced tech shown in the classic age pre-priest

- then he generally gets credit for the quinjet when writers remember and falcons wings but once again... that could be more "wakanda"

[Cville]

- then he generally gets credit for the quinjet when writers remember and falcons wings but once again... that could be more "wakanda"

I can't remember which issue it was, but I remember Tchalla telling Sam he had some upgrade ideas for his wings.

[MindofShadow]

If you think about it, T'challa the character has sacrificed a TON for the sake of "Wakanda." A LOT of Black Panther fans are more "Wakanda" fans than T'challa himself. Wakanda means just as much to them as T'challa. This same mentality crossed over into the movie verse as well.

Which in itself is odd. Thor the character sacrifices nothing for Asgard. Ditto for Namor and Atlantis. Ditto for Black Bolt and Attillian.


T'challa is just a unique character in various regards.

[Ezyo1000]

The issue with T'challa are in regard to signature stuff are many:


- a lot of his intelligence and tech feats are done "on the fly." Such as Thanos busting machine, a mutant gene suppressor, ect.

- a lot of his intelligence feats are prep feats

- "Wakanda" gets credit for a lot of stuff as BoG mentioned.

- retcons took away his largest tech feat as The Cool Thatguy said. Dude basically built Wakanda tech from scratch

- nothing transfers run to run to become "iconic" or "known." Hey, remmeber the technojungle? that tchalla built for funsies?

- when people like Reed, Stark, and Pym were building stuff during the early days (which is when things become iconic in the comic realm)... t'challa was busy either not having a book or being a background Avenger

- T'challa's world doesn't revolve simply around tech. All Reed does is build deus ex machina stuff. All Stark does is build armor and weapons. All pym is known for are pym particles, ultron, and slapping janet. T'challa is known for Wakanda, Vibranium, King, warrior... AND then tech/brains. You can make a whole book where T'challa doesn't build a damn thing and it works. You can't really do that for stark or reed.


But anyway, I would go with:

- He gets credit for designing his vibranium weave, which is his "signature" thing, as mentioned in Rise: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cbtqyp_2k...2Brise%2B3.JPG

- thrice blessed armor https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FRLgfyE5y...udlin%2B19.JPG

- shadow phyics and knowhere room

- life raft https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SJi2HLpvj...%2Bav%2B42.JPG

- techno jungle https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FdEBdlAYN...%2Bf4%2B53.JPG

- basically all of wakanda's advanced tech shown in the classic age pre-priest

- then he generally gets credit for the quinjet when writers remember and falcons wings but once again... that could be more "wakanda"

That's one really cool aspect of T'Challa, is that he can go from being heavily showcased as a martial arts master/warrior, to tech genius frying Thanos brain, to superhero globe trotter, to King handling political intrigue. He can be in Street level stories up to cosmic stories and nearly everything in between. As for signature stuff.

I would add Kimoyo, force push (thanks to the mcu) Dooms day Panthers abd N'Yami mothership

[Cville]

If you think about it, T'challa the character has sacrificed a TON for the sake of "Wakanda." A LOT of Black Panther fans are more "Wakanda" fans than T'challa himself. Wakanda means just as much to them as T'challa. This same mentality crossed over into the movie verse as well.

Which in itself is odd. Thor the character sacrifices nothing for Asgard. Ditto for Namor and Atlantis. Ditto for Black Bolt and Attillian.


T'challa is just a unique character in various regards.

I see it as no different than Harry Potter fans. I'm sure there are plenty who like other character and the wiziarding universe more than Harry. Some even get the Dark Mark tattoo. The BP franchise has that potential. Something for everyone. Used properly, just means more money.

[MindofShadow]

Used properly

Ain't that a bitch though haha.


Who is the "Ron" of Wakanda?

[Vic Vega]

Ain't that a bitch though haha.


Who is the "Ron" of Wakanda?

You would have to go back to the Kirby era and the Black Musketeers to get comedy relief heroes, like Ron.

I would have said Ross but he's not Wakandan.

He is the Ron of whatever Priest stories he is in, tho.

[MindofShadow]

You would have to go back to the Kirby era and the Black Musketeers to get comedy relief heroes, like Ron.

I would have said Ross but he's not Wakandan.

He is the Ron of whatever Priest stories he is in, tho.

Ron did get the girl though.

Ron is a weird character.

[DigiCom]

Ain't that a bitch though haha.


Who is the "Ron" of Wakanda?

Zuri, probably. He's loyal, a little bit dim, and has an appetite like no other.