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    Uncanny X-Men #171 Jul 1983
    "Rogue" Guest-starring Binary.
    The Alley.
    Storm greets her new subjects, and commands them not to attack the "surface dwellers" any longer.
    As she leaves Callisto - weak enough that she can barely stand - intercepts her.
    They exchange unpleasantries and Storm tells Sunder to put his mistress back to bed.
    Nightcrawler notes that Storm is going out of her way to make an enemy of Callisto, to which Storm responds they were moments from the instant they met.
    Nightcrawler is troubled about Storm's shifting personality.

    Anchorage.
    Madelyne Pryor wakes up from a nightmare, and Scott comes running.
    After she calms down she tells Scott about the 747 crash only she walked away from.
    She gives the date as September 1, 1980 - and Scott is shocked to realize that is the exact day Jean Grey died!

    Massachusetts.
    Carol Danvers finishes a visit to her folks. However, she's setting her folks on edge and she feels empty.
    She knows they're her parents and that she's supposed to care for them, but she doesn't - those feelings were stolen by Rogue.
    She concludes there is no place for her on Earth - Binary's place is among the stars!

    Xavier's.
    Kitty is frantically searching her room for her computer disks with her homework on them, and blaming the New Mutants (X-Babies) for stealing or misplacing them.
    Her roommate Illyana makes fun of her when she finally finds them under her keyboard.

    In the Danger Room, Charles is running a gym setting to work on his leg muscles.
    Both he and Lilandra remain mystified as to why he cannot walk in his new cloned body;
    since his paraplegic condition was caused by his legs being crushed and not genetic, his legs should be perfectly functional!

    In the kitchen, Colossus is pondering a cookbook when Professor X psychically tells him they have a visitor.
    Because he used Peter's codename, he knows there might be trouble, and he shifts into his armored form as he opens the door to discover... Rogue?

    Professor X's study.
    We discover Professor X cannot read her mind. She tells them that her powers are out of control,
    that permanently absorbing Carol's powers was an accident, and that she needs help.
    The X-Men are suspicious, and eventually Professor X asks them to leave so he can talk to Rogue in private without all the hostility.
    The X-Men resolve to vent their frustrations in the danger room.

    Despite it being Kitty who wanted to hit something, she and Illyana end up in the control booth.
    Illyana picks out the program, and when Kitty asks what it is Illyana tells her its a surprise.
    However, when the program comes up Belasco, even Illyana is briefly surprised before flipping out.
    As if possessed, she draws her Soulsword for the FIRST time from nowhere and attacks Kitty.
    Kitty phases, but the Soulsword still cuts her! Kitty disarms her, and Illyana comes to her senses - crying out "I remembered!".
    The other X-Men arrive in the control booth and Kitty hides the full nature of the incident, waving it off as an accident for Illyana's sake.

    Later, Ororo's Attic.
    She notices her plants are parched and starts a rainstorm to water them.
    However, while she has an angst-ridden internal monologue she loses control of her storm and is reminded only by the sound of thunder.
    She clears the clouds, but the plants have already been ruined!
    Professor X contacts her telepathically, and she responds by hurling a dagger through his thought-image!

    Professor X's study.
    Charles has decided to admit Rogue to both the school and as a probationary X-Men member.
    Storm objects - as leader of the X-Men she feels she has a say, and is unwilling to take on a member who might betray them!

    At that moment, Binary lands outside the X-Mansion and enters. After a moment of peace we suddenly see Rogue flying through the roof,

    getting knocked clear into orbit! Rogue comes back for more and Binary gives it to her.

    But then Colossus holds Binary down and breaks up the fight.
    Professor X explains that Rogue is under his protection as of now, and Binary complains.
    It is Storm who tells Binary that Rogue is now the newest X-Man.
    A puzzled Rogue doesn't even know why Binary has it in for her, until Binary shifts to her human (looking) form!

    Rogue speaks Carol's name under her breath. Carol tells Rogue that she now has the power to destroy her.
    Storm tells Professor X that if Rogue stays, she goes - and Nightcrawler says they all will.
    Professor X talks the X-Men through the impasse - Carol concedes understanding but not approval, and leaves in a huff.
    Storm, however, is also uncertain and goes to take a walk to decide whether she will stay or leave. She realizes, either way, that she will no longer be the woman she was.

