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    I’ll have updated PL’s in a bit.
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    Between Cell Form 2 and SSJ Vegeta that fought him

    Inanna, Parsley, Sarada

    Cell Form 2

    Rex

    Between Android 16 and Cell Form 2

    Blizzar, Sasheem

    Android 16

    Ochazuke, Zaofan, Nevalinna, Held, Tasure, Erosa

    Kamiciolo/Android 17

    Totoma, Cthylla, Dash, Avoca

    Android 18

    Meagan, Hops, Etrina, Shochu, Praxat

    SSJ Vegeta, Android Saga

    Karine

    SSJ Goku, Freiza Saga

    Chuan, Aleka

    Final Form Freiza

    Jack, Nunlil, Seri, Adam, Cyannna, Slak, Samson Balon, Evangeline

    Freiza Third Form

    Kai, Anula, Bekon

    Freiza Second Form

    Midori, Shiro, Chou, Althena



    All rankings are subject to change, of course. This is just a quick thrown up list. Thoughts and alterations are always welcome. If I missed anyone give me a heads up and Iíll add them where you think they should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell’s Brigade View Post
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    Waiting on Inanna, hoss.
    Will get to it today, sorry for the wait
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell’s Brigade View Post
    Between Cell Form 2 and SSJ Vegeta that fought him

    Inanna

    Cell Form 2

    Parsley, Sarada, Rex

    Between Android 16 and Cell Form 2

    Blizzar, Sasheem

    Android 16

    Ochazuke, Zaofan, Nevalinna, Held

    Kamiciolo/Android 17

    Totoma, Tasure, Erosa, Cthylla, Dash

    Android 18

    Meagan, Hops, Etrina, Shochu

    SSJ Vegeta, Android Saga

    Avoca, Karine, Praxat

    SSJ Goku, Freiza Saga

    Chuan, Aleka

    Final Form Freiza

    Jack, Nunlil, Seri, Adam, Cyannna, Slak, Samson Balon, Evangeline

    Freiza Third Form

    Kai, Anula, Bekon

    Freiza Second Form

    Midori, Shiro, Chou, Althena



    All rankings are subject to change, of course. This is just a quick thrown up list. Thoughts and alterations are always welcome. If I missed anyone give me a heads up and I’ll add them where you think they should be.
    I'm guessing this includes things like transformations (SSJ, etc)?
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    I'm guessing this includes things like transformations (SSJ, etc)?
    Yes, highest individual potential, excluding temp boosts (KaioKen, etc....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell’s Brigade View Post
    Yes, highest individual potential, excluding temp boosts (KaioKen, etc....)
    Ah alright. Makes a bit more sense then
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    I figured Sarada/Parsley would be a little stronger. They spent the year training with Perfect Cell level beings and didn't die.

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    I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but I'm a bit surprised Dash is as high as she is. If she was looking at the chart, she'd be looking at it in disblief, not convinced she's as strong as maybe she really is.

    I'm not complaining, I'll take it, just saying that Dash doesn't see herself at that level.

    Does this mean she can spar with Totoma?
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    Yeah I'm surprised to why can't Praxat be on the same level as Dash? Yeah I always thought that Praxat and Dash should be equal. I mean Praxat was able to fight well against Dash during their time in the RoSaT . Praxat did use 60% elastic energy during her time in the RoSaT. However The sheer pressure exerted by the elastic energy output. Nearly shattered her right arm the first time she attempt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceleegreyhulk View Post
    Yeah I'm surprised to why can't Praxat be on the same level as Dash? Yeah I always thought that Praxat and Dash should be equal. I mean Praxat was able to fight well against Dash during their time in the RoSaT . Praxat did use 60% elastic energy during her time in the RoSaT. However The sheer pressure exerted by the elastic energy output. Nearly shattered her right arm the first time she attempt it.
    Honestly, I always got the impression Dash was Praxat's "sempai" so to speak. It always seemed like she was coming to Dash for advice, for tips in technique, and although there was an atmosphere of mutual respect, it always felt like Dash was the more experienced of the two of them, even if they train together often. I mean, Dash was just giving her tips on her fighting style as Praxat was struggling to integrate it, if I read correctly.

