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    Man, U15 must have just been... sitting empty for a long-ass time. I mean, Beerus is over 75,000,000 years old, so... U18, as the first universe created, would be even older than that. Presumably, U15's creation wasn't too long after U18's, given that they're paired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Still too high.

    IIRC, life in U15 was created less than 15,000 years ago.
    Doxal age is now 11,000 years and the evolution timeline between Newtarians and their evolutionary descendants the Toadians and Replitas has been shorten to 10,000 years. so U15 was create less than 15,000 years ago that would mean the evolutionary time for species to evolved into another species would be very short . much shorter than what it usually would take.

    which means things U15 would have had evolved at a fast pace . well fast to how long evolution normally takes.

    Toadian and Replita evolutionary timeline

    less than 15,000 years ago life in U15 was created

    12,000 years ago Newtarians walk on Qacriea

    11,000 years ago Doxal is born.

    10,000 years ago Newtarians begin their evolution into two separate species the Toadians and the Replitas due to rapid changes in environmental conditions of Qacriea's environments.

    4,000 years ago the Toadians and Replitas the evolutionary descendants of the Newtarians walk Qacriea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrous Bird of Qin, Ou Ki View Post
    Man, U15 must have just been... sitting empty for a long-ass time. I mean, Beerus is over 75,000,000 years old, so... U18, as the first universe created, would be even older than that. Presumably, U15's creation wasn't too long after U18's, given that they're paired.
    Maybe Beerus was taking a big ol' nap.

    I'll leave it to Cleric to crunch the numbers, though it seems to be clear that the creators spent a lot more time on the other universes, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampagen View Post
    Maybe Beerus was taking a big ol' nap.

    I'll leave it to Cleric to crunch the numbers, though it seems to be clear that the creators spent a lot more time on the other universes, lol.
    Could be that U15 is the Australia of the universes. A dangerous places where everything is trying to kill the descendants of criminals dumped there from other universes.

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    That... actually seems plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrous Bird of Qin, Ou Ki View Post
    Could be that U15 is the Australia of the universes. A dangerous places where everything is trying to kill the descendants of criminals dumped there from other universes.

    ...

    That... actually seems plausible.
    I have been speculating through Ochazuke that the First - and perhaps the Threshlings in turn if they're some sort of magically delicious offshoot - are malignant Universal Migrants. Though there's no real means to procure proof of this at this point in the story.

    That said, regardless, from this point on I'm going to read Neva's lines with an Aussie accent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampagen View Post
    Maybe Beerus was taking a big ol' nap.

    I'll leave it to Cleric to crunch the numbers, though it seems to be clear that the creators spent a lot more time on the other universes, lol.
    That's the breakdown be gave me when he specified Ishtar's age. Trust me, she's not supposed to be only 15,000.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Environmental changes can lead to a faster evolutionary process

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0902134937.htm


    it seems that the pace of a Evolutionary change ( the time it takes a species to evolved) is depend on generation time and changes in environmental conditions.
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    You know, how is it I've never had Held use the Unicorn version of Wolf Fang Fist? ....Unicorn Gores the Dragon...?

    I mean, maybe because Held could actually summon a Unicorn to just cut out the middle man, but yeah.

    I guess I know what tech Held's getting next.

    He's going to throw ki unicorns at you, to go with the magical(?) one that attacks you.

    Hell, maybe the magical one can also throw ki unicorns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    That's the breakdown be gave me when he specified Ishtar's age. Trust me, she's not supposed to be only 15,000.
    I do recall you dropped a figure in the billions some time ago, although that was around the great kava water makeout so perhaps it was partially in jest.

    Mm, GM has the right of way, yet this is a something of a discrepancy. Where it affects the plans for the greater plot I'm not sure, but I'm willing to roll with whatever, personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by bruceleegreyhulk View Post
    Environmental changes can lead to a faster evolutionary process

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0902134937.htm


    it seems that the pace of a Evolutionary change ( the time it takes a species to evolved) is depend on generation time and changes in environmental conditions.
    I'm not certain how epigenetics figures into this discussion, unless this pertains specifically to Praxat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampagen View Post
    I do recall you dropped a figure in the billions some time ago, although that was around the great kava water makeout so perhaps it was partially in jest.

    Mm, GM has the right of way, yet this is a something of a discrepancy. Where it affects the plans for the greater plot I'm not sure, but I'm willing to roll with whatever, personally.
    I'm fine rolling with it myself, and actually have a pretty damn good plan where that's concerned. That said though the billions figure was an error on my part. Idea was that she's a few million given how long she spent watching civilizations rise and fall.

    But the timeline is basically:

    Oni (15,000) > Mortal Life (15,000) > Earth, specifically (~13,000)
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    I'm fine rolling with it myself, and actually have a pretty damn good plan where that's concerned. That said though the billions figure was an error on my part. Idea was that she's a few million given how long she spent watching civilizations rise and fall.

    But the timeline is basically:

    Oni (15,000) > Mortal Life (15,000) > Earth, specifically (~13,000)
    So all Oni except Ishtar are 15K years old?
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    I dunno where Sasheem even fits in on that since he was formed from some sort of primordial chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingofPie View Post
    I dunno where Sasheem even fits in on that since he was formed from some sort of primordial chaos.
    Calling it now.

    To become perfect Zeno-Sama, he had to discard of his wickedness, something something, it became Sasheem, explaining why he was so simplistic in the beginning, much like Zeno himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampagen View Post
    I do recall you dropped a figure in the billions some time ago, although that was around the great kava water makeout so perhaps it was partially in jest.

    Mm, GM has the right of way, yet this is a something of a discrepancy. Where it affects the plans for the greater plot I'm not sure, but I'm willing to roll with whatever, personally.



    I'm not certain how epigenetics figures into this discussion, unless this pertains specifically to Praxat?
    it only has to do with her species Toadians as a whole . since both her species and the Replitas are evolved from other species called Newtarians. since life in U15 was create less than 15,000 years ago. this evolutionary process it take the Newtarians to evolved into those two separate species would have to take place at fast rate. in order for this to occur rapid changes in environmental conditions on planet like Qacriea have to take place.

    which has to lead to rapid mutations . this also means that on a Toadians and Replitas are closely relate to each other and share a lot of the same DNA, but not the gene regulatory mechanisms.
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    Hmm........


    Seems like I need to hammer out the timeline better. Part of it was my confusion over Asha’rah having had Arthur (Earth’s first Guardian) helping her during the rebellion. Since humanity can’t be millions of years old, I sort of figured it must have happened only about ten to twenty thousand years ago.

    But then that may not work either due to that making the universe fairly young, and U18 is supposed to be very old.


    Hmm, give me some hell here, folks. In the main time line of DBZ, when was Majin Buu created and the like?
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