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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    You read it because its good. Which is the only reason anyone should read anything. I get what you're saying and where you're coming from, I truly do, and we both want the same things from DC. But when the publisher puts out a quality book and you don't read it because of the mistakes they made in the past you're just shooting yourself in the foot. You're telling them that there's no point to trying, because you've already made up your mind and DC can't change it or prove themselves.

    If you want quality books with a diverse cast, you need to support the good titles DC puts out with a diverse cast. I get where you're coming from man, I really do. But your anger is blinding you. We all have plenty of reason to be pissed off at the comics industry about these topics and the treatment a lot of characters have gotten. But if you condemn every book DC puts out, you'll never get the thing that we all want.
    DC's own ANTICS condemn every book. Not the fans.
    I never said DC can't prove themselves. My stance is every time they do prove themselves-they decide to go back to what chased fans off in the first place.

    And yes, that includes Sideways. If you dont? Why would DC give a damn about trying again?
    Maybe DC needs to give DAMN by looking at their neighbor.

    Ms Marvel, Riri, Moon Girl, Squirrel Girl, Wasp, Spider-Gwen, Riri Williams, Carol Danvers & Jane Foster say HI. On Amazon Kindle these ladies OUTSELL every DC title not named Heroes in Crisis or Doomsday.
    The fact the Spider-Man name can be SHARED by Peter Parker, Miguel O'Hara, Miles Morales and even a PIG and produce 1000+ solo issues with Peter, 75+ with Miles & 100+ with Miguel. Not to mention some MOVIE.

    With not one book TRASHING each other.

    Heck we have even has an ASIAN SPider-Man with a TV SHOW. No one got confused.

    Why is that an issue HERE??? Along with the Green Lantern franchise. Where the majority of fans don't care who is number one.

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    I wanted Wally West to play a HUGE ROLE IN DOOMSDAY CLOCK given he was the one that tried to warn the heroes of the manipulations of Dr. Manhattan, but given how DC is treating the character, it seems that will not be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkcrusade25 View Post
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    This cover, right after Batman : Damned #2 where the Dark Knight rapes and kills . . .
    The Who did what now?

    If someone told me a year ago that Batman does that and Wally west is a murderer I would’ve thought they were trolls. What a wild time to be alive
    I thought that Batman story wasn't necessarily a canon / in continuity deal.

    (Aren't those BlackLine books normally out of continuity unless DC specifies otherwise, like with Johns' upcoming Three Jokers limited series?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denirac View Post
    Oh and dont forget Bendis had Clark and the League leave Zod in the Phantom Zone to die at the hand of Zaar and his Army
    It's Zod. It's a bit surprising that Clark didn't kill the guy himself, since that's usually what happens. >shrug<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    Denirac did you ever watch the 90s Flash? If you haven’t I think you would really like it. It’s still one of my favorite DC series.
    I've actually been alternating between re watching Smallville and the 90s Flash show. lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    Yep! By the way I responded to your question about the flash comic in the previous page. But I am down to Shazam as my only DC book.
    So still down to one DC book. Just switched them.

    For myself, there are only one or two books I'm actually getting and enjoying. JLD and Hawkman. But honestly, with the incredibly disgusting way DC is treating my favorite character currently, I kinda feel "dirty" ,(for lack of a better term), buying any of their stuff and giving them my money.
    My name is Wally West. I"m the fastest man alive. I"m the Flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    I thought that Batman story wasn't necessarily a canon / in continuity deal.

    (Aren't those BlackLine books normally out of continuity unless DC specifies otherwise, like with Johns' upcoming Three Jokers limited series?)
    It is out of continuity and not canon but still. Having Batman rape and kill someone, even in an alternate story, still feels wrong and muddles the character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    It is out of continuity and not canon but still. Having Batman rape and kill someone, even in an alternate story, still feels wrong and muddles the character.
    Wrong Top Quote there but 100% agree on the sentiment, Damned is making The Batman Who Laughs seem like an idealised portrayal
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    I've actually been alternating between re watching Smallville and the 90s Flash show. lol.



    So still down to one DC book. Just switched them.

    For myself, there are only one or two books I'm actually getting and enjoying. JLD and Hawkman. But honestly, with the incredibly disgusting way DC is treating my favorite character currently, I kinda feel "dirty" ,(for lack of a better term), buying any of their stuff and giving them my money.
    Nice! Lol
    Yep! Johns Shazam was a much needed breath of fresh air! The first issue was light hearted and fun, as a Shazam book should be. Highly recommend! It’s nice to have one of my favorite characters return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denirac View Post
    Wrong Top Quote there but 100% agree on the sentiment, Damned is making The Batman Who Laughs seem like an idealised portrayal
    Whoops. My bad. Fixed it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    Nice! Lol
    Yep! Johns Shazam was a much needed breath of fresh air! The first issue was light hearted and fun, as a Shazam book should be. Highly recommend! It’s nice to have one of my favorite characters return.
    I checked it out. It was ok but the kids kinda got on my nerves.
    I know how you feel though. I was so hyped when they brought back Hawkman recently. It's a great feeling.
    My name is Wally West. I"m the fastest man alive. I"m the Flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BohemiaDrinker View Post
    Oh, you guys!

    But I don't presume to speak for eveyone. I just happen to have a good memory and a little bit of attitude. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    The attitude makes for enjoyable posts and the knowledge makes you learn something. Good combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    Well I guess now people know what Emerald Twilight was to Hal fans.

    On a serious note, I highly doubt Wally would truly be the killer. It's shock value for the sake of shock value.
    Doesn't HiC already feel like shock value for the sake of shock value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by byrd156 View Post
    Doesn't HiC already feel like shock value for the sake of shock value?
    Yes it does.
    Thinking about it, other than the artwork there hasn't been a damn thing I've enjoyed about this story.
    Three issues worth of my money ($22) is enough I think.
    Hopefully, someone in the next 12 months comes aboard and erases all this crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by married guy View Post
    Yes it does.
    Thinking about it, other than the artwork there hasn't been a damn thing I've enjoyed about this story.
    Three issues worth of my money ($22) is enough I think.
    Hopefully, someone in the next 12 months comes aboard and erases all this crap.
    In a vacuum the scenes with Wally and his kids are nice, but they're really fucking undermined by the actual story its in. It's just literally showing us how good that stuff can be but lol it's all fake and Wally's dead(or worse, if rumors are to be believed), get fucked for liking it!

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    Guess I'm sticking to my own personal headcanons a little while longer then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byrd156 View Post
    Doesn't HiC already feel like shock value for the sake of shock value?
    Quote Originally Posted by married guy View Post
    Yes it does.
    Thinking about it, other than the artwork there hasn't been a damn thing I've enjoyed about this story.
    Three issues worth of my money ($22) is enough I think.
    Hopefully, someone in the next 12 months comes aboard and erases all this crap.
    I mean it’s pretty much just torture porn........hell I can get that for free from the internet.
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