Wally West: Flash Appreciation 2018

[MajorHoy]

. . . Then when we finally get Wally West back, first it's in his Kid Flash costume. Then he gets shunted off to Titans and AGAIN, doesn't appear in the Flash book.
Then he gets killed, revived, gets a pacemaker, loses his wife AND his kids, then AGAIN gets shunted off to another title.

Had he EVER had back his wife & kids in a regular continuity story ever since Flashpoint?
(If not, the order in which you place your complaints should be revised.)

[WallyWestFlash]

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[married guy]

Had he EVER had back his wife & kids in a regular continuity story ever since Flashpoint?
(If not, the order in which you place your complaints should be revised.)

His kids? No.
Linda was reintroduced, but didn't know who he was. (Which considering the lengths Waid went to reinforcing she was/is his lightning rod pissed me off no end)

My point being, where did the joy go? Wally had his fair share of crap, but he was always aware he was living his dream.
Now? He's been reduced to a brooding, moping, cowardly, impulsive character who no longer resembles the Wally I've read for over 30 years.

[Buried Alien]

His kids? No.
Linda was reintroduced, but didn't know who he was. (Which considering the lengths Waid went to reinforcing she was/is his lightning rod pissed me off no end)

My point being, where did the joy go? Wally had his fair share of crap, but he was always aware he was living his dream.
Now? He's been reduced to a brooding, moping, cowardly, impulsive character who no longer resembles the Wally I've read for over 30 years.

I don't know where "cowardly" comes from because it hasn't registered with me at all, but some adversity doesn't hurt a character. Wally would become boring and stale if all he ever did was win, win, win all the time.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Rend20]

I don't know where "cowardly" comes from because it hasn't registered with me at all, but some adversity doesn't hurt a character.

Perhaps from Priest having Wally run away from fighting Deathstroke because he was scared during the Lazarus Contract? Priest was clearly propping up his guy, but he did double down on it at Wally's expense.

Wally would become boring and stale if all he ever did was win, win, win all the time.

I think the thing is Wally hasn't really won anything since coming back.

His entire stint with the Titans has been actively portrayed as the team being a complete failure which diminishes whatever minor victories he had such as with Abra Kadabra. I don't mind adversity, but that honestly seems to be all his character has these days. It would just be nice if they would let the character breathe for a bit instead of one terrible thing happening after another with nothing positive to look forward to in the future.

[Frontier]

His entire stint with the Titans has been actively portrayed as the team being a complete failure which diminishes whatever minor victories he had such as with Abra Kadabra. I don't mind adversity, but that honestly seems to be all his character has these days. It would just be nice if they would let the character breathe for a bit instead of one terrible thing happening after another with nothing positive to look forward to in the future.

Man, when did being a Flash become so depressing ?

Maybe that's why we need Jay and Bart back...

[Buried Alien]

Perhaps from Priest having Wally run away from fighting Deathstroke because he was scared during the Lazarus Contract? Priest was clearly propping up his guy, but he did double down on it at Wally's expense.



I think the thing is Wally hasn't really won anything since coming back.

His entire stint with the Titans has been actively portrayed as the team being a complete failure which diminishes whatever minor victories he had such as with Abra Kadabra. I don't mind adversity, but that honestly seems to be all his character has these days. It would just be nice if they would let the character breathe for a bit instead of one terrible thing happening after another with nothing positive to look forward to in the future.

Let me tell you about this dude named Barry Allen from 1979 until 2009...

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Kyer]

Had he EVER had back his wife & kids in a regular continuity story ever since Flashpoint?
(If not, the order in which you place your complaints should be revised.)

His kids? No.
Linda was reintroduced, but didn't know who he was....

No, married guy had it right the first time. Wally lost first Linda Park his wife of many, happy years. He was just working through this when he recently was reminded just before Flash War that he also had two kids. So now he knows he's lost a wife and kids.

Cowardly was the Deathstroke thing. One of Wally's first acts was facing Vandal Savage. Yet in in the Titans xover he runs away from Deathstroke. Oy. (Then again it bugged me no end that when Wally and Superman finally get to meet again they colored Wally's eyes bright blue. What the heck, DC? Does nobody do research over there?)

[Kyer]

Let me tell you about this dude named Barry Allen from 1979 until 2009...

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Yes; and that stunk too. Every horrible twist DC has done with a knife to the ribs of DC character fans (hello, Ralph & Sue, hello, Blue Beetle, hello, quite a few Titan members, Roy's daughter. Tim Drake's dad.... you get the picture. They all stunk to high heaven. DC has become Dystopian Comics. I saw light starting to peek out of the darkness with the onset of Rebirth, but now the dark clouds are growing again. It has me worried. I hated being without my favorite superheroes from (at least!) 2011 on. I miss early 2009 when I was still ignorant about what was going on in comics having only old Flash and JLA books to go by for the 'modern' scene. It's reached the point I wish I could go back in time and tell my younger self "for the love of Pete, woman, do NOT watch that JLU cartoon show! Go outside or something! Anything else but fall in love again with superheroes. Trust me on this."

Man, when did being a Flash become so depressing ?

Maybe that's why we need Jay and Bart back...

Another reason to be morose. We are STILL waiting for Jay! Bart is back (I think. Honestly, at this point I'm not sure because...) where he is exactly, I don't know because I think I saw one or two scenes with him and then I've found nuth'n.

[Kyer]

In the interest in seeing some Wally West: Flash Appriecation in the thread again:

I'm reading that the Justice League of America: Sanctuary trade was a dud, but for Flash fans there was a nice story featuring Wally working with Wonder Woman. But I can't find a single picture of this other than the Sanctuary trade cover. Anyone have and can donate some great scene or two? The only story I recall highlighting these two also featured Zoom and Cheetah and it was not... it was not my cup of Velocity 9.

[Jekyll]

Man, when did being a Flash become so depressing ?

Maybe that's why we need Jay and Bart back...

That would be nice, but alas I don’t see anything happening or developing anytime soon. It seems DC doesn’t want any new books that aren’t Bat related.

[Sam]

Man, when did being a Flash become so depressing ?

Maybe that's why we need Jay and Bart back...

Bart is back. We just don't know where is going to end up yet.

[married guy]

Bart is back. We just don't know where is going to end up yet.

But he's not going to be making an appearance anywhere anytime soon.
Certainly not in the Flash title.

You'd think Wally would be kinda high on Bart's first port of calls wouldn't you?
Or at the very least he'd run straight to his grandma Iris!

No Jay, no Max, no Jesse, no Kon, Tim or Cassie either.
Where the hell is Bart Allen???

[Eto]

NOT happy with the fact that Tom King will be writing him in HiC. Uurgh. Get ready for depressed Wally...

[Eto]

Man, when did being a Flash become so depressing ?

Maybe that's why we need Jay and Bart back...

Yep, now more than ever!