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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    It is kinda hilarious at some of the... twitter complaining about "sexualizing" black widow (a sexual character at times in the source materal) when MCU dudes are throwing off shirts for the "female gaze" literally every single movie.
    Because the male gaze has been a much bigger problem in movies than the female gaze. Not that I care for these shirtless scenes, but it's not exactly an equal comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Because the male gaze has been a much bigger problem in movies than the female gaze. Not that I care for these shirtless scenes, but it's not exactly an equal comparison
    In movies overall? Absolutely.

    In the MCU? Absolutely not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Because the male gaze has been a much bigger problem in movies than the female gaze. Not that I care for these shirtless scenes, but it's not exactly an equal comparison
    I dunno, there's a LOT more male characters with shirts off then like ass or boob shots of women. Drax literally never wears a shirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    I dunno, there's a LOT more male characters with shirts off then like ass or boob shots of women. Drax literally never wears a shirt
    That sort of thing I believe was Marvel trying to equal things out. But overall in Hollywood's history, the objectification of women far outweighs men.

    And recently in Widow's movie, a lot of those shots are butt shots. So many that I made a drinking game of it while watching it with friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    In movies overall? Absolutely.

    In the MCU? Absolutely not.
    Yeah, but can you really separate one movie series from everything? Plus, the male characters were always still at the forefront, whereas the female ones were treated like side characters

    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    I dunno, there's a LOT more male characters with shirts off then like ass or boob shots of women. Drax literally never wears a shirt
    That's true, and I don't really think it's necessary. But the male characters are show as muscular and fit. None of the female characters are sexualized for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    That sort of thing I believe was Marvel trying to equal things out. But overall in Hollywood's history, the objectification of women far outweighs men.

    And recently in Widow's movie, a lot of those shots are butt shots. So many that I made a drinking game of it while watching it with friends.
    Exactly

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    I'm a personal believer in equal opportunity and gender balanced fanservice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I'm a personal believer in equal opportunity and gender balanced fanservice.
    I'd rather have none of this kind of fan service at all. Although it depends on whether the actors are ok with this kind of stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    I'd rather have none of this kind of fan service at all. Although it depends on whether the actors are ok with this kind of stuff
    I enjoy it enough within its own right but obviously what's most important is whether the performers are comfortable with it .

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    What If...? Poster Shows The Watcher Surveying the MCU's Multiverse
    https://www.cbr.com/what-if-poster-w...cu-multiverse/

    Hawkeye: Marvel Reveals Disney+ Premiere Date with a New Photo
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    Hawkeye's release date is November 24.

    Doctor Strange, Spider-Man & More Alternate Reality MCU Heroes Receive Official What If Figures
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I enjoy it enough within its own right but obviously what's most important is whether the performers are comfortable with it .
    That's right. After the recent events exposed in Hollywood in the last few years, I'd only be comfortable with it if the actors aren't pressured into it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    That's right. After the recent events exposed in Hollywood in the last few years, I'd only be comfortable with it if the actors aren't pressured into it
    Yeah, obviously no one should be forced into doing anything...although I guess there's always body doubles.

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    http://https://variety.com/2021/film...mpression=true

    Looks like Disney did ScarJo dirty on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    http://https://variety.com/2021/film...mpression=true

    Looks like Disney did ScarJo dirty on this one.
    Looks like Disney pulled a WB.

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    BREAKING Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney Over Black Widow Release

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    Your link is not working.

    Here is a link to the same news but from CNBC (one of the few sites that don't hide behind a paywall):
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/29/scar...g-release.html

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