Who truly owns the Night?
Count Dracula or his literary offspring (via Sherlock Holmes and Zorro) the Batman?
Who is more famous in real life?
Who is a bigger part of pop culture?
And how do you measure such things?
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08-08-2018, 05:35 PM #1Legendary Member
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More Famous IRL: Bruce Wayne or Vlad Dracula?
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08-09-2018, 11:16 AM #2Astonishing Member
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Well, the thread title is Dracula or Bruce Wayne. Between those 2 names, it's Dracula without a doubt. More people on this planet would be familiar with the name "Dracula" than they would with "Bruce Wayne."
But if it's Dracula vs Batman? I have to believe Batman has more name recognition, or at least it'd be difficult to find someone who has never heard of either. I read somewhere that Superman's 'S' is the most recognizable symbol on Earth next to the Christian cross...if that is true, then I would say Batman is known by more people than Dracula.
Dracula > Bruce Wayne
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08-09-2018, 11:20 AM #3Astonishing Member
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With pop culture, it depends on the time peiod. 50 years ago they were making a lot of Dracula movies and no Batman ones. Today, Batman is everywhere & Dracula doesn't show up much.
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08-09-2018, 02:33 PM #4A Wearied Madness
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Shame, wish I could get some modern Dracula films of the same quality as the Batman stuff. The best Dracula appearances this millennium have been arguably the Hellsing anime, the animated The Batman vs Dracula movie, and the Castlevania Netflix cartoon short series. And that's just sad!
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08-09-2018, 02:51 PM #5Anyone. Anywhere.Anytime.
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Came ITT to say exactly this Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
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I wouldn't mind a remake of Bram Stoker's Dracula, I think it might work. I own the original, and love it, but a remake without Keanu's 'accent' would be great. Originally Posted by Vakanai
I was in the minority on Dracula: Untold...it wasn't high art or anything, but I quite enjoyed what they were going for."Darkseid...always hated music..."
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Bruce Wayne is no competition here, so on to Batman. He may be a contender but since his whole aesthetic borrows from a number of characters, Dracula included, I still say he edges out in the pop culture consciente due to seniority, the staying power of the whole genre to this day, the whole gothic subculture rivaling the comic afficionados and his novel being an all time classic.
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Dracula over both Bruce and Batman
Dracula is older, the archetype to almost all modern vampires to the point that people more likely never know about the traditional vampire mythologies, and yeah, Batman was influenced by his aesthetic.
The archetype for superheroes is still Superman.
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08-10-2018, 03:42 PM #9A Wearied Madness
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Although I have my problems with Bram Stoker's Dracula (Keanu Reeves, the whole Mina romance thing not in the book), but it's still one of the best (and the last great) Dracula movies, and one of my favorite films in general. And I usually give Keanu some credit if only because there's never been a really good Jonathan Harker in film. The last good (but not great) Dracula movie was Dracula 2000. Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
I liked Dracula Untold too, but it isn't a good Dracula movie. Would love a Dracula with the same powers and special effects, but more traditional evil personality intact.
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08-10-2018, 05:02 PM #10Extraordinary Member
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I don't know, but can we put all four of them together for a team-up? Originally Posted by daBronzeBomma
Interesting that each had their own vs. Dracula storyline developed, might somewhat at least speak to Dracula's pop culture renown.
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08-10-2018, 07:03 PM #11Legendary Member
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I know Batman has teamed up with Sherlock Holmes on at least one occasion... don't know about Zorro?
My guess would be, in terms of overall pop culture influence, it would go:
1. Dracula
2. Batman
3. Sherlock Holmes
4. Zorro
I think Vlad gets the nod over Bruce for one reason: look at their respective successors.
Dracula, as the first major vampire, created an entire sub-genre that owes their existence to him. Every single vampire (Lestat, Edward Cullen, Alucard, Barnabas Collins, etc) in fiction for the last 100+ years owes a HUGE debt directly to Dracula.
Can't say the exact same thing about Batman.
Now, Batman does have a MUCH stronger literary body of work over his almost 80 years than Dracula does in his 120+ years. And a much stronger, centralized presence in modern media.
It's close, but the Count has my vote.
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08-10-2018, 08:19 PM #12Incredible Member
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In 2018? Batman
One way to measure could be google search results.
Batman 421 mil
Bruce Wayne 97 mil
Drac 52 mil
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08-11-2018, 07:33 AM #13BANNED
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Batman has become a vampire but Dracula has never iirc become a vigilante haunting Transylvania as a superhero so....
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08-11-2018, 11:35 AM #14Death becomes you
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Though in the movie Dracula Untold he came close. He did have superpowers so sort of a superhero and was the champion of his people against their oppressors. Originally Posted by theoneandonly
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08-11-2018, 02:21 PM #15Legendary Member
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How many feature films in which has each character been prominent?
I gotta think Drac easily outpaces Bats here, esp in terms of number of professional actors who have portrayed him. If you count tv and stage, then I think the gap lessens, but I'm not sure.
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