Cassandra Cain: Batgirl, Black Bat, Orphan Appreciation 2018

[Arctic Cyclist]

I dont recall Shiva's race ever being specified. Infact during the O'Neal years she was drawn as more Indian than anything.
I get the first argument but the second one is hokey as hell.
There is no evidence confirming Shiva as Chinese beyond typical stereotypes which imo is more insulting.

I was referencing Cassandra's Batgirl run, which did establish that she was part Chinese. Personally, I find almost every aspect of Lady Shiva an offensive stereotype starting with her name and the interpretation of a popular and actively worshipped god, but that's just me. As a devout Hindu housemate of mine pointed out: members of Abrahamic religions have been doing worse for ages and at least they got the Thuggee as being non Hindu right.

Brenda the Barista was the first one to discuss with Cass her Chinese looks in the Bludhaven arc. Unlike Shiva, Cass was always depicted as being Chinese in appearance. It's one of the reasons she was sent to Hong Kong. Her early stories starting in No Man's Land characters regularly discussed that not only was Cass Chinese, but everyone assumed that Cain had bought her or stolen her from an orphanage. Up until the decision to retcon Shiva never having children and making her Cassandra's mother, you're absolutely right that Lady Shiva was some sort of miscellaneous Eurasian ethnicity. Batgirl, and later Birds of Prey, made her a Chinese American.

[adrikito]

About Birds of Prey Cass:

"In the new film, Robbie, Winstead, and Smollett-Bell team up to protect Cain’s character when she comes across a diamond belonging to McGregor’s Black Mask, a kingpin in Gotham City’s criminal underworld," reads the Hollywood trade's description of the movie.

https://www.newsarama.com/42732-grey...le-report.html

[Jackalope89]

About Birds of Prey Cass:

"In the new film, Robbie, Winstead, and Smollett-Bell team up to protect Cain’s character when she comes across a diamond belonging to McGregor’s Black Mask, a kingpin in Gotham City’s criminal underworld," reads the Hollywood trade's description of the movie.

https://www.newsarama.com/42732-grey...le-report.html

So, Cass in name only, huh? *sigh*
And why is HARLEY in the Birds of Prey movie!? What about Babs!?

[Konja7]

So, Cass in name only, huh? *sigh*
And why is HARLEY in the Birds of Prey movie!? What about Babs!?

It's a weird choice that she would be Cass in name only.

I mean Cass character and background could work even without her connection wirh Batman.

[Jackalope89]

It's a weird choice that she would be Cass in name only.

I mean Cass character and background could work even without her connection wirh Batman.

Agreed. And her taking up the Batgirl mantle only needs Babs there for it. Who is missing.

[Konja7]

Agreed. And her taking up the Batgirl mantle only needs Babs there for it. Who is missing.

To be fair, they wouldn't use Barbara, because they're still working on the current situation with Batman and the Batfamily. Unfortunately, Barbara as Batgirl (or even Oracle) background and story is too connected to Batman.

This also probably means they don't plan to create a connection of Cassandra with Batman (or Batgirl). Otherwise, they would not use Cassandra in this movie.

[The Cool Thatguy]

About Birds of Prey Cass:

"In the new film, Robbie, Winstead, and Smollett-Bell team up to protect Cain’s character when she comes across a diamond belonging to McGregor’s Black Mask, a kingpin in Gotham City’s criminal underworld," reads the Hollywood trade's description of the movie.

https://www.newsarama.com/42732-grey...le-report.html

Really hope that there's more that they're keeping from us.

I mean hell, they could have used Spoiler, if that's all she's there for.

[brer rabbit]

They found an actress for Cass.
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/b...ff-1203028727/

[Restingvoice]

Well, she's a skillful martial artist assassin, not bullet or bombproof, but it does sound like she's a thief.
Need more context.
What is Harley's role in this? Black Mask's hired gun?

[Armor of God]

That's whats got everyone scratching their heads, Huntress is supposed to be Black Mask's hit woman not Harley.

[Frontier]

They found an actress for Cass.
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/b...ff-1203028727/

I'm kind of surprised they seem to be going this young with her (considering what I've seen of the girl on Google), but I guess they weren't kidding about her being a kid in this.

[Punisher007]

After they did it with X-23 in Logan, I'm not surprised.

[Aahz]

I don't think that this movie will be particularly comic book accurate.
And if you will go into that movie expecting to see the comic book version of these characters, you will be probably disappointed.

[Jackalope89]

Cass when she found out about her role in the film.

[godisawesome]

I always thought that Cassandra Cain would make the transition to more media via being a walking action scene.

Really hope they're not just using a name for a cute little damsel in distress.