    Dash is having her own struggles, but I consistently got the impression she's the more experienced and is at least slightly stronger.

    In that sense, I'm not particularly surprised Dash is stronger at this point. Admittedly, that's a matter for Cleric, Tami, and You, but I'm just going off of what I've seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miburo View Post
    Honestly, I always got the impression Dash was Praxat's "sempai" so to speak. It always seemed like she was coming to Dash for advice, for tips in technique, and although there was an atmosphere of mutual respect, it always felt like Dash was the more experienced of the two of them, even if they train together often. I mean, Dash was just giving her tips on her fighting style as Praxat was struggling to integrate it, if I read correctly.

    Dash is having her own struggles, but I consistently got the impression she's the more experienced and is at least slightly stronger.

    In that sense, I'm not particularly surprised Dash is stronger at this point. Admittedly, that's a matter for Cleric, Tami, and You, but I'm just going off of what I've seen.
    Dash has been training since she was a child, and has trained under Reimi and Meagan, as well as her time as a Guardian Apprentice and her three years of intense self-training.

    I can see Dash at least a little higher than Praxat, but I won't comment more than that.
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    Yeah, I'm fine with this. Chuan'll just have to work his butt off to survive when the big fight happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Dash has been training since she was a child, and has trained under Reimi and Meagan, as well as her time as a Guardian Apprentice and her three years of intense self-training.

    I can see Dash at least a little higher than Praxat, but I won't comment more than that.
    I still say that Praxat could give Dash a good match up. Oh and Praxat also had three years of intense self-training. Even if they not equals I still think Praxat is close to Dash in power. Really want Praxat and Dash to be equals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell’s Brigade View Post
    Between Cell Form 2 and SSJ Vegeta that fought him

    Inanna

    Cell Form 2

    Parsley, Sarada, Rex

    Between Android 16 and Cell Form 2

    Blizzar, Sasheem

    Android 16

    Ochazuke, Zaofan, Nevalinna, Held

    Kamiciolo/Android 17

    Totoma, Tasure, Erosa, Cthylla, Dash

    Android 18

    Meagan, Hops, Etrina, Shochu

    SSJ Vegeta, Android Saga

    Avoca, Karine, Praxat

    SSJ Goku, Freiza Saga

    Chuan, Aleka

    Final Form Freiza

    Jack, Nunlil, Seri, Adam, Cyannna, Slak, Samson Balon, Evangeline

    Freiza Third Form

    Kai, Anula, Bekon

    Freiza Second Form

    Midori, Shiro, Chou, Althena



    All rankings are subject to change, of course. This is just a quick thrown up list. Thoughts and alterations are always welcome. If I missed anyone give me a heads up and I’ll add them where you think they should be.
    Hm. Alright, my thoughts.

    Right now, Sarada's "stuck" in the Tundra sidestory..

    Against a guy that's... perfect cell+ level. At the level above, she'd be dead weight. I would argue that bumping her up to "close enough to be a threat" to Tundra's level of strength would be warranted, especially since she likely won't rejoin the main group until everyone's more or less caught up.

    Tasure & Avoca are in a similar situation. They're going up against two guys that are roughly semi-perfect cell level. Now, it's those two, so they don't necessarily need to overpower them (Avoca's, after all, the best debuffer in the group), but given that they're also not involved in the main plot and won't rejoin until the next arc, they could stand to be bumped up to A16 tier, I feel.

    Neva's placement I got no complaints with cuz I've been a lazy motherfucker in regards to her, lol.

    Totoma's fine. He's involved in the Tundra stuff and joyriding around in E Bekon's body anyway, so it's not like his normal body's capabilities matter at the moment.
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    So looking at the list now that I've got time, I'd have to say that if anything, the group in the tier below Inanna, should be bumped up to Inanna's tier.

    At base, Inanna is slightly behind Parsley. She can trade evenly, but ultimately gets edged out, because Parsley counters her magic/is a more experienced fighter.

    Inanna's transformation (the one given by Lampton) is something of an unknown though; you've told me a bit... but outside of it potentially killing her as a side effect of just transforming, I don't know anything else about it.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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