    Story by Chris Claremont. Art by Walter Simonson and Bob Wiacek.

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    It says "guest starring Binary". That is not quite correct. Carol/Binary was a semi-regular part of Uncanny since Uncanny X-Men #150. Uncanny X-Men #150 and Avengers Annual #10 both came out in the same month, August of 1981.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoRogue View Post
    When Rogue had Wolverine-hair lol. I was sure the third pic was photo manipulation but I think the style is just hyper-realistic. the shadows play off the face too well


    By Dustin Weaver
    I really like this one, looks like a combo of her 2 best outfits.

    And the full skunk stripe is always a plus.

    This needs to become her new look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoRogue View Post
    lol it's a comic book message board, a little ridiculous is basically the medium's motto. Anyway, I like it, I was just gonna add a vol 2 to the old thread name. This one is more charming. : D



    See, even Rogue does it.


    Essential Rogue Reading
    Ever since I have seen this photo it's all I can think of when I see walnuts... and then just at really random moments.
    It's so hilariously weird...



    Yeah, I would never want Rogue to lose her flying brick powers... she paid a heavy price to get those. I would like for her to figure out what on earth is stopping her ability to control the absorption aspect. It's long overdue to be done and done the right way. I have faith in Kelly to handle this.
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    I feel as if, uh, little Remy would make an issue sell more than little Bruce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romy Ship View Post
    Ever since I have seen this photo it's all I can think of when I see walnuts... and then just at really random moments.
    It's so hilariously weird...

    Yeah, I would never want Rogue to lose her flying brick powers... she paid a heavy price to get those. I would like for her to figure out what on earth is stopping her ability to control the absorption aspect. It's long overdue to be done and done the right way. I have faith in Kelly to handle this.
    First off: what comes before that (hilarious) "Ah love walnuts" scene? Girl takes her walnuts seriously. I kind of want to see this referenced at some point...Rogue putting away some groceries...one item being a huge bag of walnuts, LOL.

    I agree with Rogue needing to keep her "flying brick" powers. There is something so awesome about seeing Rogue just kick @$$. I also agree with wanting to root out the cause of her inability to control her absorption powers. Some kind of blocked out trauma would make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Noctes View Post
    First off: what comes before that (hilarious) "Ah love walnuts" scene? Girl takes her walnuts seriously. I kind of want to see this referenced at some point...Rogue putting away some groceries...one item being a huge bag of walnuts, LOL.

    I agree with Rogue needing to keep her "flying brick" powers. There is something so awesome about seeing Rogue just kick @$$. I also agree with wanting to root out the cause of her inability to control her absorption powers. Some kind of blocked out trauma would make sense.
    I mean, Jean took care of Gentle in like ten seconds, so I’m fairly certain she could fix Rogue up too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit, King of Thieves View Post
    I mean, Jean took care of Gentle in like ten seconds, so I’m fairly certain she could fix Rogue up too.
    I think it's going to be a wee bit more complicated than a session with "Jean the miracle worker". Longtime issues I think will have to be dealt with, and perhaps hidden truths that have been undisclosed for years may have to come out. Other people may have to finally have to come clean about events that took place years ago. Yes, I think it will much more complicated and a much more detailed story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeb View Post
    I think it's going to be a wee bit more complicated than a session with "Jean the miracle worker". Longtime issues I think will have to be dealt with, and perhaps hidden truths that have been undisclosed for years may have to come out. Other people may have to finally have to come clean about events that took place years ago. Yes, I think it will much more complicated and a much more detailed story.
    Oh, I’m hoping so, just saying that Jean is probably the route to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit, King of Thieves View Post
    Oh, I’m hoping so, just saying that Jean is probably the route to go.
    I agree that a telepath should probably be at least a part of the solution or at least a route she would explore first, seeing as Xavier was the solution last time. And at the moment, Jean seems like the obvious choice since no one knows about X and he seems iffy anyway. Emma's more antagonistic at the moment and was not helpful for her previously. And much as she loves Betsy, not sure that's the first person to trust in your brain? Plus if Remy is a factor, and considering all the intimate and personal moments he and Rogue have shared that are up in her head I think he would be, then Jean is the most trusted telepath.

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    I'm still wondering why Zub "baited" us with that letter from Carol in MIM#1. Nothing is revealed that we did know 35 years ago...except for the part about Carol wanting Logan to "Balance the scales". Why was there no follow-up in the story? Did Betsy's new/old/new bod take precedent? In the scene where Rogue reads the letter, 2 things stand out for me: the first is Carol's statement about "balancing the scales", the second was Rogue's emotional reaction. Looking at this I could help but think of UXM#203 dated March 1986. In the first 5 pages Rogue flashes back to her encounter with Carol on the Golden Gate Bridge and ends with Rogue thinking to herself, her face in tears, "No matter how much good Ah do, nothing will make up for what I did. Those scales, nothing will ever balance."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeb View Post
    It says "guest starring Binary". That is not quite correct. Carol/Binary was a semi-regular part of Uncanny since Uncanny X-Men #150. Uncanny X-Men #150 and Avengers Annual #10 both came out in the same month, August of 1981.
    She did not come out in many numbers, so if I think it's right, that of an uninvited star, Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romy Ship View Post
    Ever since I have seen this photo it's all I can think of when I see walnuts... and then just at really random moments.
    It's so hilariously weird...



    Yeah, I would never want Rogue to lose her flying brick powers... she paid a heavy price to get those. I would like for her to figure out what on earth is stopping her ability to control the absorption aspect. It's long overdue to be done and done the right way. I have faith in Kelly to handle this.
    I'm sure Kelly will address this, and in the right way, if you look at an interview she mentioned that the lack of control and Rogue, probably, is that she came to a very high level of control and power very quickly, and without understanding how it happened, I mean, in a few words, that we strive to gradually discover and develop the different sub products of their powers of absorption.

    I think it will give you control, but it will be little by little, like a trial and error, and only in the long term will you have as precise a control as we saw in XML, that personally while she can turn on and off the absorption, and explore more his mental abilities, to make pisquicos scans and that, initially with that will be according XD. Because of channeling multiple powers at the same time and getting a Deux Ex Mchina, when the situation warrants it, that Rogue has already explored it since its creation.

    Then the rest of the things that we saw in Legacy will come, and everything else we know can do and has not yet developed) for example recanalize powers absorbed in the past, absorb and damage from a distance by means of a beam of lightning. energy among other things).

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    I do want it with control, and the level of control that she had in XML can come little by little over the years, and with practice and a lot of effort, but what if the power on and off of her power is something you should have soon, and not use a necklace.

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    I think there may have been a bit of foreshadowing. They don't have the rings yet. Bling! Volunteered something and then there was the conversation with Beast. He stated why they haven't minaturized the technology but he never said that he wouldn't attempt... What if those plot points are going to be merged? Just a thought. Also fixing Rogue's powers would be great but that's a big clout subject. Look at the last two that were given permission to do and undo that. Carey and Remender; and they were both wrapped up in their own arcs (well Remender attached it at the end of big arc). Does KT have the juice to undo it? I hope so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit, King of Thieves View Post
    I mean, Jean took care of Gentle in like ten seconds, so I’m fairly certain she could fix Rogue up too.
    The powers of Rogue are much more complicated than those of Gentle, much more, in fact they are quite complex for any telepath including Xavier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Noctes View Post
    First off: what comes before that (hilarious) "Ah love walnuts" scene? Girl takes her walnuts seriously. I kind of want to see this referenced at some point...Rogue putting away some groceries...one item being a huge bag of walnuts, LOL.

    I agree with Rogue needing to keep her "flying brick" powers. There is something so awesome about seeing Rogue just kick @$$. I also agree with wanting to root out the cause of her inability to control her absorption powers. Some kind of blocked out trauma would make sense.
    Some blistered trauma can be the explanation, because the power of Rogue really is not broken, whenever Rogue was being controlled by someone else, the absorption was under control, it was not something uncontrollable as was thought.

    The first time was when Carol took control of the Rogue body, and was able to touch Psylocke without leaving her in a coma.

    Then vimso in RogueandGambit, that Rogue when she was being mentally influenced by the shadow king, had her powers of absorption under the control she wanted.

    The latter was written by Kelly, who may be on that path, to take Rogue to control again.

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